Re: Bug#473354: ITP: winhardware -- hardware summary report from a Win32 host

2008-03-30 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Joel Franco wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Joel Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > * Package name: winhardware > Version : 0.0.14 > Upstream Author : Joel Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : Not yet > * License : GPL > Programming Lang: s

Should we have two versions of Boost in the archive?

2008-03-30 Thread Steve M. Robbins
Hello, A new version (1.35) of the Boost library collection was released yesterday. I'd like to get it packaged for Debian ASAP. The question is: whether to simply replace the existing version (1.34.1) as we have always done, or to have the old and new both available in the library? In the past

Re: Bug#473354: ITP: winhardware -- hardware summary report from a Win32 host

2008-03-30 Thread Joel Franco
On Sun 30 Mar 08 14:38, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: >Joel Franco wrote: >> Package: wnpp >> Severity: wishlist >> Owner: Joel Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> * Package name: winhardware >> Version : 0.0.14 >> Upstream Author : Joel Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> * URL : No

Re: Should we have two versions of Boost in the archive?

2008-03-30 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 05:22:45PM +, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > Hello, > > A new version (1.35) of the Boost library collection was released > yesterday. I'd like to get it packaged for Debian ASAP. You're aware that we're trying to release and that you shouldn't upload things you are not

Re: Bug#473354: ITP: winhardware -- hardware summary report from a Win32 host

2008-03-30 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 14:26:48 -0300, Joel Franco wrote: > I would to hear others opinions about your opinion. > I don't think adding a package for a simple shell script makes any sense. Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: Bug#473354: ITP: winhardware -- hardware summary report from a Win32 host

2008-03-30 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Hi, > I have no relationship with the wmi-client package nor knows the > mainteiner. To agree with your opinion, i should work close to that > mantainer and this could make the work a lot harder in the mean that i > have to commnuicate with him. uh, ntot really. You've just sent him an email ;) T

Re: [pkg-boost-devel] Should we have two versions of Boost in the archive?

2008-03-30 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 07:38:14PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 05:22:45PM +, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > > Hello, > > > > A new version (1.35) of the Boost library collection was released > > yesterday. I'd like to get it packaged for Debian ASAP. > > You're aware

Re: [pkg-boost-devel] Should we have two versions of Boost in the archive?

2008-03-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 02:59:07PM -0500, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > Unfortunately, this is not the case. Boost is not guaranteeing ABI > compatibility across releases, i.e. from 1.34 to 1.35. So don't read > this as "major.minor" in the traditional sense. The SONAME has the > complete version in

triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Joey Hess
dpkg in experimental supports triggers now, and in many cases trigger support can be added to packages without creating a hard dependency on a new version of dpkg. Things I want to see use triggers, in approximate priority order: - scrollkeeper This is a huge speed pig, and d-i has hacks

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun March 30 2008 13:25:15 Joey Hess wrote: > dpkg in experimental supports triggers now THANK YOU IAN for persisting with triggers despite the tedious delays by blistering incompetents. And thanks Joey for the interesting use cases. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, Mike Bird wrote: > On Sun March 30 2008 13:25:15 Joey Hess wrote: > > dpkg in experimental supports triggers now > > THANK YOU IAN for persisting with triggers despite the tedious delays by > blistering incompetents. And thanks Joey for the interesting use cases. Ian has not

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 08:25:15PM +, Joey Hess wrote: > - update-menus > Run by zillions of postinsts and postrms, many of these can be > gotten rid of entirely by using triggers, which is a big > complexity win. > I have written a patch for initial trigger support in

Re: [pkg-boost-devel] Should we have two versions of Boost in the archive?

2008-03-30 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 07:59:07PM +, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 07:38:14PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 05:22:45PM +, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > > > The question is: whether to simply replace the existing version > > > (1.34.1) as we have

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Amaya
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > And thanks to Guillem for doing the work despite the unfriendly atmosphere > that some managed to create. Ditto. -- ·''`. A waste is a terrible thing to mind! : :' : `. `' `-Proudly running (unstable) Debian GNU/Linux

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Michael Biebl
Joey Hess wrote: > dpkg in experimental supports triggers now, and in many cases trigger > support can be added to packages without creating a hard dependency on > a new version of dpkg. > > Things I want to see use triggers, in approximate priority order: [..] > - update-icon-caches > - update-

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Hubert Chathi
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:25:15 -0400, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > dpkg in experimental supports triggers now, and in many cases trigger > support can be added to packages without creating a hard dependency on > a new version of dpkg. Yay! > Things I want to see use triggers, in approxima

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Joey Hess
Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 08:25:15PM +, Joey Hess wrote: > > - update-menus > > Run by zillions of postinsts and postrms, many of these can be > > gotten rid of entirely by using triggers, which is a big > > complexity win. > > I have written a patch for

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, Joey Hess wrote: > Things I want to see use triggers, in approximate priority order: > > - scrollkeeper > This is a huge speed pig, and d-i has hacks to disable it and > run it at the end that I would love to be able to remove. > dpkg's triggers.txt has a plan for triggeriz

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Michael Biebl
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Michael Biebl] >> - insserv/update-rc.d >> Looks like a possible candidate too (without knowing much about >> triggers). I have to add, that I don't know much about insserv either ;-) > > I doubt it, as boot script updates need to be done in dependency > order, and

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Michael Biebl] > - insserv/update-rc.d > Looks like a possible candidate too (without knowing much about > triggers). I doubt it, as boot script updates need to be done in dependency order, and reject the package if installing a script would introduce a loop, but am open for explanations showing

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Joey Hess
Rene Engelhard wrote: > Maybe also fc-cache calls? I don't have many of those here, but if desired I think it could be made to use triggers, yes. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Joey Hess
Hubert Chathi wrote: > > Things I want to see use triggers, in approximate priority order: > > [... snip very nice list ...] > > How about defoma? fontconfig? defoma-app and defoma-font act on a specific application/font that is being installed/removed. Converting this kind of thing to use trig

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Joey Hess
Michael Biebl wrote: > > - update-icon-caches > > - update-desktop-database > > These are not very slow, nor used by a great many packages, > > but triggerizing them would allow getting rid of dh_icons and > > dh_desktop eventually, which I would appreciate. > > Sounds interesting. >

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Cyril Brulebois
On 30/03/2008, Michael Biebl wrote: > I don't understand, why it shouldn't be possible, that a single > update-rc.insserv run, reoders *all* init scripts in one go. You could > still skip the ones, which will cause loops or have no dependency > information. I guess the algo is currently “there's n

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2008-03-30, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --0IvGJv3f9h+YhkrH > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Michael Biebl wrote: >> > - update-icon-caches >> > - update-desktop-database >> >These are not

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun March 30 2008 14:01:33 Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, Mike Bird wrote: > > THANK YOU IAN for persisting with triggers despite the tedious delays by > > blistering incompetents. And thanks Joey for the interesting use cases. > > Ian has nothing to do with the experimental uplo

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Michael Biebl may or may not have written... > Joey Hess wrote: >> dpkg in experimental supports triggers now, and in many cases trigger >> support can be added to packages without creating a hard dependency on a >> new version of dpkg. >> Things I want to see use triggers, in approx

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Robert Collins
On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 00:54 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > On 30/03/2008, Michael Biebl wrote: > > I don't understand, why it shouldn't be possible, that a single > > update-rc.insserv run, reoders *all* init scripts in one go. You could > > still skip the ones, which will cause loops or have no d

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Joey Hess
Suggested off-list: update-grub I agree that this would be nice. Particularly if many old kernel packages are removed, the multiple update-grub calls become annying. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Michael Biebl
Sune Vuorela wrote: >> Michael Biebl wrote: - update-icon-caches - update-desktop-database These are not very slow, nor used by a great many packages, but triggerizing them would allow getting rid of dh_icons and=20 dh_desktop eventually, which I would appreciate.

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Michael Biebl
Joey Hess wrote: > Suggested off-list: update-grub > > I agree that this would be nice. Particularly if many old kernel > packages are removed, the multiple update-grub calls become annying. > Add update-initramfs to that list. It can take quite some time to regenerate the initramfs. Packages th

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Joey Hess
Michael Biebl wrote: > [1] Will changes to subdirectories (e.g /usr/share/applications/kde) > also lead to a trigger The docs don't seem to say, but my tests show that registering interest does cause trigger updates for files in subdirs. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signatu

Re: Bug#473354: ITP: winhardware -- hardware summary report from a Win32 host

2008-03-30 Thread Joel Franco
Hi Bernd, I didn't know about Zenoss, but after visit the site and the wikipedia, i understand why the wmi-client is part of the infracstructure. It appears to be a great software, i will try it to manage my more than 30 servers from my clients. About the inclusion of winhardware in the wmi-clien

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - ldconfig > Seems to be some uncertainty about where it's possible to > triggerize this safely and reliably. Ubuntu seems to have managed it OK? I imagine it would be a gain for slower systems too? Before t

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Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Michael Biebl] > I don't understand, why it shouldn't be possible, that a single > update-rc.insserv run, reoders *all* init scripts in one go. You > could still skip the ones, which will cause loops or have no > dependency information. Well, there are two things that need to be done as insserv w