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On 28/03/14 22:14, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 09:49:44PM +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 07:41:50PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >>> I can understand the ftp team's desire to sidestep any moral >>> questions here, but in the process I think your guidelines have >>> wound up vague and overbroad, as they suggest that as a project >>> we will never take a stand for anything but only do what's >>> safe. > >> I think you are mistaken. The statement says that before >> uploading, we should ask the ftp team for advice. Not that they >> will always deny the upload. > >> What it means, is that they don't want rigid rules where there >> are problems when we get a new member from a new country, but >> instead leave the decision to humans (the ftp team). I think >> that is very wise. > > If your interpretation is correct, then the mail from Joerg in > practice provides *no* new guidance, and the only reason the > software in question is blocked from the archive is "because the > ftp team says so". > > That's an even worse policy than how I interpreted it. > I find it relieving that when these things have to happen (as was necessary after the proposal to package some controversial content) Debian is able to discuss it and document the decision in public. While not everybody will agree with the outcome, the process of decision making and public documentation of the decision is much better than the way secret lists of blocked websites are being assembled in various countries that pretend to have free and democratic values. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTN+ELAAoJEOm1uwJp1aqDzRUQAKKz/Vbcek5zdpsERN7M8BDF culUU6a4zEDx85YCRgGngFITRf3OBLiZQAeeAqa4xpstMIDLdGv3FsNST4cvnl4D YQoVEMgjtnAj1Svc4wrVBKOFPmEMpC3I2ADKB3tfEfEkewNOA9cjqh5Wzg4k/pRt rNYD1KYI7+4K336Y1HQRnFCNN7GGoxigxF/qhkOJaJ/Xd12YDEj5V70EQF+7DC8A bpSO7n0No/oIhSY962S0cL3q54emPcTWISJVQHcWcSqL6JS5M6ju8FiSVfnr1bAQ kGVj/19RR/OvWBQ9yUzRnowGVtPEwrofxMW1tPTdxcPb56eo4F+is9sFOsTwXmdT eVFe8CicWhCXHXU23LjOgRRHAUX3vxjKf0Wa2s4LqTQvG6zpB1c7A1NutOiX6zll yJspegDhZrk/wR0H/XJ9G/HFZ90QRPbATalKqVTnGNs820dBTd4Ni9d95piXa0nz bFfnEfgywWqXBvnUmy5kxuAEIC6PdjB+HmnDvDDZadjMwo/vzwEzrFgXTXHDDs7/ Jo8nXPGSAlHLBxhcPwGcl/X6aTvzK8/2x6drVp7fwLr26Fxq9TFCO1ze/nBsc2UO VbI/jvg9w9P9Kw/vJHZC4mWY0rc4u7P2qgUxjrZaqf8vi+5IDOC9iLwA3CmKBn7D MaWtx7hPPhnDGzH7wD0O =XY1+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5337e10b.2090...@pocock.pro