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I'd like to propose that Jitsi be considered as the default messaging,
VoIP and webcam client for the next major Debian release (jessie).
This would mean it is installed by default in a desktop install and it
is the default handler for sip: and xmp
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On 28/03/14 22:14, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 09:49:44PM +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 07:41:50PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
>>> I can understand the ftp team's desire to sidestep any moral
>>> questions
On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> Currently, Empathy is installed by default
The default desktop is now Xfce, which doesn't use Empathy.
http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/t/tasksel/unstable_changelog
If you want GNOME to switch from Empathy to jitsi I t
On 30/03/14 11:22, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
>> Currently, Empathy is installed by default
>
> The default desktop is now Xfce, which doesn't use Empathy.
>
> http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/t/tasksel/unstable_changelog
Th
On 03/30/2014 05:04 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> ZRTP - peer to peer encryption, like PGP for VoIP. Once again,
> it has been in Jitsi for ages but is not in Empathy[7]
To me, this is the most important feature of them all, and is IMO
mandatory nowadays. But do you know if Asterisk (or other VoIP s
Hi,
Thomas Goirand:
> P.S: I don't really care which client is the default, because I find the
> concept of default app bad in itself, and I think users should be given
> the choice, and it isn't the role of a distribution to choose for its
> users. However, if we *have* to have a default, probabl
Quoting Daniel Pocock (2014-03-30 11:04:31)
> I'd like to propose that Jitsi be considered as the default messaging,
> VoIP and webcam client for the next major Debian release (jessie).
> This would mean it is installed by default in a desktop install and it
> is the default handler for sip: and
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 11:04:31AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
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> To put it simply, the Jitsi team are blazing a trail in this area and
> a Debian initiative to install Jitsi on every desktop will give them
On 30/03/14 12:29, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 03/30/2014 05:04 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> ZRTP - peer to peer encryption, like PGP for VoIP. Once again,
>> it has been in Jitsi for ages but is not in Empathy[7]
>
> To me, this is the most important feature of them all, and is IMO
> mandatory n
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On 30/03/14 12:57, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Daniel Pocock (2014-03-30 11:04:31)
>> I'd like to propose that Jitsi be considered as the default
>> messaging, VoIP and webcam client for the next major Debian
>> release (jessie). This would m
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On 03/30/2014 01:17 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 03/30/2014 02:51 AM, Jan Gloser wrote:
>
>> Otherwise if you just personally disagree with the design of
>> systemd and can't describe such a scenario, why not just migrate to
>> Gentoo or BSD?
>
+++ Thomas Goirand [2014-03-30 18:29 +0800]:
> On 03/30/2014 05:04 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
> On 03/30/2014 05:04 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> >JitMeet multi-party video conferencing solution[8] for WebRTC
> >browsers
>
> You should remove the "s" at browsers. It only supports Chrome(ium)
Quoting Wookey (2014-03-30 14:18:47)
> +++ Thomas Goirand [2014-03-30 18:29 +0800]:
>> By the way, do you know if it's easy to setup conference calls the
>> way there is with JitMeet / Hangout, but without a web browser, eg
>> directly on a VoIP software? Can Jitsi do that?
>
> Yes I'm interested
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 11:49:08AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> > If you want GNOME to switch from Empathy to jitsi I think that would
> > be a conversation that should be had with upstream, not with Debian. I
> > doubt they would be interested in it due to the Java requirement
> > though.
>
On 30/03/14 15:45, Michael Banck wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 11:49:08AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>> If you want GNOME to switch from Empathy to jitsi I think that would
>>> be a conversation that should be had with upstream, not with Debian. I
>>> doubt they would be interested
On 03/30/2014 06:55 PM, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thomas Goirand:
>> P.S: I don't really care which client is the default, because I find the
>> concept of default app bad in itself, and I think users should be given
>> the choice, and it isn't the role of a distribution to choose for its
On 03/30/2014 07:18 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> On 30/03/14 12:29, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> On 03/30/2014 05:04 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>>JitMeet multi-party video conferencing solution[8] for WebRTC
>>>browsers
>>
>> You should remove the "s" at browsers. It only supports Chrome(ium).
>
On 30/03/14 16:09, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 03/30/2014 06:55 PM, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thomas Goirand:
>>> P.S: I don't really care which client is the default, because I find the
>>> concept of default app bad in itself, and I think users should be given
>>> the choice, and it i
On Sun, 2014-03-30 at 22:09 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 03/30/2014 06:55 PM, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thomas Goirand:
> >> P.S: I don't really care which client is the default, because I find the
> >> concept of default app bad in itself, and I think users should be given
> >>
Quoting Daniel Pocock (2014-03-30 16:31:18)
> Jitsi does IM/chat too, I just didn't emphasize that so mcuh.
Please add "T" in the relevant "TAV" fields at
https://wiki.debian.org/UnifiedCommunications/ClientSoftwareComparison -
and while at it please also add info about JSCommunicator :-)
Othe
On 03/30/2014 08:02 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
> If it's been decided to continue to require package maintainers to
> provide traditional init scripts as well as systemd unit files - e.g.
> for Debian's non-Linux ports - then that benefit would be lost.
This, also, has also been discussed. The consen
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On 03/30/2014 10:57 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 03/30/2014 08:02 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> If it's been decided to continue to require package maintainers to
>> provide traditional init scripts as well as systemd unit files -
>> e.g. for Debi
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On 20/02/14 17:00, David Fifield wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 03:58:02PM +, Ximin Luo wrote:
>> - tor-pt-websocket or pt-websocket: These are unambigious but
>> inconsistent with the other Tor pluggable transport in
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On 30/03/14 16:54, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Daniel Pocock (2014-03-30 16:31:18)
>> Jitsi does IM/chat too, I just didn't emphasize that so mcuh.
>
> Please add "T" in the relevant "TAV" fields at
> https://wiki.debian.org/UnifiedCommunic
On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 07:24:15PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
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> On 30/03/14 16:54, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > Quoting Daniel Pocock (2014-03-30 16:31:18)
> >> Jitsi does IM/chat too, I just didn't emphasize that so mcuh.
> >
> > Please
* Ben Hutchings , 2014-03-30, 15:33:
Most new users don't know enough to choose.
Excuse me to say it this way, but ... NO!
I've read this too many times. You have absolutely no evidence of
that. Apart maybe if you talk about your mum, which anyway wouldn't
install
Argument from sexism?
O
Quoting Daniel Pocock (2014-03-30 19:24:15)
> On 30/03/14 16:54, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > Quoting Daniel Pocock (2014-03-30 16:31:18)
> >> Jitsi does IM/chat too, I just didn't emphasize that so mcuh.
> >
> > Please add "T" in the relevant "TAV" fields at
> > https://wiki.debian.org/UnifiedCom
Quoting Tzafrir Cohen (2014-03-30 19:15:04)
> On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 07:24:15PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> > On 30/03/14 16:54, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > > Quoting Daniel Pocock (2014-03-30 16:31:18)
> > >> Jitsi does IM/chat too, I just didn't emphasize that so mcuh.
> > >
> > > Please add
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On 30/03/14 20:53, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Tzafrir Cohen (2014-03-30 19:15:04)
>> On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 07:24:15PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>> On 30/03/14 16:54, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Daniel Pocock (2014-03-30 16:31:1
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On 30 March 2014 17:26, Marc Haber wrote:
> I find this somewhat a fair deal. If you make money from your web
> site, you should pay for the certificate.
>
>
Where do you draw the line? Does a commercial company hosting a website,
say for documentation for a commercial product count at a per prof
Thomas Goirand writes:
> On 03/30/2014 06:55 PM, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> > Thomas Goirand:
> >> P.S: […] I find the concept of default app bad in itself, and I
> >> think users should be given the choice, and it isn't the role of a
> >> distribution to choose for its users.
> >
> > Most new use
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On behalf of the community, thanks for the suggesting this Daniel! We are
currently in the process of preparing deb packages for Jitsi Videobridge
and our new conferencing app too, so maybe these would also help Debian's
users to get better Free communication.
--sent from my mobile
On 30 Mar 2014
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On Mar 31, Brian May wrote:
> On the other hand, getting back on topic, cacert.org offers you
> certificates free, and for any purpose, which is why it is much better then
> any of the other free alternatives (I only know one free alternative).
And they are about as useful as self-signed ones, as
On Mar 30, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> See above: I'm unsure Debian Developers have yet a clear view of what
> should / must be supported, and what's going to happen in this regard.
> At least, it's not clear to me.
I believe that it is pretty much obvious myself:
http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.p
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