Hi Jörg,
we definitely needs something like this and your suggested set of rules
seems sane.
On Sun, 05 May 2013, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> - any member of the uploading keyrings can create a PPAMAIN using a
>defined interface[1].
>
> [1] Most probably it will either be a signed mail or a signe
Hi,
Le lundi 06 mai 2013 à 09:24 +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
> How about taking the opportunity of this new release cycle to start a
> packaging
> team to organise the work on packages providing media type (MIME) support ?
>
> The mime-support package (which I maintain) is on Alioth on coll
Dear Josselin,
On Mon, 6 May 2013 18:29:40 Josselin Mouette wrote:
> shared-mime-info and desktop-file-utils are already maintained under the
> pkg-freedesktop umbrella.
I see no evidence that "desktop-file-utils" is associated with
pkg-freedesktop. There is no corresponding repository under
"pk
Le lundi 06 mai 2013 à 20:19 +1000, Dmitry Smirnov a écrit :
> Dear Josselin,
>
> On Mon, 6 May 2013 18:29:40 Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > shared-mime-info and desktop-file-utils are already maintained under the
> > pkg-freedesktop umbrella.
>
> I see no evidence that "desktop-file-utils" is asso
Scenario:
a Intel x64 (T5500) with "Wheezy i386" installed.
It's possible use the multiarch support of dpkg
to migrate to "Wheezy amd64" ?
(after installation of linux-image-amd64, libc6-amd64)
Thanks
Walter
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On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 12:03:15PM +0100, Walter Valenti wrote:
> a Intel x64 (T5500) with "Wheezy i386" installed.
> It's possible use the multiarch support of dpkg
> to migrate to "Wheezy amd64" ?
>
> (after installation of linux-image-amd64, libc6-amd64)
Migrating a live system between architec
On Mon, 6 May 2013 20:24:29 Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > I see no evidence that "desktop-file-utils" is associated with
> > pkg-freedesktop. There is no corresponding repository under
> > "pkg-freedesktop" and Maintainer field contains "Ross Burton
> > ". I've made new (first?) "desktop-file-utils"
On 2013-05-06, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
> I see, thanks. The repository layout is a bit unusual as it combines
> several packages together...
No it is not. It is very normal with svn.
> Perhaps it's a good time to separate it to its own repository?
I think it is great to have desktop-file-utils an
Hi,
now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals
for jessie. Here are some points that come into my mind right now (and
some were already discussed very recently):
* multiarch compatible binNMUs
* discarding maintainer uploaded binary packages [!arch:all]
* discarding mai
Hey.
I would like to see the following with respect to PHP and all packages
using PHP:
1) We should try to educate users not to use mod_php. From a security
POV it's rather problematic, as it runs in server context. And for
people really needing the performance, FPM should be an equally good
solut
On 2013-05-06 14:49, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals
> for jessie. Here are some points that come into my mind right now (and
> some were already discussed very recently):
>
While the ideas themselves are worthwhile, they d
On Mon, 6 May 2013 23:00:05 Sune Vuorela wrote:
> On 2013-05-06, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
> > Perhaps it's a good time to separate it to its own repository?
>
> I think it is great to have desktop-file-utils and shared-mime-info
> staying within pkg-freedesktop. They know how upstream work, and they
Hello,
2013/5/6 Christoph Anton Mitterer :
> Hey.
>
> I would like to see the following with respect to PHP and all packages
> using PHP:
[...]
Related to PHP, but more on the PEAR side, I would like to see all
PEAR packages migrated to build with pkg-php-tools (the dh way of PEAR
packages).
Mig
On 05/06/2013 08:49 AM, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
Hi,
now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals
for jessie. Here are some points that come into my mind right now (and
some were already discussed very recently):
* multiarch compatible binNMUs
* discarding maintainer up
Two more things I remember:
1) IMHO, services/daemons (e.g. apache, ejabberd, etc.) that listen per
default on the network (unless loopback only) shouldn't be started per
default, after being installed.
The usually come only with a default config which may not be hardened
enough for the local syst
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 04:08:07PM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> 1) IMHO, services/daemons (e.g. apache, ejabberd, etc.) that listen per
> default on the network (unless loopback only) shouldn't be started per
> default, after being installed.
> The usually come only with a default confi
2013/5/6 Andrey Rahmatullin :
> There is also a related thing that was discussed in the past: stop
> disabling services via /etc/default.
Modern service management systems might be better choice.
E. g. systemd or SMF :-P
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On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 12:11:23PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Charles Plessy wrote:
>
> > The fact is that Debian does not make much effort to ensure that we do not
> > distribute unredistributable files in our mirrors and installation media,
> > once
> > a package
On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 09:33:14PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 04:53:59PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > I think there's a consensus, the problem is who's going
> > to do the work for automating dropping of binaries and
> > rebuild.
>
> Not implying that I am the one do
Le Mon, May 06, 2013 at 12:24:29PM +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit :
> Le lundi 06 mai 2013 à 20:19 +1000, Dmitry Smirnov a écrit :
> >
> > On Mon, 6 May 2013 18:29:40 Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > > shared-mime-info and desktop-file-utils are already maintained under the
> > > pkg-freedesktop umbr
On 05/06/2013 09:15 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> Hey.
>
> I would like to see the following with respect to PHP and all packages
> using PHP:
> 1) We should try to educate users not to use mod_php. From a security
> POV it's rather problematic, as it runs in server context. And for
> peopl
Dear pkg-freedesktop team,
Thank you for letting me join "pkg-freedesktop" team.
I migrated old "desktop-file-utils" repository to new location:
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-freedesktop/desktop-file-utils.git
where I imported all history including missing versions and also added
On May 06, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> 1) IMHO, services/daemons (e.g. apache, ejabberd, etc.) that listen per
> default on the network (unless loopback only) shouldn't be started per
> default, after being installed.
This has been discussed over and over, I think with a clear consensus:
i
On 05/06/2013 09:29 PM, Mathieu Parent wrote:
> Related to PHP, but more on the PEAR side, I would like to see all
> PEAR packages migrated to build with pkg-php-tools (the dh way of PEAR
> packages).
Yes ! I do 100% agree with the above. This could be a release goal, IMO.
> Migrating PECL packag
On 05/05/2013 03:33 AM, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> what needs to be touched to achieve aspects of the following
> features: (Again not implying that they are all desired.)
> * Permitting source-only uploads.
While there is a consensus about dropping binaries, there is
none about permitting source-only
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On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 11:40:50PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > what needs to be touched to achieve aspects of the following
> > features: (Again not implying that they are all desired.)
> > * Permitting source-only uploads.
> While there is a consensus about dropping binaries, there is
> none
On 05/04/2013 05:10 PM, Wookey wrote:
> This is a result of maintainer's workflows never
> doing this, I presume.
Yeah! Probably git-buidpackage getting more adoption
has something to do with it too.
Thomas
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* Niels Thykier , 2013-05-06, 15:26:
now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals
for jessie. Here are some points that come into my mind right now (and
some were already discussed very recently):
While the ideas themselves are worthwhile, they do not seem to be
"releas
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Daniel Walrond
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On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 05:10:17PM +0100, Daniel Walrond wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Daniel Walrond
>
>
> * Package name: opensmtpd
> Version : 5.3.1p1
> Upstream Author : OpenBSD
> * URL : http://www.opensmtpd.org/
> * License : ISC,
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 09:49:33PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 11:40:50PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > > what needs to be touched to achieve aspects of the following
> > > features: (Again not implying that they are all desired.)
> > > * Permitting source-only up
On 05/06/2013 10:08 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> The usually come only with a default config which may not be hardened
> enough for the local system, and that short time may already be enough
> for an attacker to attack.
If the default config isn't hardened enough, fix the default config.
severity 601455 normal
thanks
Hi,
On Montag, 6. Mai 2013, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> There is also a related thing that was discussed in the past: stop
> disabling services via /etc/default.
#601455 "can't stop daemon using /etc/init.d/foo stop when disabled via
/etc/default/foo" is related to
Hi,
On Montag, 6. Mai 2013, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> While there is a consensus about dropping binaries, there is
> none about permitting source-only uploads (and I'm not in
> the favor of it myself, not because I don't trust others, but
> because I think it should be possible to add some more QA
>
Hi,
On Montag, 6. Mai 2013, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> While I won't question the need to support signed mails or commands files,
> I would like to argue for the support of a web interface as well.
how about a web interface which creates such mails/commands, which then only
need to be copied into
* Dmitry Smirnov , 2013-05-05, 12:30:
I'm quite concerned that `desktop-file-validate` utility (provided by
"desktop-file-utils" package) is checking .desktop files against
outdated specification. On some occasions such "validation" recommend
changes conflicting with the current specification (
I wonder what the plans of the MySQL maintainers are concerning MySQL vs
MariaDB. Famously, Fedora made the switch. What will happen in Debian?
What kind of transition would this mean? Would it be a drop-in
replacement like Monty is pretending, or would it be harder?
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
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> severity 601455 normal
Bug #601455 [general] can't stop daemon using /etc/init.d/foo stop when
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Bug #661496 [general] multiple, annoyingly different ways to disable an init
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Severity set to 'normal' from 'minor
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 05:42:35PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 05:10:17PM +0100, Daniel Walrond wrote:
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: wishlist
> > Owner: Daniel Walrond
> >
> >
> > * Package name: opensmtpd
> > Version : 5.3.1p1
> > Upstream Author : O
On 06/05/13 18:42, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 05:10:17PM +0100, Daniel Walrond wrote:
>> Package: wnpp
>> Severity: wishlist
>> Owner: Daniel Walrond
>>
>>
>> * Package name: opensmtpd
>> Version : 5.3.1p1
>> Upstream Author : OpenBSD
>> * URL : htt
Package: general
Severity: grave
Justification: renders package unusable
Dear Maintainer,
Gnome desktop freezes after some minutes of starting the session. The solution
is to change to another tty and restart the gdm3 server. I've noticed that it
only happens at the begining of the session but on
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 09:05:43AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>
> While I won't question the need to support signed mails or commands files,
> I would like to argue for the support of a web interface as well. The
> sheer number of operations that are possible on such repositories will
> make it
Am 06.05.2013 19:02, schrieb Thomas Goirand:
> I wonder what the plans of the MySQL maintainers are concerning MySQL vs
> MariaDB. Famously, Fedora made the switch. What will happen in Debian?
> What kind of transition would this mean? Would it be a drop-in
> replacement like Monty is pretending, o
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 19:17:47 +0200, Patrick Matthäi wrote:
> But why should it _replace_ MySQL, why not providing it as an
> alternative MySQL'ish server?
>
Because Oracle.
Cheers,
Julien
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Am 06.05.2013 19:33, schrieb Julien Cristau:
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 19:17:47 +0200, Patrick Matthäi wrote:
>
>> But why should it _replace_ MySQL, why not providing it as an
>> alternative MySQL'ish server?
>>
> Because Oracle.
That alone does not count, since it is still OSS.
As long as _MyS
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 07:39:50PM +0200, Patrick Matthäi wrote:
>
> As long as _MySQL_ maintainers are able (and want) to continue MySQL (or
It's my understanding a lot of them jumped ship.
Meh. +1 to kill MySQL for MariaDB. It's got a much better future. I see
it more like a libc changeover. W
On 2013-05-06 10:02, Thomas Goirand wrote:
I wonder what the plans of the MySQL maintainers are concerning MySQL
vs
MariaDB. Famously, Fedora made the switch. What will happen in Debian?
What kind of transition would this mean? Would it be a drop-in
replacement like Monty is pretending, or would
On 06/05/13 19:02, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> Famously, Fedora made the switch
Seems that also OpenSUSE and Arch (among others) did the switch
https://kb.askmonty.org/en/distributions-which-include-mariadb/
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hi,
Just my two 2 cent: I would like to have an virtual package
"Database", to resolve some deps. So there hasn't be a question of
what database someone have to use.
Okay, the mainproblem here is not all packages have interface for
every database, but it could solve these questions
Greetings,
Bj
On 6 May 2013 18:54, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> Meh. +1 to kill MySQL for MariaDB. It's got a much better future. I see
> it more like a libc changeover. Who cares, it's got the same interface.
> We only have things to gain (better upstream, upstream commited to real
> f/oss, new features, etc.)
P
Hello,
2013/5/6 Thomas Goirand :
> I wonder what the plans of the MySQL maintainers are concerning MySQL vs
> MariaDB. Famously, Fedora made the switch. What will happen in Debian?
> What kind of transition would this mean? Would it be a drop-in
> replacement like Monty is pretending, or would it
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 07:18:35PM +0100, Steven Ayre wrote:
> On 6 May 2013 18:54, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> > Meh. +1 to kill MySQL for MariaDB. It's got a much better future. I see
> > it more like a libc changeover. Who cares, it's got the same interface.
> > We only have things to gain (bette
2013/5/6 Steven Ayre :
> Having a policy on how such packages can coexist could then allow
> other options to also be added cleanly (MySQL Cluster, Percona, Galera
> etc).
I've done my best to package MariaDB following best practices on
Debian control files and conflict/replace rules. So I am conf
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 01:54:41PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> Meh. +1 to kill MySQL for MariaDB. It's got a much better future. I see
> it more like a libc changeover. Who cares, it's got the same interface.
> We only have things to gain (better upstream, upstream commited to real
> f/oss, ne
* Christoph Anton Mitterer , 2013-05-06, 16:08:
2) No more packages that bypass the package management system and
secure apt:
a) There are still several (typically non-free) packages which download
stuff from the web, install or at least un-tar it somwhere without
checking any integrity informa
On 2013-05-06 10:54, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 07:39:50PM +0200, Patrick Matthäi wrote:
As long as _MySQL_ maintainers are able (and want) to continue MySQL
(or
It's my understanding a lot of them jumped ship.
At the time Oracle purchased Sun, there was really only o
On 05/07/2013 03:05 AM, Clint Byrum wrote:
> We should also carefully consider what MySQL users would be faced with
> if we ever "dropped" MySQL.
This was part of my original question.
How much difference do we have for our users?
Can MariaDB be a drop-in replacement as advertized?
I'd be happy t
On 05/07/2013 01:31 AM, Clint Byrum wrote:
> I'd also like to get MySQL back in sync with Ubuntu to reduce waste
> between the two distros.
It seems there's more and more a trend of seeing these
differences increasing. :(
Thomas
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On 13203 March 1977, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>> - any member of the uploading keyrings can create a PPAMAIN using a
>>defined interface[1].
>> [1] Most probably it will either be a signed mail or a signed .commands
>> style file.
> While I won't question the need to support signed mails or
On 2013-05-07 00:52:03 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 05/06/2013 10:08 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> > The usually come only with a default config which may not be hardened
> > enough for the local system, and that short time may already be enough
> > for an attacker to attack.
> If the
On 2013-05-06 17:22:57 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On May 06, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> > 1) IMHO, services/daemons (e.g. apache, ejabberd, etc.) that listen per
> > default on the network (unless loopback only) shouldn't be started per
> > default, after being installed.
> This has been
On Lu, 06 mai 13, 12:03:15, Walter Valenti wrote:
> Scenario:
>
> a Intel x64 (T5500) with "Wheezy i386" installed.
> It's possible use the multiarch support of dpkg
> to migrate to "Wheezy amd64" ?
>
> (after installation of linux-image-amd64, libc6-amd64)
This belongs on debian-user, see
http:
As the sole driver and implementor of DEP9, I would like to see all reverse
depends of update-inetd migrate to reconf-inetd. That is, assuming inetd is
not entirely deprecated by systemd/upstart/whathaveyou by the time jessie is
released.
On a less boring note, I would like to see apt-listbugs bec
On 2013-05-06 12:32, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 05/07/2013 01:31 AM, Clint Byrum wrote:
I'd also like to get MySQL back in sync with Ubuntu to reduce waste
between the two distros.
It seems there's more and more a trend of seeing these
differences increasing. :(
This is yet another dig at Ubun
On Mon, 06 May 2013, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2013-05-06 17:22:57 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > On May 06, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> > > 1) IMHO, services/daemons (e.g. apache, ejabberd, etc.) that
> > > listen per default on the network (unless loopback only) shouldn't
> > > be starte
Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> I would like to see the following with respect to PHP and all packages
> using PHP:
> 1) We should try to educate users not to use mod_php.
If "Best Practices" such as this were documented such as on the Debian
wiki then it would go a long way to making this easy
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 04:08:07PM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> 1) IMHO, services/daemons (e.g. apache, ejabberd, etc.) that listen per
> default on the network (unless loopback only) shouldn't be started per
> default, after being installed.
May I point to /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d? As ha
Hi,
Am Montag, den 06.05.2013, 16:57 +0200 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow:
> Maybe as an intermediate and imediate step we could switch to
> uploading only arch:all debs for mixed packages. That is already
> supported by DAK and the buildds and would drop a lot of locally build
> debs.
sounds inter
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> I've done my best to package MariaDB following best practices on
> Debian control files and conflict/replace rules. So I am confident to
> say we actually already have a way how to get MySQL flavors to
> coexist. What we seem to lack is _resources_. I guess we could package
> all of Percona, Gale
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals
> for jessie. Here are some points that come into my mind right now (and
> some were already discussed very recently):
>
> * multiarch compatible binNMUs
> * disca
On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 14:59 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> > 1) We should try to educate users not to use mod_php.
> If "Best Practices" such as this were documented such as on the Debian
> wiki then it would go a long way to making this easy for users to do.
> They could then simple follow recipies to
On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 20:47 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> Do you have any concrete examples (besides flashplugin-nonfree, which is
> indeed abominable)?
I know at least of susv2/3.
I once manually went through all the packages depending on wget/curl,...
but I don't have the list anymore and would li
On Sun, 5 May 2013 10:50:09 Calvin Owens wrote:
> I encountered a similar problem in Gentoo - e2fsck 1.42.5 can't check
> read-only mounted FS with an external journal. Ted Ts'o just wrote a
> fix: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-ext4/msg38096.html
Thanks for your fantastic feedback Calvin.
So
On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 00:52 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> If the default config isn't hardened enough, fix the default config.
> Adding a supplementary step to start the service doesn't fix the
> problem anyway.
I don't think this is only a question of hardened enough of not...
simply supplying a
On Tue, 7 May 2013 03:02:02 Jakub Wilk wrote:
> * Dmitry Smirnov , 2013-05-05, 12:30:
> >I'm quite concerned that `desktop-file-validate` utility (provided by
> >"desktop-file-utils" package) is checking .desktop files against
> >outdated specification. On some occasions such "validation" recomme
+++ The Wanderer [2013-05-06 09:36 -0400]:
>
> I don't know whether it would be practical, but one thing I would like
> to see included as an explicit goal is the completion of multi-arch -dev
> support.
I think it's eminently practical.
> There is functionality provided by the old ia32-libs-dev
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 03:32:13AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 05/07/2013 01:31 AM, Clint Byrum wrote:
> > I'd also like to get MySQL back in sync with Ubuntu to reduce waste
> > between the two distros.
> It seems there's more and more a trend of seeing these
> differences increasing. :(
T
Why I vote NO for ppa in Debian,
Something that everybody loves about debian is you have everything in one
repo for stable testing or development, the use of PPA it couse things like
happens in ubuntu when u need something important you need to install it
from a PPA because is not in the repo that
On 7 May 2013 14:23, Adrian Alves wrote:
> am not saying PPA is bad just worried about not to lose the magic of
> debian who has everything in one place.
>
This is already the case. Not everything I package deserves to go into
Debian main. e.g. because it is specific to a problem I am solving an
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Brian May wrote:
> On 7 May 2013 14:23, Adrian Alves wrote:
>
>> am not saying PPA is bad just worried about not to lose the magic of
>> debian who has everything in one place.
>>
>
> This is already the case. Not everything I package deserves to go into
> Debian m
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
> now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals
> for jessie. Here are some points that come into my mind right now (and
> some were already discussed very recently):
I have a long wishlist that contains some items wh
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Adrian Alves wrote:
> well as u explain it has logic but whats happens if that never happens on
> that way? and packages that deserve to be in Debian repos never reach it
> because it never be pushed into? or how you gonna look into all the PPA's
> looking for somet
Hi,
On Mon, 06 May 2013, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Nah, the webinterface just should end up like the DAM webinterface: You
> do whatever you need, then click a button - and voila, there is
> everything ready to copy/paste into a MUA. Send with sig, done.
Why? This is just a band-aid and not what I w
On Mon, 06 May 2013, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 04:08:07PM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> > 1) IMHO, services/daemons (e.g. apache, ejabberd, etc.) that listen per
> > default on the network (unless loopback only) shouldn't be started per
> > default, after being insta
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