Bug#704124: codename 'rc-buggy' not handled correctly

2013-03-28 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Package: ftp.debian.org Severity: normal Hi, it seems that apt is handling the codename 'rc-buggy' for experimental not correctly. zobel@kvasir:~% sudo apt-get update [...] Fetched 26.4 MB in 9s (2,923 kB/s)

Re: Bug#704124: codename 'rc-buggy' not handled correctly

2013-03-28 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:02:11 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Package: ftp.debian.org > Severity: normal > > Hi, > > it seems that apt is handling the codename 'rc-buggy' for experimental > not correctly. > > zobel@kvasir:~% sudo apt-get update > [...] > Fetched 26.4 MB in 9s (2,923 kB/s)

Re: Bug#704124: codename 'rc-buggy' not handled correctly

2013-03-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 03/28/2013 11:21 AM, Julien Cristau wrote: rc-buggy is not a codename, it's a bad joke. Don't use it? I actually never noticed the pun but very much like the idea as it would be equivalent to the pun used for unstable (=sid), the pun fits perfect. Why not make "rc-buggy" the official cod

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 28/03/13 11:06, Julien Cristau wrote: > Control: severity -1 important > > I am raising this bug to critical, as it meets the definition "makes > unrelated software on the system (or the whole system) break" > No, it does not. hw will shut itself off before getting damaged. Would you provide a

Re: Bug#704124: codename 'rc-buggy' not handled correctly

2013-03-28 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 11:21:29 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:02:11 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > Putting debian-devel@l.d.o on CC for this bug report, as this change > > might have larger impact on installations, so discussing this first > > might be a good

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 03/28/2013 11:47 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: Would you provide a guarantee to all users of wheezy that you will pay for their laptop repair if this issue causes damage? > Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent > permitted by applicable law. This problem happens regu

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Martin Wuertele
* John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [2013-03-28 12:08]: > On 03/28/2013 11:47 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > >Would you provide a guarantee to all users of wheezy that you will pay > >for their laptop repair if this issue causes damage? > > > Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent

Re: Bug#704124: codename 'rc-buggy' not handled correctly

2013-03-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:56:52AM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 11:21:29 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:02:11 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > > Putting debian-devel@l.d.o on CC for this bug report, as this change > > > might h

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On 28-03-13 11:47, Daniel Pocock wrote: > On 28/03/13 11:06, Julien Cristau wrote: >> Control: severity -1 important >> >> I am raising this bug to critical, as it meets the definition "makes >> unrelated software on the system (or the whole system) break" >> No, it does not. hw will shut itself o

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 28/03/13 12:24, Martin Wuertele wrote: > * John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [2013-03-28 12:08]: > >> On 03/28/2013 11:47 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: >>> Would you provide a guarantee to all users of wheezy that you will pay >>> for their laptop repair if this issue causes damage? >> Debian GNU/Linux come

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 03/28/2013 12:33 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: Think about it another way - if you put Debian on a friend's laptop and they suffer with this issue, would you be quoting that clause in the license for them? I would. Software is made by humans, it's never perfect after all and you should always ex

Re: Bug#704124: codename 'rc-buggy' not handled correctly

2013-03-28 Thread Paul R. Tagliamonte
Just as unstable has "sid", experimental is "rc-buggy", the rc car from toy story. Hilarious joke :) T On Mar 28, 2013 6:36 AM, "John Paul Adrian Glaubitz" < glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de> wrote: > On 03/28/2013 11:21 AM, Julien Cristau wrote: > >> rc-buggy is not a codename, it's a bad joke. D

Re: Bug#704124: codename 'rc-buggy' not handled correctly

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Dowland
That explains why "rc-buggy" started showing up against experimental packages on packages.debian.org. I assumed it was a PDO bug. I guess everyone has stopped laughing now. Can we get rid of it? (It's also very misleading). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread The Wanderer
On 03/28/2013 07:32 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: (on a more personal note, why oh why would you ever want the system to suspend when you close the lid? That's what a suspend button is for. If my laptop is compiling something, I do *not* want it to suspend when I close the lid, thankyouverymuch. Oh

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 28/03/13 12:32, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On 28-03-13 11:47, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> On 28/03/13 11:06, Julien Cristau wrote: >>> Control: severity -1 important >>> >>> I am raising this bug to critical, as it meets the definition "makes >>> unrelated software on the system (or the whole system)

Re: adduser Pre-Depends for qemu-system-common

2013-03-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Wookey writes ("Re: adduser Pre-Depends for qemu-system-common"): > I don't know if there is a better way in this particular case but I do > know that adding users in preinsts does cause problems. Preinsts that > do anything important (which is not dealing with upgrades from > previous packages) ca

Re: Bug#704124: codename 'rc-buggy' not handled correctly

2013-03-28 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:56:52 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 11:21:29 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:02:11 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > > Putting debian-devel@l.d.o on CC for this bug report, as this change > > > might ha

Re: Bug#704124: codename 'rc-buggy' not handled correctly

2013-03-28 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 14:32:12 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:56:52 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 11:21:29 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:02:11 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > > > Pu

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:32:57PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > on a more personal note, why oh why would you ever want the system to suspend > when you close the lid? That's what a suspend button is for. My suspend button requires a function modifier and is ignored if the screen saver is activ

Re: Bug#704124: codename 'rc-buggy' not handled correctly

2013-03-28 Thread Philipp Kern
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 02:41:36PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > What makes you think it's used? > My grep on access logs on ftp.d.o mirrors. But as you see, it's not actually useable and shows that warning. It was a joke that was never announced, to keep the RT from picking the last name

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On 28-03-13 14:04, Daniel Pocock wrote: > On 28/03/13 12:32, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> On 28-03-13 11:47, Daniel Pocock wrote: >>> On 28/03/13 11:06, Julien Cristau wrote: Control: severity -1 important I am raising this bug to critical, as it meets the definition "makes unrelat

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/28/2013 06:47 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > On 28/03/13 11:06, Julien Cristau wrote: >> Control: severity -1 important >> >> I am raising this bug to critical, as it meets the definition "makes >> unrelated software on the system (or the whole system) break" >> No, it does not. hw will shut its

Bug#704054: /etc/environment.d

2013-03-28 Thread adrelanos
Lars Wirzenius: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:36:44AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 12:54:41PM +, adrelanos wrote: >>> Package: general >>> Severity: wishlist >> >>> I'd like to have a /etc/environment.d folder. Contributing that code >>> shouldn't be hard for me. But I

Bug#704054: /etc/environment.d

2013-03-28 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
adrelanos writes: > Thanks, I can think of other solutions, it's just that I find this .d > structure really clean, beautiful and simple to use. I personally would rather prefer a library interface so that it is possible to change the storage backend in the future. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites

2013-03-28 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Dienstag, den 26.03.2013, 00:10 +0800 schrieb Thomas Goirand: > On 03/25/2013 07:59 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 01:29:13PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: > >> Am Samstag, den 23.03.2013, 13:13 +0100 schrieb Michael Stapelberg: > >>> Could you instead package jdownloader

Bug#704151: ITP: quadrule -- C library of quadrature rules for numerical integration

2013-03-28 Thread Mike Neish
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Neish * Package name: quadrule Version : 0~20121001 Upstream Author : John Burkardt * URL : http://people.sc.fsu.edu/~jburkardt/c_src/quadrule/quadrule.html * License : LGPL3 Programming Lang: C Description

Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites

2013-03-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On 28-03-13 17:25, Benjamin Drung wrote: > JDownloader comes with an updater that will update itself. Debian has an updater that will update *the whole system*. It's called "dpkg". Please don't use that as an argument in favour of providing a downloader. I agree with what's been said before: we s

Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites

2013-03-28 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Donnerstag, den 28.03.2013, 17:37 +0100 schrieb Wouter Verhelst: > On 28-03-13 17:25, Benjamin Drung wrote: > > JDownloader comes with an updater that will update itself. > > Debian has an updater that will update *the whole system*. It's called > "dpkg". Please don't use that as an argument in

Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites

2013-03-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/29/2013 12:25 AM, Benjamin Drung wrote: > JDownloader comes with an updater that will update itself. Gosh! One more reason why not to package it then. You would otherwise provide a backdoor to a 3rd party in any Debian system that has this installed. In Debian, we have a unified tool called

Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites

2013-03-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/29/2013 12:49 AM, Benjamin Drung wrote: > There is another, not yet mentioned possible issue. JDownloader supports > a wide variety of One-Click-Hosters via plug-ins. These plug-ins needs > to be update every time a One-Click-Hoster changes its interface. IMO, this is a good fit for what we u

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 28/03/13 16:14, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 03/28/2013 06:47 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> On 28/03/13 11:06, Julien Cristau wrote: >>> Control: severity -1 important >>> >>> I am raising this bug to critical, as it meets the definition "makes >>> unrelated software on the system (or the whole syst

Bug#704158: ITP: trac-migrate -- migrate a trac environment to another database

2013-03-28 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daniel Kahn Gillmor * Package name: trac-migrate Version : 0.12+svn12737 Upstream Author : Jun Omae * URL : http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TracMigratePlugin * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : migr

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 28.03.2013 18:48, schrieb Daniel Pocock: > I clearly understand your previous feedback and agree, that is why I > thought it might be helpful discussing this issue on debian-devel, to > get a feel for how the community feels about this type of issue and it's > severity for us and for users dis

Bug#704054: marked as done (/etc/environment.d)

2013-03-28 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:02:03 +0100 with message-id <201303281902.04274.hol...@layer-acht.org> and subject line Re: Bug#704054: /etc/environment.d has caused the Debian Bug report #704054, regarding /etc/environment.d to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 06:48:09PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > If a package fails to do what it is supposed to do, isn't that a valid > argument that it is RC? No. Or virtually every bug would be RC. > gnome-power-manager is meant to suspend a user's laptop when they shut > the lid and put it

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:48:09 +0100 Daniel Pocock wrote: > > This isn't the first time that you are discussing the severity of > > bugs, and raising them to RC level instead of what they deserve, > > which was the original severity. You did that to some of my > > packages (for example, see #695221

Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites

2013-03-28 Thread Thomas Koch
Benjamin Drung: > Am Dienstag, den 26.03.2013, 00:10 +0800 schrieb Thomas Goirand: > > On 03/25/2013 07:59 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 01:29:13PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: > > >> Am Samstag, den 23.03.2013, 13:13 +0100 schrieb Michael Stapelberg: > > >>> Could you i

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 06:48:09PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > If a package fails to do what it is supposed to do, isn't that a valid > argument that it is RC? > > gnome-power-manager is meant to suspend a user's laptop when they shut > the lid and put it in a carry bag. That's what the manual

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/29/2013 01:48 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > Thomas, you have put a lot of great work into the XCP packages and I'm > glad I've tried them. I've also provided diagnostic information, > patches and workarounds for those issues that I felt to be RC, so that > the users can have the best possible e

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 28/03/13 19:12, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > Perfection is unattainable. Every Debian stable release is buggy as > hell, and that's unavoidable, if we want to make any releases at all. I don't think anybody raised the issue of perfection This issue I've observed is a relative one - it was workin

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 28/03/13 18:59, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 28.03.2013 18:48, schrieb Daniel Pocock: > >> I clearly understand your previous feedback and agree, that is >> why I thought it might be helpful discussing this issue on >> debian-devel, to get a feel

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/29/2013 03:32 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > On 28/03/13 18:59, Michael Biebl wrote: > > Am 28.03.2013 18:48, schrieb Daniel Pocock: > > >> I clearly understand your previous feedback and agree, that is > >> why I thought it might be helpful discussing this issue on > >> debian-devel, to get

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:07:43PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 03/28/2013 11:47 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > >Would you provide a guarantee to all users of wheezy that you will pay > >for their laptop repair if this issue causes damage? > > > Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLU

Work-needing packages report for Mar 29, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 491 (new: 1) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 145 (new: 2) Total number of packages request