Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On 04/26/2012 08:58 AM, Arto Jantunen wrote: > Eray Aslan writes: > >> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 03:23:18AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: >>> I think Arto Jantunen explained it pretty well earlier in this thread: Reliability in the case of modern kernels and modern hardware means event bas

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On 04/25/2012 06:42 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 08:52:59PM +0800, Patrick Lauer wrote: >> I'd like to ask you to evaluate OpenRC as candidate to replace the "old" >> have-always-been-there sysvinit/insserv init scripts in Debian. > > While as others have mentioned that ideally

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

Le jeudi 26 avril 2012 à 09:47 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz a écrit : > > Unless you have radically modified things from the way the kernel works > > by default, a lot of things already happen on your servers when a usb > > device is inserted (the kernel notices the device and loads a driver, > > udev (if

Bug#670504: ITP: jiipview -- Java Internet Imaging Protocol (IIP v1.05) client

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mathieu Malaterre * Package name: jiipview Version : 2.05 Upstream Author : Denis Pitzalis * URL : http://iipimage.sf.net * License : GPL Programming Lang: Java Description : Java Internet Imaging Protocol (IIP v

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On 04/26/2012 12:19 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > as a very first step I suggest to get OpenRC packaged for Debian. Until then, > your suggestion is a bit like suggesting to use the hurd as the default > kernel > ;-) > > > cheers, > Holger > > > Patric is in Shanghai, like me, I ca

Bug#670508: ITP: python-django-pipeline -- Asset packaging library for Django

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dmitry Nezhevenko * Package name: python-django-pipeline Version : 1.2.2 Upstream Author : Andreas Pelme, Timothée Peignier, others * URL : https://github.com/cyberdelia/django-pipeline * License : MIT/Expat Programmin

Re: devotee (debian vote engine): predictable RNG allows recovery of secret monikers

Timo Juhani Lindfors writes: > votes in the final tally. If I knew the hashes sufficiently many (maybe > 20?) voters I probably could predict the initial state of the RNG and > reverse this randomization step completely. It seems that if you know the md5 hashes of only four people you can already

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 09:49:18AM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > On 04/25/2012 06:42 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 08:52:59PM +0800, Patrick Lauer wrote: > >> I'd like to ask you to evaluate OpenRC as candidate to replace the "old" > >> have-always-been-there sysvinit/insserv i

Plans to (re-)include cgroups in wheezy?

Hi, I'm trying to get Condor [0] included into wheezy. I just now realized that the cgroups package [1] which condor currently depends on is in a rather bad shape (numerous bugs, only little maintainer response, last upload a year ago, one upstream release behind). Looking at HOWTOs like [2] it s

Bug#670533: ITP: japi-compliance-checker -- tool to compare compatibility of Java library API

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mathieu Malaterre * Package name: japi-compliance-checker Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : Andrey Ponomarenko * URL : http://ispras.linuxbase.org/index.php/Java_API_Compliance_Checker * License : LGPL Programming Lang:

Bug#670534: ITP: sbmltoolbox -- libsbml toolbox for octave and matlab

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: ivo Maintz * Package name: sbmltoolbox Version : 4.1.0 Upstream Author : Sarah Keating * URL : http://sbml.org/Software/SBMLToolbox * License : LGPL Programming Lang: math Description : libsbml toolbox for octave

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Wednesday, April 25, 2012 08:52:59, Patrick Lauer wrote: > Greetings, > > in the last months there have been many discussions about init systems, > especially systemd. The current state seems to make no one really happy > - the current debian init system is a bit minimal and doesn't even do > s

Re: Plans to (re-)include cgroups in wheezy?

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 03:00:55PM +0200, Michael Hanke wrote: > I'm trying to get Condor [0] included into wheezy. I just now realized > that the cgroups package [1] which condor currently depends on is in a > rather bad shape (numerous bugs, only little maintainer response, last > upload a year a

Bug#670538: ITP: sbmltoolbox -- libsbml toolbox for octave and matlab

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: ivo Maintz * Package name: sbmltoolbox Version : 4.1.0 Upstream Author : Sarah Keating * URL : http://sbml.org/Software/SBMLToolbox * License : LGPL Programming Lang: math Description : libsbml toolbox for octave

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

Hi! AFAIK systemd supports startup notifications, even in colour - at least it did this last time I tried (a few weeks ago) Maybe your systemd version is too old? (Quoting Lennart: "We now show the progress of fsck at boot on the console, again. We also show the much loved colorful [ OK ] status me

Bug#670539: general: error in shell script: 0208: value too great for base (error token is "0208")

Package: general Severity: normal I've written some shell scripts. The part giving errors is: /* CODE BEGIN */ #!/bin/bash EXITCODE[0101]="XXX" EXITCODE[0102]="XXX" EXITCODE[0103]="XXX" EXITCODE[0104]="XXX" EXITCODE[0105]="XXX" EXITCODE[0106]="XXX" EXITCODE[0201]="XXX" EXITCODE[0202]="XXX" EXITC

Bug#670539: general: error in shell script: 0208: value too great for base (error token is "0208")

Hi Steffen. On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Steffen Erlecke wrote: > ../t.sh: line 15: 0208: value too great for base (error token is "0208") > ../t.sh: line 16: 0209: value too great for base (error Error: XXX: > Test-Error > /* RESULT END */ > > The questions now are: What is the difference fr

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On 04/26/2012 02:42 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: [..] > OpenRC doesn't currently parse LSB headers; it would definitely need to > be able to do this before we could adopt it. What does it do instead? Getting rid of LSB headers in favour of something sane might be a good idea (yeah, I know that there wou

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On 26.04.2012 15:58, Chris Knadle wrote: > After testing systemd some, I've now grown a new appreciation for the default > Debian init system -- because it gives visual notification of what's been > started, where systemd does not. Ahem, not true. I bet you are booting with the "quiet" kernel

Processed: closing 670539

Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > close 670539 Bug #670539 [general] general: error in shell script: 0208: value too great for base (error token is "0208") Marked Bug as done > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 670539: http://bugs.deb

Re: Towards multi-arch: "Multi-Arch: same" file conflicts

Hi, On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 03:26:21PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 20:03:27 +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > > If a package is marked as "Multi-Arch: same", files with the same > > name have to be (byte-to-byte) identical across all architectures. > > Unfortunately, not all

Re: Towards multi-arch: "Multi-Arch: same" file conflicts

Hi, Just removing Multi-Arch causes this lintian warning ... W: ibus source: dependency-is-not-multi-archified libibus-1.0-dev depends on gir1.2-ibus-1.0 (multi-arch: no) N: N:The package is Multi-Arch "same", but it depends on a package that is N:neither Multi-Arch "same" nor "foreign"

thttpd

Hi, all. What email i can use to send patch for thttpd to? And is it normal that i cann't see thttpd package in wheezy? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http:

Re: thttpd

Hi, thttpd was removed, for more details, please see: http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/thttpd/news/20120101T154305Z.html http://bugs.debian.org/653752 Kind regards, -- Julián Moreno Patiño .''`. Debian GNU/{Linux,KfreeBSD} : :' : Free Operating Systems `. `' http://debian.org/ `- PGP KEY

Re: thttpd

Oleg writes: > What email i can use to send patch for thttpd to? > And is it normal that i cann't see thttpd package in wheezy? >From http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/thttpd.html you can see that it has been removed: "RoQA; orphaned, RC-buggy, dead upstream, plenty of alternatives exist" --

Re: thttpd

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:28:16 +0400 Oleg wrote: > What email i can use to send patch for thttpd to? > And is it normal that i cann't see thttpd package in wheezy? http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/thttpd.html -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpQCVsh7nEaP.p

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On 04/26/2012 08:42 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: > If anyone fancies > doing the packaging, I'll be happy to join in. I'll probably be able > to provide a better overview once I know a bit more. > > > Regards, > Roger > As I wrote already, Patrick lives in Shanghai just like me. What happened is tha

Re: Towards multi-arch: "Multi-Arch: same" file conflicts

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 23:21, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 03:26:21PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 20:03:27 +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: >> >> > If a package is marked as "Multi-Arch: same", files with the same >> > name have to be (byte-to-byte) iden

Re: thttpd

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:40:27AM -0500, Juli?n Moreno Pati?o wrote: > Hi, > > thttpd was removed, for more details, please see: > > http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/thttpd/news/20120101T154305Z.html > http://bugs.debian.org/653752 And what alternatives exist now? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: thttpd

Oleg writes: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:40:27AM -0500, Juli?n Moreno Pati?o wrote: >> thttpd was removed, for more details, please see: >> http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/thttpd/news/20120101T154305Z.html >> http://bugs.debian.org/653752 > And what alternatives exist now? nginx seems to be

Bug#670549: ITP: lua-ldap -- LDAP library for the Lua language

Package: wnpp Owner: Luca Capello Severity: wishlist Usertags: pca.it-authentication * Package name: lua-ldap Version : 1.1.0 Upstream Author : Kepler Project (copyright holder) * URL or Web page : * License : MIT Description :

Re: thttpd

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 09:06:36AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Oleg writes: > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:40:27AM -0500, Juli?n Moreno Pati?o wrote: > > >> thttpd was removed, for more details, please see: > > >> http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/thttpd/news/20120101T154305Z.html > >> http://bug

Re: devotee (debian vote engine): predictable RNG allows recovery of secret monikers

Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > True. We need to both fix the RNG and use a longer moniker. M = H(CRYPT_PRNG()) for example: use Digest::SHA qw(sha1_hex); open(UR, '<', '/dev/urandom') or die($!); my $rbytes; die if (sysread(UR, $rbytes, 16) < 16); my $m = sha1_hex($rbytes); And while at it,

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 09:57 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 26 avril 2012 à 09:47 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz a écrit : > > > Unless you have radically modified things from the way the kernel works > > > by default, a lot of things already happen on your servers when a usb > > > device is inser

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 07:05:55PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > Init is about the boot of the computer, right? Who is stupid enough to > put in a usb stick _during_ the boot? We need to separate boot from > adding/removing peripheral devices! I've no idea why that would be stupid. If I were boo

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 09:27:43AM +0300, Eray Aslan wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 03:23:18AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > > I think Arto Jantunen explained it pretty well earlier in this > > thread: > > > Reliability in the case of modern kernels and modern hardware > > > means event based, n

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Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

Le jeudi 26 avril 2012 à 19:05 +0200, Svante Signell a écrit : > Init is about the boot of the computer, right? Who is stupid enough to > put in a usb stick _during_ the boot? We need to separate boot from > adding/removing peripheral devices! Yes of course, because event-driven init systems have

Re: thttpd

On 27/04/2012 00:37, lego12...@yandex.ru wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 09:06:36AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Oleg writes: >>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:40:27AM -0500, Juli?n Moreno Pati?o wrote: >> thttpd was removed, for more details, please see: >> http://packages.qa.debian.org/

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 16:05, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > Hi! > AFAIK systemd supports startup notifications, even in colour - at > least it did this last time I tried (a few weeks ago) Yes, it does but on wide screen it is not so easy to follow it because status (OK, Failed ...) are on the right end.

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On 12-04-26 at 10:23am, Jonathan McDowell wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 09:27:43AM +0300, Eray Aslan wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 03:23:18AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > > > I think Arto Jantunen explained it pretty well earlier in this > > > thread: > > > > Reliability in the case of m

Re: thttpd

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 01:42:15AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > On 27/04/2012 00:37, lego12...@yandex.ru wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 09:06:36AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > >> Oleg writes: > >>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:40:27AM -0500, Juli?n Moreno Pati?o wrote: > >> > thttpd was r

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:03:17PM -0400, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On 12-04-26 at 10:23am, Jonathan McDowell wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 09:27:43AM +0300, Eray Aslan wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 03:23:18AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > > > > I think Arto Jantunen explained it prett

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:05:02, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > Hi! :-) Greetings. > AFAIK systemd supports startup notifications, even in colour - at > least it did this last time I tried (a few weeks ago) > Maybe your systemd version is too old? > (Quoting Lennart: "We now show the progress of

Re: Towards multi-arch: "Multi-Arch: same" file conflicts

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 00:21:20 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > I also see for libopencc1 (not mine but I am watching it...) > > [libopencc1 0.3.0-2] > usr/share/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/opencc.mo > 2c2024df5378074f4727948eb7133516 mips s390 sparc s390x powerpc > 6a7df4d7f1f5383bd7461de8a0bb4957

Re: Towards multi-arch: "Multi-Arch: same" file conflicts

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 00:30:01 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > Just removing Multi-Arch causes this lintian warning ... > > W: ibus source: dependency-is-not-multi-archified libibus-1.0-dev > depends on gir1.2-ibus-1.0 (multi-arch: no) > N: > N:The package is Multi-Arch "same", but it

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 08:08:01PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:03:17PM -0400, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > I believe Debian still supports running locally compiled kernels which > > do not depend on udev, and that some setups do not require udev either > > (not everyon

Re: thttpd

On 27/04/2012 02:59, Oleg wrote: > Yes, i'm searching a tiny httpd for an embedded system with cgi support and > possibly with http basic authentication support. > Thank you. I didn't know about busybox httpd. No problem. busybox httpd supports CGI (just throw scripts into cgi-bin), but it loo

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

[Svante Signell] > Init is about the boot of the computer, right? Who is stupid enough > to put in a usb stick _during_ the boot? We need to separate boot > from adding/removing peripheral devices! You seem to misunderstand the problem. I will try to give a short explanation. The problem at han

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 19:27 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 26 avril 2012 à 19:05 +0200, Svante Signell a écrit : > > Init is about the boot of the computer, right? Who is stupid enough to > > put in a usb stick _during_ the boot? We need to separate boot from > > adding/removing periphe

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 18:09 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 07:05:55PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > Init is about the boot of the computer, right? Who is stupid enough to > > put in a usb stick _during_ the boot? We need to separate boot from > > adding/removing peripheral d

Re: Plans to (re-)include cgroups in wheezy?

* Michael Hanke wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to get Condor [0] included into wheezy. I just now realized > that the cgroups package [1] which condor currently depends on is in a > rather bad shape (numerous bugs, only little maintainer response, last > upload a year ago, one upstream release behin

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 22:20 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Svante Signell] .. > Say you want to mount a network disk during boot. This depend on the > network being configured. This in turn might depend on a DHCP reply > from a DHCP server, and to send the DHCP request the network card need

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

]] Chris Knadle > The default of passing 'quiet' to the kernel is also apparently picked > up by systemd, which then suppresses the daemon startup messages. If > 'quiet' is removed, systemd gives colorized daemon startup messages, > but this also makes the kernel noisy. I suspect you just want

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:40:43PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 22:20 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > [Svante Signell] > .. > > Say you want to mount a network disk during boot. This depend on the > > network being configured. This in turn might depend on a DHCP repl

Bug#670577: ITP: morse -- Multi-OpenRobot Simulation Engine

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sylvestre Ledru * Package name: morse Version : 0.5.1 Upstream Author : Laas * URL : http://morse.openrobots.org/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : Multi-OpenRobot Simulation Engine * Versati

Re: devotee (debian vote engine): predictable RNG allows recovery of secret monikers

Raphael Geissert writes: > print hmac_sha1_hex($v, $m); Yeah that sounds promising. Now we just need to fix the code that tries to randomize the order of entries in the tally. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact li

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

[Svante Signell] > This is the whole cause of the problem: You don't know the names of your > devices ay longer. Blame Linus! > What's the point of changing names of peripheral devices "dynamically"? > I've been struggling with eth0 and eth1 for some rime now, never knowing > how it will be named

Re: devotee (debian vote engine): predictable RNG allows recovery of secret monikers

Hi, 2012-04-26, 23:23:54 Timo Juhani wrote: > Raphael Geissert writes: > > print hmac_sha1_hex($v, $m); > > Yeah that sounds promising. Now we just need to fix the code that tries > to randomize the order of entries in the tally. Is that randomization really needed? Why not just sort based on t

Re: wine-unstable in Debian

Michael Gilbert writes: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 5:27 AM, Goswin von Brederlow > wrote: >> Jonas Smedegaard writes: >> >>> On 12-04-18 at 07:17pm, Simon McVittie wrote: I hesitate to suggest this if there's a possibility that the main wine package can come up to date before we freez

Bug#664257: multiarch tuples are not documented/defined

Ian Jackson writes: > Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: Bug#664257: multiarch tuples are not > documented/defined"): >> Ian Jackson writes: >> > What change to the Debian operating system, or to processes, >> > documents, infrastructure or organisational arrangements, maintained >> > by the Deb

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:50:51PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 04/26/2012 08:42 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: > > If anyone fancies > > doing the packaging, I'll be happy to join in. I'll probably be able > > to provide a better overview once I know a bit more. > I don't know much about OpenRC apa

Bug#664257: multiarch tuples are not documented/defined

reassign 664257 debian-policy 3.9.3.1 affects 664257 = tags 664257 = upstream quit Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > It is a bug in Debian: The multiarch tuples are not documented/defined > in Debian. Fine, reassigning to policy. Never say I didn't do anything for you... :) Policy maintainers, see

Processed: Re: multiarch tuples are not documented/defined

Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 664257 debian-policy 3.9.3.1 Bug #664257 [general] multiarch tuples are not in the FHS Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'debian-policy'. Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #664257 to the same values previously set Ig

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

Petter Reinholdtsen writes: > Say you want to mount a network disk during boot. This depend on the > network being configured. This in turn might depend on a DHCP reply > from a DHCP server, and to send the DHCP request the network card need > to be detected. To detect the network card, the ne

Re: Bug#664257: multiarch tuples are not documented/defined

Trimming the cc list down to something somewhat less large. Jonathan Nieder writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> It is a bug in Debian: The multiarch tuples are not documented/defined >> in Debian. > Fine, reassigning to policy. > Never say I didn't do anything for you... :) > Policy main

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Thursday, April 26, 2012 16:45:08, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Chris Knadle > > > The default of passing 'quiet' to the kernel is also apparently picked > > up by systemd, which then suppresses the daemon startup messages. If > > 'quiet' is removed, systemd gives colorized daemon startup messa

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On 27.04.2012 02:29, Chris Knadle wrote: > Specifically I'm looking to see the daemon startup console *text* messages, > but without verbose kernel bootup noise that is gotten if the 'quiet' option > is removed. echo "kernel.printk = 3 4 1 3" > /etc/sysctl.d/no-kernel-messages.conf -- Why is

Work-needing packages report for Apr 27, 2012

The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 408 (new: 0) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 166 (new: 2) Total number of packages request

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On 04/27/12 03:32, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 08:08:01PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:03:17PM -0400, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >>> I believe Debian still supports running locally compiled kernels which >>> do not depend on udev, and that some setups d

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On 04/27/12 08:02, Russ Allbery wrote: > Petter Reinholdtsen writes: > >> Say you want to mount a network disk during boot. This depend on the >> network being configured. This in turn might depend on a DHCP reply >> from a DHCP server, and to send the DHCP request the network card need >> to b

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 08:55 +0800, Patrick Lauer wrote: > On 04/27/12 03:32, Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 08:08:01PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:03:17PM -0400, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > >>> I believe Debian still supports running locally compiled

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

Patrick Lauer writes: > Just for fun, here's all the logic we need to get rsyncd started, *and* > it only starts once network is properly up (where the definition of "up" > is user-configurable as we often disagree on it): > #!/sbin/runscript > # Copyright 1999-2012 Gentoo Foundation > # Distrib

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 07:05:55PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > Init is about the boot of the computer, right? Who is stupid enough to > > put in a usb stick _during_ the boot? We need to separate boot from > > adding/removing peripheral devices! > >

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Svante Signell wrote: > I've been struggling with eth0 and eth1 for some rime now, never knowing > how it will be named for every new kernel :-( Fortunately udev allows us to assign static names for Ethernet devices. This means that if you have an existing eth0 which is bei

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Thursday, April 26, 2012 20:39:56, Michael Biebl wrote: > On 27.04.2012 02:29, Chris Knadle wrote: > > Specifically I'm looking to see the daemon startup console *text* > > messages, but without verbose kernel bootup noise that is gotten if the > > 'quiet' option is removed. > > echo "kernel.pr

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

This is getting OT and a better question for debian-user, so this will be my last post regarding this issue. On 27.04.2012 04:34, Chris Knadle wrote: > AFAICT I really want the 'quiet' linux command line parameter, and to > reconfigure the console output of systemd somehow. man 1 systemd : Try

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Thursday, April 26, 2012 23:18:35, Michael Biebl wrote: > This is getting OT and a better question for debian-user, so this will > be my last post regarding this issue. Agreed. Same. > On 27.04.2012 04:34, Chris Knadle wrote: > > AFAICT I really want the 'quiet' linux command line parameter,

Re: devotee (debian vote engine): predictable RNG allows recovery of secret monikers

Le 26/04/2012 19:02, Raphael Geissert a écrit : > Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: >> True. We need to both fix the RNG and use a longer moniker. > > M = H(CRYPT_PRNG()) > > for example: > > use Digest::SHA qw(sha1_hex); > > open(UR, '<', '/dev/urandom') or die($!); > > my $rbytes; > die if (sysrea

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

]] Chris Knadle > Specifically I'm looking to see the daemon startup console *text* messages, > but without verbose kernel bootup noise that is gotten if the 'quiet' option > is removed. Debian's default startup/init already does this, with ANSI > color. > I'm looking to see if I can duplic

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

]] Roger Leigh > Two issues that come to mind > - it's not permitted for a package to declare that it provides a > virtual service, e.g. $cron. This is actually in the LSB spec. > OpenRC does allow this. There are several bugs about this. It's not permitted _for LSB applications_. None of

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On 04/27/2012 10:02 AM, Russell Coker wrote: > Every version of Debian is released with some bugs, it's the way that > software > development goes. If the worst bug was that plugging a USB stick at the > wrong > time could disrupt the boot then I think that most people would consider it > as

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On 04/27/2012 07:39 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 04/27/2012 10:02 AM, Russell Coker wrote: >> Every version of Debian is released with some bugs, it's the way that >> software >> development goes. If the worst bug was that plugging a USB stick at the >> wrong >> time could disrupt the boot t

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:03:17PM -0400, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > I believe Debian still supports running locally compiled kernels which > do not depend on udev, and that some setups do not require udev either > (not everyone use fibre channel). Speaking of which: there was a somewhat related

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

On 04/27/2012 02:02 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Petter Reinholdtsen writes: > >> Say you want to mount a network disk during boot. This depend on the >> network being configured. This in turn might depend on a DHCP reply >> from a DHCP server, and to send the DHCP request the network card need >>