Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-31 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 31 mars 2010 à 08:18 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > I agree. dpkg-dev should not be depending on any VCS and it should not > > promote any particular VCS either. I know that git is the new black (oh, > > wait, that was something else), but I personally don't like it. And I > > es

Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org - ftpmaster.debian.org / release.d.o services disabled

2010-03-31 Thread Joerg Jaspert
>> Now, should the technician not be able to resurrect ries, our backup >> plan extends to have the disks shipped over and replace the ones >> currently in rietz. > I'm wondering if Debian has the resources (DSA, local admins and > hardware) to have a hot-swappable backup machine for ftpmaster, sin

Re: Best practices for development workstations

2010-03-31 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 30. März 2010, Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva wrote: > > squid! > > (Or any other normal http proxy. I don't recommend any apt-proxy > > solution...) > Can you explain why? apt-proxy had issues when I tried (as well as others, which I cannot rememeber now), approx iirc requires to

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 02:07:31PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > >> Package: dh-autoreconf > I'd suggest just putting this into debhelper rather than making it a > separate package. Seconded. The addons looks quite general, I don't see the point of having it in a separate package. Cheers. -- Stefan

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-31 Thread Niels Thykier
Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 31 mars 2010 à 08:18 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : >>> I agree. dpkg-dev should not be depending on any VCS and it should not >>> promote any particular VCS either. I know that git is the new black (oh, >>> wait, that was something else), but I personally d

Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org - ftpmaster.debian.org / release.d.o services disabled

2010-03-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > The only trouble this setup has is that you have a pretty huge expensive > machine always on and running, but not actually doing stuff for > 99.% of the time. And usually the support pack we ordered > provides a service that mean

Re: Best practices for development workstations

2010-03-31 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 02:44:48PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > > I'm having a bit of trouble visualizing how that works; can you spell > > out your apt settings? > > Something like this (not my exact settings): > > Package: * > Pin: release a=stable > Pin-Priority: 700 > > Package: * > Pin: releas

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-31 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Niels Thykier wrote: > That being said, I would (as it is now) actually prefer that it was > just a helper tool that from a VCS could derive a source package of > existing format. That would probably also increase the adoption rate, > since existing tools would work with thos

Bug#576006: ITP: qtwebkit -- Web content engine library for Qt

2010-03-31 Thread Fathi Boudra
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Fathi Boudra Owner: Fathi Boudra * Package name: qtwebkit Version : 2.0 Upstream Author : Apple Inc. * URL : http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/QtWebKit * License : BSD Programming Lang: C++ Description : Web content en

Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org - ftpmaster.debian.org / release.d.o services disabled

2010-03-31 Thread Simon Josefsson
Joerg Jaspert writes: >>> Now, should the technician not be able to resurrect ries, our backup >>> plan extends to have the disks shipped over and replace the ones >>> currently in rietz. >> I'm wondering if Debian has the resources (DSA, local admins and >> hardware) to have a hot-swappable back

Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org - ftpmaster.debian.org / release.d.o services disabled

2010-03-31 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 09:35:59AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > I'm wondering if Debian has the resources (DSA, local admins and > > hardware) to have a hot-swappable backup machine for ftpmaster, since > > it does go down occasionally and when it does the downtime is fairly > > disruptive to D

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-31 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:18:30AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Niels Thykier wrote: > > That being said, I would (as it is now) actually prefer that it was > > just a helper tool that from a VCS could derive a source package of > > existing format. That would probabl

Hadoop in Debian, was:Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org

2010-03-31 Thread Thomas Koch
Joerg Jaspert: > The only trouble this setup has is that you have a pretty huge expensive > machine always on and running, but not actually doing stuff for > 99.% of the time. Hadoop is now in Debian: http://packages.qa.debian.org/h/hadoop.html Hadoop is an Open Source implementatio

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 02:07:31PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > >>   Description     : debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after > >> the build > >> > >> Package: dh-autoreconf > > I'd suggest just putting this into debhe

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-31 Thread James Vega
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 08:47:28PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:18:30AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Niels Thykier wrote: > > > That being said, I would (as it is now) actually prefer that it was > > > just a helper tool that from a VCS

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 03:13:14PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > Paul Wise wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Julian Andres Klode > > wrote: > > > >>> Description : debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up > >>> after the build > >>> > >>> Package: dh-autoreconf > > > > I

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > >>> Description : debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after >>> the build >>> >>> Package: dh-autoreconf > > I'd suggest just putting this into debhelper rather than making it a > separate packag

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
Julian Andres Klode wrote: > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 03:13:14PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: >> Paul Wise wrote: >>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Julian Andres Klode >>> wrote: >>> > Description : debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up > after the build > > Pack

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Mittwoch, den 31.03.2010, 15:45 +0200 schrieb Mehdi Dogguy: > Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 03:13:14PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > >> Paul Wise wrote: > >>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Julian Andres Klode > >>> wrote: > >>> > > Description : debhelper a

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 03:45:14PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 03:13:14PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > >> Paul Wise wrote: > >>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Julian Andres Klode > >>> wrote: > >>> > > Description : debhelper ad

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Vincent Danjean
On 31/03/2010 15:45, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > I do use autoreconf and I don't have these changes in my diff. Do you remove the modified files in your clean target ? (removed files will be ignored when creating the diff but you need to list them explicitely in debian/rules: this is what I do current

Bug#576018: ITP: narval -- An Ada framework for Distributed Acquisition Systems

2010-03-31 Thread xavier
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: xavier * Package name: narval Version : 1.10.1 Upstream Author : Xavier Grave * URL : http://narval.in2p3.fr * License : GPL v2+ Programming Lang: Ada Description : An Ada framework for Distributed Acquisition S

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > IMO, a backup/restore script (where you specify the list of files to > > backup) may be more useful. It would be called before build and when > > cleaning. > I don't think so, it requires you to keep track of the files > and you may miss some. O

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
Julian Andres Klode wrote: > A 'debuild; debuild' should have a different result than a single > debuild then. If you build from a clean directory, the first build > will contain no changes. But after the build, the directory is not > clean anymore and debian/rules clean does not do enough to keep

Bug#576029: ITP: angband-audio -- Non-free sound files for the angband game

2010-03-31 Thread Chris Carr
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Chris Carr * Package name: angband-audio Version : 3.1.0 Upstream Author : Dubtrain * URL : http://www.dubtrain.com/angband * License : CC BY-NC-SA Programming Lang: n/a Description : Non-free sound files for th

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-31 Thread Niels Thykier
Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 02:03:09PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >>[...] >> In the general case, switching is a small effort for sure, but in the case >> pointed out by Neil (he won't convert packages with no patches because he >> doesn't see the benefit) the effort is almos

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 04:46:00PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > A 'debuild; debuild' should have a different result than a single > > debuild then. If you build from a clean directory, the first build > > will contain no changes. But after the build, the directory is

Advice needed on howto take care about /usr/share/pyshared/scikits

2010-03-31 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Dear Debianizers, NB. I have asked similar question at debian-python [1] but had no replies, so re-posting to -devel now I am ITPing python-scikits-learn and possibly few other python-scikits-* packages in the future. All of the packages would have 1 peculiarity, they all would rely on havin

Re: Hadoop in Debian, was:Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org

2010-03-31 Thread Obey Arthur Liu
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Thomas Koch wrote: > Joerg Jaspert: > >> The only trouble this setup has is that you have a pretty huge expensive >> machine always on and running, but not actually doing stuff for >> 99.% of the time. > > > Hadoop is now in Debian: http://packages.qa

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
Julian Andres Klode wrote: > A backup and restore approach is a completely different and more > complicated (in I/O sense) way than just deleting the files; e.g. > for a single file: > … except that they do not operate on the same set of files. dh_backup's list would be a lot smaller than dh_auto

Bug#576079: ITP: ngsolve -- Finite Element Library on top of Netgen

2010-03-31 Thread trophime
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: trophime * Package name: ngsolve Version : 4.9.12 Upstream Authors : Joachim Schöberl et al. * URL : http://www.mathcces.rwth-aachen.de/netgen/doku.php * License : LGPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : Finite

Bug#576080: general: missing ftp://ftp.upload.debian.org/pub/UploadQueue/README

2010-03-31 Thread Osamu Aoki
Package: general Severity: normal We have moved UploadQueue to: ftp://ftp.upload.debian.org/pub/UploadQueue/ But new URL is missing ftp://ftp.upload.debian.org/pub/UploadQueue/README Thus poliy document has missing link. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian

Re: Best practices for development workstations

2010-03-31 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
Hi, On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 07:03:00PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > 2a. pbuilder > > pbuilder, or some other chroot such as schroot, can help. In theory, it > is a good plan. I don't have to dedicate a lot of RAM to it. The > problem is that a chroot doesn't establish terribly strict separation

Re: Best practices for development workstations

2010-03-31 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Filippo Giunchedi] > pbuilder sets up /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d to exit 101 so if a daemon > starts out of your control (e.g. with /etc/init.d/ start) you > have found a bug somewhere in a package, no? I've not seen daemons > randomly starting lately. Well, one point of a non-sid system with a sid c

Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org - ftpmaster.debian.org / release.d.o services disabled

2010-03-31 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Replying to three in one. >> Well, this would mean: >> a) double ftpmaster. Just as a rough number, the new machine that is >>currently "in progress" has an estimated cost of 2 Dollar (if you >>take prices from HP Website. This is not what it will cost in the >>end, but it shows w

Bug#576088: ITP: libphp-swiftmailer -- component-based library for sending e-mails

2010-03-31 Thread Nicolas Roudaire
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Nicolas Roudaire Owner: Nicolas Roudaire * Package name: libphp-swiftmailer Version : 4.0.6 Upstream Author : Chris Corbyn * URL : http://swiftmailer.org/ * License : LGPL Programming Lang: PHP Description : com

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Axel Beckert
Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > Is there any advantage to have it packaged? > > > > AIUI, you have to add a build-dependency anyway and change at least one > > line in the debian/rules to call dh-autoreconf. Well, that line could > > simply call autoreconf (or whatever) which even makes debian/rule

Re: Best practices for development workstations

2010-03-31 Thread Simon Paillard
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 08:46:01AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Dienstag, 30. März 2010, Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva wrote: > > > squid! > > > (Or any other normal http proxy. I don't recommend any apt-proxy > > > solution...) > > Can you explain why? > > apt-proxy had issues when I tried (as

Processed: reassign 576080 to ftp.debian.org

2010-03-31 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 576080 ftp.debian.org Bug #576080 [general] general: missing ftp://ftp.upload.debian.org/pub/UploadQueue/README Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'ftp.debian.org'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need

Re: Hadoop in Debian, was:Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org

2010-03-31 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Obey Arthur Liu said: > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Thomas Koch wrote: > > > > I believe, but can't know for sure, that everything what FTP-Master does, > > could be implemented on top of hadoop. > > However it means for sure a lot of work and many hardcore sysadm

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-31 Thread Jens Peter Secher
On 30 March 2010 16:46, Sven Mueller wrote: > My main reason for not yet switching is that hg-buildpackage and > svn-buildpackage don't completely support the 3.0 format yet as far as I > can tell. You can try out mercurial-buildpackage, where I have tried to support "3.0 (quilt)" as good as I co

Bug#576128: ITP: otcl -- an extension to Tcl/Tk for object-oriented programming

2010-03-31 Thread syq
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: syq * Package name: otcl Version : 1.13 Upstream Author : David Wetherall d...@lcs.mit.edu * URL : http://otcl-tclcl.sourceforge.net/otcl/ * License : BSD, MIT/X Programming Lang: C, TCL Description : an extensi