Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-08 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 7 May 2010 19:27:54 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 06:15:24PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Fri, 7 May 2010 09:26:18 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli >> wrote: >> >The init.d world has changed quite a bit in recent years and might >> >change even more in the next, it

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 19:27:54 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > (Beside the nitpick on "we want" vs "we possibly want") I'd argue that > it's because we want a faster boot from our users ASAP. > As far as I'm concerned, "faster boot" is irrelevant. Using an init daemon that actually does its

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 11:37:10AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > So it is the classical desktop vs. server situation. For my Debian > servers, that get booted at most once a month, I don't give a damn > about a faster boot. > > I _do_ care, however, about not having migrations in the boot process > w

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 10:06:52AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > All of this is based on my belief that there are very few people > testing with CONCURRENCY=makefile. If a lot of people are using it > successfully, it is less likely that there are many race conditions > and edge cases left t

ITP: connectagram -- a word unscrambling game

2010-05-08 Thread Tang Ke
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tang Ke * Package name: connectagram Version: 1.0.1 Upstream Authors: Graeme Gott * URL:http://gottcode.org/connectagram/ * License: GPL3 Programming Lang: C++ Description: a word unscrambling game The board consists of several scrambled word

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-08 Thread Niko Tyni
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 05:29:03PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Niko Tyni: > > > The benefits are obviously improved numeric range and precision. The > > downside is presumably increased memory usage. I have no measurement > > data on this; suggestions on suitable tests would be welcome. > >

ITP: focuswriter -- a fullscreen, distraction-free word processor

2010-05-08 Thread Tang Ke
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tang Ke * Package name: focuswriter Version: 1.2.1 Upstream Authors: Graeme Gott * URL:http://gottcode.org/focuswriter/ * License: GPL3 Programming Lang: C++ Description: a fullscreen, distraction-free word processor This program is design

Re: Dual init scripts (or two init scripts in one package)

2010-05-08 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 07:35:02PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > > > Greetings. I am curious as to how the scenario described in the below > > message would work in Debian. That is, can one package install two init > > scripts? > > Sure. A package can install as ma

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-08 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 05/07/2010 09:59 AM, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 09:47:36AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: >> Le jeudi 06 mai 2010 à 21:11 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen a écrit : >>> These days, the init.d script dependencies in Squeeze are quite >>> complete, so complete that it is actually possi

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-08 Thread Frans Pop
Niko Tyni wrote: > Can anybody list our "pure" 32-bit architectures off-hand > or suggest a simple test? AFAIK for Squeeze the arches are as follows, but please anybody correct me where incorrect. archkernel userland -- -- i3863

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 17:15:50 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > Niko Tyni wrote: > > Can anybody list our "pure" 32-bit architectures off-hand > > or suggest a simple test? > > AFAIK for Squeeze the arches are as follows, but please anybody correct me > where incorrect. > > arch kernel

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-08 Thread Luk Claes
On 05/08/2010 11:47 AM, Julien Cristau wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 19:27:54 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: (Beside the nitpick on "we want" vs "we possibly want") I'd argue that it's because we want a faster boot from our users ASAP. As far as I'm concerned, "faster boot" is irrelevant.

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-08 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2010-05-08, Frans Pop wrote: > arch kernel userland > ---- > alpha 32 32 Isn't alpha the first 64bit of all? > mips/mipsel 32 32 I think that's 32/64, 32; at least for mipsel. > sparc 32

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 08 May 2010, Julien Cristau wrote: > alpha is all 64. Shows that alpha is the arch I'm least familiar with... > and sparc kernel is 64. This I should have gotten right :-( Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". T

Re: Dual init scripts (or two init scripts in one package)

2010-05-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > So, currently the shorewall package ships debian/shorewall.init, which > is accompanied by the following debian/rules entry: > dh_installinit --no-start -u"start 40 S . stop 89 0 6 ." > If I read the dh_installinit manpage correctly, then I can ship: > debian/shore

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-08 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 03:44:03PM +, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2010-05-08, Frans Pop wrote: > > archkernel userland > > -- -- > > alpha 32 32 > > Isn't alpha the first 64bit of all? > > > mips/mipsel 3

[OSRM] Planning for final Etch point release and archiving of oldstable?

2010-05-08 Thread Frans Pop
Hi, I would have expected a final point release for Etch to have happened by now (since security support was ended back in February). My personal interest is of course the D-I updates included for that release. Could the (oldstable) release team please clarify the status and planning? TIA, FJP

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Stefano Zacchiroli] > Fair enough. IMO you've done quite a lot of communication on the matter > (at least to us developers) and I've personally been testing > CONCURRENCY=makefile in response to your repeated call for testers. At > this point, I doubt you can get significantly more testers without

Bug#580794: general: CD-rom drive is unable to read from any dvd(s) after wake up from suspend/hibernation

2010-05-08 Thread michalxo
Package: general Severity: important Tags: sid My cdrom drive is unable to read dvds/cds after suspend/hibernation. Only thing which helps is reboot. In ubuntu I had similar error, so it may be something with kernel.. :-/ (2.6.32-3 and 32-5) Thanks -- System Information: Debian Release: s

Re: bindv6only again

2010-05-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 05, Vincent Danjean wrote: > the bugs in applications. I would find very strange if we release sqeeze > with a broken sun's java (even if it is non-free) and no good replacement. Me too, but I still hope that it could be fixed. Maybe the maintainer could provide some of his toughts... --

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-08 Thread Kai Wasserbäch
Hello Petter, Petter Reinholdtsen schrieb am 08.05.2010 19:07: > Perhaps we should do a poll to collect > information on how testers experience their boot with > CONCURRENCY=makefile, [...] as one of the testers just a short reply: on several desktops and some basic servers insserv in conjunction

Re: bindv6only again

2010-05-08 Thread Niels Thykier
Marco d'Itri wrote: > On May 05, Vincent Danjean wrote: > >> the bugs in applications. I would find very strange if we release sqeeze >> with a broken sun's java (even if it is non-free) and no good replacement. > Me too, but I still hope that it could be fixed. > Maybe the maintainer could provi

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Kai Wasserbäch] > as one of the testers just a short reply: on several desktops and > some basic servers insserv in conjunction with > "CONCURRENCY=makefile" works well. I didn't have an unbootable > system so far. Thank you. Note that I do not expect an unbootable system. The worst I expect a

Re: bindv6only again

2010-05-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Niels Thykier] > I do not think the maintainers can do anything about sun-java6 other > than ask users to modify the netbase config file. To the best of my > knowledge there is no source code available for sun-java6. It could add a file in /etc/sysctl.d/ to override the current /etc/sysctl.d/bin

Re: [OSRM] Planning for final Etch point release and archiving of oldstable?

2010-05-08 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sat, May 8, 2010 18:06, Frans Pop wrote: > I would have expected a final point release for Etch to have happened by > now (since security support was ended back in February). My personal > interest is of course the D-I updates included for that release. Regrettably, sorting out etch hasn't had

Nicht im Haus bis 2010-05-28

2010-05-08 Thread marco . fisch
Ich werde ab 07.05.2010 nicht im Büro sein. Ich kehre zurück am 28.05.2010. Bin im Urlaub! Ab 2010-05-31 stehe ich Ihnen gerne wieder zur Verfügung. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Marco Fisch -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Processed (with 1 errors): Re: Bug#580794: general: CD-rom drive is unable to read from any dvd(s) after wake up from suspend/hibernation

2010-05-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > severity 580794 linux-2.6 Unknown command or malformed arguments to command. > severity 580794 normal Bug #580794 [general] general: CD-rom drive is unable to read from any dvd(s) after wake up from suspend/hibernation Severity set to 'normal' f

Bug#580814: ITP: systemd -- system and session manager

2010-05-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
Package: wnpp Owner: Tollef Fog Heen Severity: wishlist * Package name: systemd Version : 0 Upstream Author : Lennart Pottering * URL or Web page : http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd * Code: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/ * License : GPLv2+

Bug#580815: ITP: python-django-threadedcomments -- simple yet flexible threaded commenting system for Django

2010-05-08 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bernhard Reiter Package name: python-django-threadedcomments Version : 0.5.2 Upstream Author : Eric Florenzano URL : http://github.com/ericflo/django-threadedcomments License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Desc

Re: Dual init scripts (or two init scripts in one package)

2010-05-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On 05/07/2010 09:35 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Roberto C. Sánchez writes: Greetings. I am curious as to how the scenario described in the below message would work in Debian. That is, can one package install two init scripts? Sure. A package can install as many init scripts as it wants and ne

Re: bindv6only again

2010-05-08 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
On 08/05/2010 20:33, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > [Niels Thykier] >> I do not think the maintainers can do anything about sun-java6 other >> than ask users to modify the netbase config file. To the best of my >> knowledge there is no source code available for sun-java6. > > It could add a file

Re: Dual init scripts (or two init scripts in one package)

2010-05-08 Thread Vincent Danjean
On 08/05/2010 14:27, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > So, currently the shorewall package ships debian/shorewall.init, which > is accompanied by the following debian/rules entry: > > dh_installinit --no-start -u"start 40 S . stop 89 0 6 ." > > If I read the dh_installinit manpage correctly, then I can

Re: bindv6only again

2010-05-08 Thread Clint Adams
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 12:16:10AM +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote: > What if it is just installed from the tarball? Then that person is still using buggy, non-free software. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: bindv6only again

2010-05-08 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
Le samedi 08 mai 2010 à 19:25 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit : > On May 05, Vincent Danjean wrote: > > > the bugs in applications. I would find very strange if we release sqeeze > > with a broken sun's java (even if it is non-free) and no good replacement. > Me too, but I still hope that it could be

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 07, Julien Cristau wrote: > > - a decision to drop kfreebsd as a release architecture > Since 1 and 2 aren't happening, I think we should consider going with > the third option. Me too, I believe that the people interested in kfreebsd-* have had more than enough time to provide the compat

Re: bindv6only again

2010-05-08 Thread Kazuo Oishi
Vincent Danjean writes: > And I see in these threads lots of things broken (including sun java that > it used/required for lots of software not necessarily packaged in Debian) > and no visible gains for users. > > I do not understand what is the purpose to say we will wait before taking > a decisi

Processed: reassign 580794 to src:linux-2.6

2010-05-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 580794 src:linux-2.6 Bug #580794 [general] general: CD-rom drive is unable to read from any dvd(s) after wake up from suspend/hibernation Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'src:linux-2.6'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Pleas

Re: bindv6only again

2010-05-08 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
On 09/05/2010 01:45, Clint Adams wrote: > On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 12:16:10AM +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote: >> What if it is just installed from the tarball? > > Then that person is still using buggy, non-free software. Which should not prevent this person from running it, especially when a

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] (Marco d'Itri) | Removing the Essential flag from sysvinit would allow interested admins | to install upstart on their systems if they want to benefit from its | features. I am not sure how much useful it would be to also switch to | upstart by default in this scenario, I welcome other opinion