2012/11/3 Jonathan Nieder <jrnie...@gmail.com>: > Hi Karol, > > Karol Szkudlarek wrote: > >> I'm Debian/Ubuntu/Linux enthusiasts which loves using free operating >> systems on my machines, but today in 2012 I'm struggling with many >> problems with setup/tunning my Dell Latitude E6510 and Ubuntu and I >> have some thoughts general thoughts about Linux lacking and problems. >> >> And in the internet I've found great summary of my thougths written by >> Artem S. Tashkinov about Linux: >> >> http://linuxfonts.narod.ru/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html > > I've found you to be helpful and constructive when dealing with kernel > bugs, so I don't want you to be discouraged. > > A ping listing bugs that need more attention or a new strategy to solve > them is not a bad thing. However, the above list is not presented in a > helpful way --- it would be more useful to list bug numbers and to be > specific when possible about what direct action the reader can take to > make things better. > > For example: > > "I have been struggling with many problems setting up and > tuning my Dell Latitude E6510 on Ubuntu that are also present > in Debian: > > bug#12345 - ... > bug#12346 - ... > > The process has been slow and discouraging. Any tips for > making this go better? What can I and my friends do to make > sure the next new machine is closer to working on Debian out > of the box without fuss?" > > By the way, the kernel team needs help --- many of the bugs at > http://bugs.debian.org/src:linux-2.6 and http://bugs.debian.org/src:linux > need the work listed at > http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-bugs.html#s9.1.4 done for > them. > > Thanks and hope that helps, > Jonathan
Hello Jonathan, Thanks for explantation and of course I'm trying to fill bug reports to make things better.. Currently my laptop works under Ubuntu and here are examples of BTS reports: about BUG: scheduling while atomic: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1068833 and about graphics freeze: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/1033263 and about touchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/606238 and about cpu fan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/i8kutils/+bug/410596 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+bug/632228 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/i8kutils/+bug/1060096 I don't know where are also Debian specific, because I'm using my laptop to day by day work with many stuff configured as I want so changing/replacing kernel or a distro is a process which I can't do frequently (probably first I will try a live demo of wheezy when will be released) All I need is a stable set of tools and mobile laptop which I can resume/suspend without crashes and do my work. Secondly I'm only a user of OS not a developer. :-) I'm monitoring crashes of my laptop which can't be solved during Ctrl-Alt-Backspace or REISUB and the stats from April look as follows: crash 2012-04-29 11:27:26 -> up 2012-04-29 13:46:20 = 02:18:54 (8334 s) crash 2012-05-06 12:11:10 -> up 2012-05-06 12:28:24 = 00:17:14 (1034 s) crash 2012-05-07 16:31:23 -> up 2012-05-07 21:35:08 = 05:03:45 (18225 s) crash 2012-05-07 21:37:54 -> up 2012-05-07 21:41:04 = 00:03:10 (190 s) crash 2012-05-07 21:47:29 -> up 2012-05-07 21:48:00 = 00:00:31 (31 s) crash 2012-05-14 21:44:42 -> up 2012-05-14 23:11:07 = 01:26:25 (5185 s) crash 2012-06-07 22:42:24 -> up 2012-06-08 08:05:23 = 09:22:59 (33779 s) crash 2012-06-27 19:00:23 -> up 2012-06-27 19:25:18 = 00:24:55 (1495 s) crash 2012-06-27 20:48:10 -> up 2012-06-27 22:06:09 = 01:17:59 (4679 s) crash 2012-06-30 18:03:12 -> up 2012-06-30 18:04:06 = 00:00:54 (54 s) crash 2012-07-20 22:26:26 -> up 2012-07-20 22:29:49 = 00:03:23 (203 s) crash 2012-08-07 21:05:38 -> up 2012-08-07 21:19:29 = 00:13:51 (831 s) crash 2012-08-07 22:37:09 -> up 2012-08-07 22:40:40 = 00:03:31 (211 s) crash 2012-08-12 17:36:20 -> up 2012-08-12 18:20:58 = 00:44:38 (2678 s) crash 2012-08-16 10:27:22 -> up 2012-08-16 10:33:18 = 00:05:56 (356 s) crash 2012-08-21 19:37:52 -> up 2012-08-21 19:38:14 = 00:00:22 (22 s) crash 2012-09-01 23:14:06 -> up 2012-09-01 23:17:22 = 00:03:16 (196 s) crash 2012-09-19 10:53:17 -> up 2012-09-19 10:55:38 = 00:02:21 (141 s) crash 2012-09-22 17:53:34 -> up 2012-09-22 17:59:28 = 00:05:54 (354 s) crash 2012-09-23 17:47:52 -> up 2012-09-24 08:24:35 = 14:36:43 (52603 s) crash 2012-09-30 21:05:59 -> up 2012-09-30 21:23:52 = 00:17:53 (1073 s) crash 2012-10-01 20:39:22 -> up 2012-10-01 20:47:07 = 00:07:45 (465 s) crash 2012-10-05 23:52:09 -> up 2012-10-06 09:46:29 = 09:54:20 (35660 s) crash 2012-10-08 21:53:00 -> up 2012-10-08 21:54:57 = 00:01:57 (117 s) crash 2012-10-11 23:09:10 -> up 2012-10-12 09:38:53 = 10:29:43 (37783 s) crash 2012-10-13 06:33:47 -> up 2012-10-13 13:15:08 = 06:41:21 (24081 s) crash 2012-10-19 16:31:22 -> up 2012-10-19 17:36:15 = 01:04:53 (3893 s) crash 2012-10-20 17:39:13 -> up 2036-12-03 22:28:57 = 8810+05:49:44 (761204984 s) crash 2012-10-20 21:18:14 -> up 2012-10-20 21:18:55 = 00:00:41 (41 s) crash 2012-10-22 10:29:50 -> up 2012-10-22 10:30:47 = 00:00:57 (57 s) crash 2012-10-30 22:32:06 -> up 2012-10-31 08:26:41 = 09:54:35 (35675 s) and I don't blame Debian or Ubuntu or I want a 'profound revelation'... but I'm trying to use a car without be a mechanic.. :-) Regards, KarolSzk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CA+1EyU4dn8YHtoBswSQQeoCv4cYUWBb7h6_r=c-s-lsudcu...@mail.gmail.com
