Re: major linux problems summary 2012

2012-11-04 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] "Andrej N. Gritsenko" > That is no case for open software as you still have no money from it, > whether would you fix the bugs or not, therefore will someone use it > beside you or not, it still will be for your own fun. You seem to be confusing «open software» (sic) with non-commercial softw

Re: IPv6, tentative addresses, bind(), wheezy

2012-11-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 00:38:32 +0100, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: >On Nov 02, Don Armstrong wrote: >> Seems like the right solution is to wait for the network device to be >> fully up in the init script with a sleep loop... though that's >> certainly not optimal. >Maybe for the time being it

Re: IPv6, tentative addresses, bind(), wheezy

2012-11-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 23:24:55 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: >The reason is that by the time bind() is called, the IPv6 address >(configured with /e/n/i inet6 static, which unbound should listen >on) is not yet ready, but "tentative", so the bind() call fails. Last time when I asked a question along

Re: major linux problems summary 2012

2012-11-04 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 02:37:34PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > At least with open source software, a third path (besides working around > the bug or switching to some other software) also exists: you can help. > That's not always practical, but at least it's *possible*. Not all problems are things

Re: major linux problems summary 2012

2012-11-04 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 10:29:50PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > If there are specific issues which cannot be expressed by bug reports > (e.g. because they affect more than one package), by all means raise > them here one by one. "You can't publish a (dynamically linked) binary that can be used on

Re: major linux problems summary 2012

2012-11-04 Thread Karol Szkudlarek
2012/11/3 Jonathan Nieder : > Hi Karol, > > Karol Szkudlarek wrote: > >> I'm Debian/Ubuntu/Linux enthusiasts which loves using free operating >> systems on my machines, but today in 2012 I'm struggling with many >> problems with setup/tunning my Dell Latitude E6510 and Ubuntu and I >> have some tho

Re: major linux problems summary 2012

2012-11-04 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 04:01:03PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > "You can't publish a (dynamically linked) binary that can be used on most > user systems" > "You cannot make all your GUI software look the same" The information density and/or applicability of those statements is too low to use

off topic (Re: major linux problems summary 2012)

2012-11-04 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 12:03:37PM +0100, Karol Szkudlarek wrote: > > Karol Szkudlarek wrote: > >> today in 2012 I'm struggling with many > >> problems with setup/tunning my Dell Latitude E6510 and Ubuntu > Currently my laptop works under Ubuntu > I don't know where are also Debian specific > Secon

Bug#692264: ITP: double-conversion -- routines to convert IEEE doubles to and from strings

2012-11-04 Thread Sébastien Villemot
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Sébastien Villemot" User: debian-scie...@lists.debian.org Usertags: field..mathematics Control: block 691912 by -1 * Package name: double-conversion Version : 1.1.1-1 Upstream Author : Florian Loitsch * URL : http://double-con

Re: Bug#692264: ITP: double-conversion -- routines to convert IEEE doubles to and from strings

2012-11-04 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 12:55:09PM +0100, Sébastien Villemot wrote: > > * Package name: double-conversion libjs-double-conversion would be more appropriate, since this is a javascript library. double-conversion is too generic. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Li

Re: Bug#692264: ITP: double-conversion -- routines to convert IEEE doubles to and from strings

2012-11-04 Thread Sébastien Villemot
Roger Leigh writes: > On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 12:55:09PM +0100, Sébastien Villemot wrote: >> >> * Package name: double-conversion > > libjs-double-conversion would be more appropriate, since > this is a javascript library. double-conversion is too > generic. It's actually written in C++, n

Re: major linux problems summary 2012

2012-11-04 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 12:41:13PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 04:01:03PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > "You can't publish a (dynamically linked) binary that can be used on most > > user systems" > > "You cannot make all your GUI software look the same" > > The inf

Re: Bug#692264: ITP: double-conversion -- routines to convert IEEE doubles to and from strings

2012-11-04 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 01:08:18PM +0100, Sébastien Villemot wrote: > Roger Leigh writes: > > > On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 12:55:09PM +0100, Sébastien Villemot wrote: > >> > >> * Package name: double-conversion > > > > libjs-double-conversion would be more appropriate, since > > this is a javas

Re: Bug#692264: ITP: double-conversion -- routines to convert IEEE doubles to and from strings

2012-11-04 Thread Sébastien Villemot
Roger Leigh writes: > On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 01:08:18PM +0100, Sébastien Villemot wrote: >> Roger Leigh writes: >> >> > On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 12:55:09PM +0100, Sébastien Villemot wrote: >> >> >> >> * Package name: double-conversion >> > >> > libjs-double-conversion would be more appropr

Re: IPv6, tentative addresses, bind(), wheezy

2012-11-04 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2012-11-04 at 10:18 +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 23:24:55 +0100, martin f krafft > wrote: > >The reason is that by the time bind() is called, the IPv6 address > >(configured with /e/n/i inet6 static, which unbound should listen > >on) is not yet ready, but "tentative", so

Re: IPv6, tentative addresses, bind(), wheezy

2012-11-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Ben Hutchings [2012.11.03.2027 +0100]: > Whyever not? You can get a socket bound to a non-local address > even without this option, if the address is removed after you > bind. The restriction to current local addresses is only a sanity > check which may or may not be useful. You are

Re: major linux problems summary 2012

2012-11-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Andrey Rahmatullin writes: > On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 02:37:34PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> At least with open source software, a third path (besides working >> around the bug or switching to some other software) also exists: you >> can help. That's not always practical, but at least it's *pos

Re: IPv6, tentative addresses, bind(), wheezy

2012-11-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Marc Haber [2012.11.04.1013 +0100]: > >Maybe for the time being it will be easier and safer to have ifupdown > >wait until DAD is finished? > > How does one find out about that? % ip -6 addr show dev eth0 | grep "2001:db8::deb1:46.* tentative" inet6 2001:db8::deb1:46/64 scope gl

MBF: packages with autopkgtest tests but no XS-Testsuite

2012-11-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
It looks like we have already 68 packages in the Debian archive shipping autopkgtest [1] tests, which is great! But unfortunately only 3 of them declare the presence of the testsuite adding the recommended [2] "XS-Testsuite: autopkgtest" header to their source stanza in debian/control. The dd-lis

Re: IPv6, tentative addresses, bind(), wheezy

2012-11-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 06:26:26PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Marc Haber [2012.11.04.1013 +0100]: > > >Maybe for the time being it will be easier and safer to have ifupdown > > >wait until DAD is finished? > > How does one find out about that? > % ip -6 addr show dev eth0 | gre

Re: MBF: packages with autopkgtest tests but no XS-Testsuite

2012-11-04 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 07:01:12PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > It looks like we have already 68 packages in the Debian archive shipping > autopkgtest [1] tests, which is great! But unfortunately only 3 of them > declare the presence of the testsuite adding the recommended [2] > "XS-Testsuit

Ayudeme por favor a iniciarme en el mundo de Linux

2012-11-04 Thread Juan Perez
Hola quiero aprender a manejar Linux, que distribución me recomendaría, Debian, Ubuntu, o Opensuse. Me compre un libro de Linux, que era un plagio de otro libro de internet de otro autor, allí hablaba de CentOS, pero lei luego que CentOS, es mas para servidores. ¿Ud que me recomendaría? Leí qu

Re: IPv6, tentative addresses, bind(), wheezy

2012-11-04 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Steve Langasek (04/11/2012): > Is there a way to get an event-based notification of this change, so > ifupdown can listen for such an event rather than having to poll? TL;DR: I think so. I don't know anything about the linux kernel Looking at net/ipv6/addrconf.c we have for examples: add_addr

Re: IPv6, tentative addresses, bind(), wheezy

2012-11-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Steve Langasek [2012.11.04.1921 +0100]: > Is there a way to get an event-based notification of this change, so > ifupdown can listen for such an event rather than having to poll? I experimented with ip-monitor(8), which supposedly dumps RTNETLINK, but it remained silent on the clearin

Re: IPv6, tentative addresses, bind(), wheezy

2012-11-04 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 4 novembre 2012 19:21 CET, Steve Langasek  : >> > How does one find out about that? > >> % ip -6 addr show dev eth0 | grep "2001:db8::deb1:46.* tentative" >> inet6 2001:db8::deb1:46/64 scope global tentative > >> Once DAD completes, the "tentative" goes away. > >> Programatically, I think

Re: IPv6, tentative addresses, bind(), wheezy

2012-11-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Vincent Bernat [2012.11.04.2033 +0100]: > Trying with "ip monitor addr", it seems that the netlink notification is > sent once the tentative flags has been removed. You are right. I have now removed the tomato from my eyes. -- .''`. martin f. krafft Related projects: : :'

Re: IPv6, tentative addresses, bind(), wheezy

2012-11-04 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2012-11-04 at 19:48 +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Steve Langasek (04/11/2012): > > Is there a way to get an event-based notification of this change, so > > ifupdown can listen for such an event rather than having to poll? > > TL;DR: I think so. > > I don't know anything about the linux

Bug#692320: ITP: A tool for securing communications between a client and a DNS resolver

2012-11-04 Thread sky blue
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name : dnscrypt-proxy Version: 1.2.0 Upstream Author : Frank Denis URL : http://dnscrypt.org License: ISC Description : A

debian mate

2012-11-04 Thread Виталий Короневич
debian gnome-edition - ok debian kde-edition - ok debian lxde-edition - ok debian xfce-edition - ok when will debian mate-edition?

Re: debian mate

2012-11-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 02:57:35AM +0400, Виталий Короневич wrote: > debian gnome-edition - ok > debian kde-edition - ok > debian lxde-edition - ok > debian xfce-edition - ok > when will debian mate-edition? When someone (you?) does the work to package (the relevant parts of) mate. -- Copyshops

Re: debian mate

2012-11-04 Thread Andrew Kolotenko
On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 02:57 +0400, Виталий Короневич wrote: > debian gnome-edition - ok > debian kde-edition - ok > debian lxde-edition - ok > debian xfce-edition - ok > when will debian mate-edition? what for? the ones above are enough imho -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@list

Re: debian mate

2012-11-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 02:57:35AM +0400, Виталий Короневич wrote: > debian gnome-edition - ok > debian kde-edition - ok > debian lxde-edition - ok > debian xfce-edition - ok Those aren't really editions comparable to Ubuntu's editions or Fedora's spins. You just install a regular Debian and choos

Re: Bugs filed in unexpected places

2012-11-04 Thread Tomas Pospisek
Hello Andrei and all, On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:24:59 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > The discussion about ITO made me think: wouldn't it make more sense to > also have RFH, RFA, and O filled against the package itself and not > wnpp? One has to be quite familiar with Debian to check wnpp for RFH,