How to express bullet lists

2008-02-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello, some quick look into the packages files I found out that (at least) four different ways to notate bullet lists in long descriptions. Developers us '-', '+', '*' or '=' signs to mark the beginning of some list (that whould have been an \begin{itemize} in LaTeX or in HTML). The intention a

Re: Bootstrapping GT.M

2008-02-17 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Andreas Tille] > Hi, > > I'm just forewarding the answer of upstream about the possibilities > for the bootstrapping process ... > > Any comments? I would suggest you ask upstream to include a set of generated files in the upstream tarball, to make it possible to bootstrap the tarball using a C

Re: How to express bullet lists

2008-02-17 Thread Simon Huggins
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 09:22:17AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > On the other hand > http://packages.debian.org/sid/ht > is perfectly formatted on the web pages. It seems to be according > to the fact that parts of the description where a line starts with > two spaces are wrapped into tags

two dpkg-instances / invoking module-assistant on kernel-upgrade

2008-02-17 Thread Patrick Scharrenberg
Hi! I just asked in debian-dpkg, but think it better fits here. I built a source-package for module-assistant for a driver needed on boot. Now I'm searching for a way to re-invoke module-assistant on kernel-upgrades. My first try was to add a hook to initramfs-tools that launches module-ass

Re: Idea for package name instead of "build" (ITP)

2008-02-17 Thread David Bremner
> "Michael" == Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> Since it seems to generate makefiles, I suggest Automake :-) >> >> But, slightly more seriously "mentioning" Gnu Make might also >> be a possibility: e.g. gmbuild or mkbuild or makebuild or >> mfbuild.

Debian mirror CDN had launched.

2008-02-17 Thread ARAKI Yasuhiro
Hi all, I am a member of debian mirror administration team in Japan. I announce I start cdn.debian.net. At 2008-Feb-05, we had started "cdn.debian.org" on global Debian Mirrors. This CDN checks your hosts DNS query to retrive your national location. - If your located country has Debian Mirror,

Re: two dpkg-instances / invoking module-assistant on kernel-upgrade

2008-02-17 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 11:26 +0100, Patrick Scharrenberg wrote: > So, what is the best practice to recompile kernel-modules on > kernel-upgrades? > Any thoughts? What about postinst_hook in /etc/kernel-img.conf ? manpage say's "... A script to be executed during installation after all the symboli

Re: two dpkg-instances / invoking module-assistant on kernel-upgrade

2008-02-17 Thread Patrick Scharrenberg
Franklin PIAT schrieb: On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 11:26 +0100, Patrick Scharrenberg wrote: So, what is the best practice to recompile kernel-modules on kernel-upgrades? What about postinst_hook in /etc/kernel-img.conf ? manpage say's "... A script to be executed during installation after all

Re: two dpkg-instances / invoking module-assistant on kernel-upgrade

2008-02-17 Thread sean finney
On Sunday 17 February 2008 12:11:18 pm Franklin PIAT wrote: > On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 11:26 +0100, Patrick Scharrenberg wrote: > > So, what is the best practice to recompile kernel-modules on > > kernel-upgrades? > > > > Any thoughts? > > What about postinst_hook in /etc/kernel-img.conf ? > manpage s

Re: Debian mirror CDN had launched.

2008-02-17 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO En cette fin de matinée radieuse du dimanche 17 février 2008, vers 11:53, ARAKI Yasuhiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait: > Technology and Codes: > At first, CDN find requester IP's location by Max-mind DB. > Max-mind DB is same DB file for geoip-bin.deb package. > At 2nd, CDN checks nati

Re: Debian mirror CDN had launched.

2008-02-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 01:08:39PM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote: > > I just try with host: > cdn.debian.net is an alias for deb.cdn.araki.net. > deb.cdn.araki.net has address 61.115.118.67 > deb.cdn.araki.net has address 133.5.166.3 > deb.cdn.araki.net has address 133.5.166.3 > deb.cdn.araki.net ha

Re: Bootstrapping GT.M

2008-02-17 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: I would suggest you ask upstream to include a set of generated files in the upstream tarball, to make it possible to bootstrap the tarball using a C compiler instead of requiring a M compiler. It could then as the normal build first build the M co

Re: Debian mirror CDN had launched.

2008-02-17 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO Peu avant le début de l'après-midi du dimanche 17 février 2008, vers 13:58, William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait: >> 61.115.118.67 is ftp.de.debian.org. I am located in France with an >> IP address of one of the largest ISP here. This ISP is hosting an >> official Debian mirror. > 6

Re: Debian mirror CDN had launched.

2008-02-17 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO Peu avant le début de l'après-midi du dimanche 17 février 2008, vers 13:46, Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait: > 61.115.118.67 is hanzubin.st.wakwak.ne.jp. I think the whole lists > you show there are Japanese servers. ftp.de.debian.org is 141.76.2.4 > which is the one I get while being

Re: Bootstrapping GT.M

2008-02-17 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Andreas Tille] > Well, if I understood K.S. Bhaskar's last mail right this might be > possible in theory but would require a certain amount of extra work > for them which they are not willing to do because it has no profit > for their work. I only read that they were against spending time to wri

Re: How to express bullet lists

2008-02-17 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008, Simon Huggins wrote: Yes. http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Description The others are probably bugs then. Do you have a list to name and shame? Ahh- shame on my first for missing this. ;-) For a quick shot I used: grep -B13 -A1 "^ [^

Re: Debian mirror CDN had launched.

2008-02-17 Thread ARAKI Yasuhiro
Hi Vincent, Thank you for your testing. Do you like cdn.debian.net's idea and implementation? I would like you to notice your impression for cdn.debian.net to me! If possible, I hope you to update EU/Fr mirror list for cdn.debian.net in near future. (please see last part of this mail..) At Sun,

Re: Debian mirror CDN had launched.

2008-02-17 Thread Michal Čihař
Dne Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:46:47 +0100 Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napsal(a): > On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 01:08:39PM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote: > > > > I just try with host: > > cdn.debian.net is an alias for deb.cdn.araki.net. > > deb.cdn.araki.net has address 61.115.118.67 > > deb.cdn.araki.ne

Re: Debian mirror CDN had launched.

2008-02-17 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 13:08 +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote: > 61.115.118.67 is ftp.de.debian.org. I am located in France with an > IP > address of one of the largest ISP here. This ISP is hosting an > official > Debian mirror. 61.115.118.67 is assigned to ASNIC, so there is no possible way i

Re: Debian mirror CDN had launched.

2008-02-17 Thread Leo "costela" Antunes
[No need to CC me, I'm subscribed. Keeping the other CCs since I don't know about their subscription status.] Hi ARAKI Yasuhiro wrote: > I announce I start cdn.debian.net. You could have announced work on this before, we could have joined forces! :-) But I wonder, how do you guys deal with pa

Re: Standardisation of the name of the patching targets included in debian/rules.

2008-02-17 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear developpers, following the discussion on patch systems and standardisation, here is the wishlist but I sent to the cdbs package. (#466259) I hope that it can lead to some progress… Have a nice day, -- Charles Plessy - Forwarded message from Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Da

Re: dpatch -> quilt

2008-02-17 Thread Loïc Minier
On Sat, Feb 16, 2008, David Paleino wrote: > > We’ve always done this way in pkg-gnome’s SVN, keeping only debian/ > > directories, while using simple-patchsys, dpatch, dbs (muahaha) and now > > standardizing on quilt. > > ... and? Something's missing: do you use svn-do? I wrote it for pkg-gnome

Re: Debian mirror CDN had launched.

2008-02-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 03:35:08PM +0100, Leo costela Antunes wrote: > [No need to CC me, I'm subscribed. Keeping the other CCs since I don't > know about their subscription status.] > > Hi > > ARAKI Yasuhiro wrote: > > I announce I start cdn.debian.net. > > You could have announced work on th

Request for comment: a new software to manage linux networking features

2008-02-17 Thread namnd
Dear Debian developers, My team have been developing a software for my company since 2004, now I have plan to release it to the public, hopefully in an open source license if the management board doesn't object. So I need the peer reviews from the community of the quality of the software, if it

Re: Meaning of the "Altering package upload rules"

2008-02-17 Thread Raphael Geissert
Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080215 11:46]: >> On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 09:42:47AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >> > This is a very good idea, but the reason why source-only uploads are >> > not allowed is that there are concerns that if the binary package is

Re: Request for comment: a new software to manage linux networking features

2008-02-17 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 17 Februar 2008 schrieb namnd: > In this case, the configuration is as easy as: > >   password="***"/> >   > The ppp stanza should not contain authentication information. Especially since username/password only covers the most simple authentication method. And other parts could us

Re: Debian mirror CDN had launched.

2008-02-17 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 03:35:08PM +0100, Leo costela Antunes wrote: > > - If your located continent has Debian Mirror, return this mirror > > site IP address. > > I don't think this is a good logic for many situations. > For instance: Brazil is in South America, but it doesn't have good links >

Re: How to express bullet lists

2008-02-17 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 09:17:44 +, Simon Huggins wrote: > On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 09:22:17AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > > On the other hand > > http://packages.debian.org/sid/ht > > > is perfectly formatted on the web pages. It seems to be according > > to the fact that parts of the d

Re: Request for comment: a new software to manage linux networking features

2008-02-17 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 11:20:48PM +0700, namnd wrote: > > * The configuration file is in XML so netupdown can handle sophisticated > configuration. Editing the XML the configuration by hand or by software > will be easy and comfortable. Forgive me, but "yeah right!" Have you ever actually edi

Re: Request for comment: a new software to manage linux networking features

2008-02-17 Thread namnd
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: * The configuration file is in XML so netupdown can handle sophisticated configuration. Editing the XML the configuration by hand or by software will be easy and comfortable. Forgive me, but "yeah right!" Have you ever actually edited XML by hand? Try tweaking a

Re: Request for comment: a new software to manage linux networking features

2008-02-17 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 11:20:48PM +0700, namnd wrote: > * The configuration file is in XML so netupdown can handle sophisticated > configuration. Editing the XML the configuration by hand or by software > will be easy and comfortable. Editing XML by hand "easy and comfortable"?!? In which wo

Re: Request for comment: a new software to manage linux networking features

2008-02-17 Thread namnd
Hendrik Sattler wrote: Am Sonntag 17 Februar 2008 schrieb namnd: In this case, the configuration is as easy as: The ppp stanza should not contain authentication information. Especially since username/password only covers the most simple authentication method. And other parts co

Re: Proposed MBF: Debian upstream version higher than watch file-reported upstream version

2008-02-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday 17 February 2008 15:41, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Hello all, > > [Please respect the Reply-To header] > > In order to bring some more QA on the watch files subject I'd like to start > a permanent MBF on packages whose Debian upstream version (the version > string from Version: without the

Proposed MBF: Debian upstream version higher than watch file-reported upstream version

2008-02-17 Thread Raphael Geissert
Hello all, [Please respect the Reply-To header] In order to bring some more QA on the watch files subject I'd like to start a permanent MBF on packages whose Debian upstream version (the version string from Version: without the epoch and the Debian revision) is higher than the latest upstream

Re: Request for comment: a new software to manage linux networking features

2008-02-17 Thread namnd
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: It is part of the base system. And people will have to manipulate it even when the web interface is not available. Think of using globs and stats. Also think of creative usages of symlinks. Well, I guess that it is up to me to "think" (demonstrate fisibility) here. Otherwise

Re: Proposed MBF: Debian upstream version higher than watch file-reported upstream version

2008-02-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, On Sun, 17 Feb 2008, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Rationale: the watch files are meant to keep track of upstream and if there's > a newer version not being reported by the watch file it means that it needs > to be fixed. > > Please note that this situation often occurs when the maintainer

Re: Debian mirror CDN had launched.

2008-02-17 Thread Leo "costela" Antunes
Kurt Roeckx wrote: > And it looks to me like the mirror should also be available via > "/debian". Oh-oh... I hadn't thought about this problem too. Well, I guess it's something that could be asked of the local mirror-admin. If they want their mirror to be a part of the automatic rotation they cou

Re: Proposed MBF: Debian upstream version higher than watch file-reported upstream version

2008-02-17 Thread Raphael Geissert
Hello, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello, > > On Sun, 17 Feb 2008, Raphael Geissert wrote: >> Rationale: the watch files are meant to keep track of upstream and if >> there's a newer version not being reported by the watch file it means >> that it needs to be fixed. >> >> Please note that this situ

Re: Proposed MBF: Debian upstream version higher than watch file-reported upstream version

2008-02-17 Thread Raphael Geissert
Wesley J. Landaker wrote: > On Sunday 17 February 2008 13:41:34 Raphael Geissert wrote: >> If nobody objects I'll start filling (in an automated way since there are >> no false positives) reports on the 307 source packages which report a >> Debian upstream version higher than Upstream version by t

Re: Proposed MBF: Debian upstream version higher than watch file-reported upstream version

2008-02-17 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Sunday 17 February 2008 13:41:34 Raphael Geissert wrote: > If nobody objects I'll start filling (in an automated way since there are > no false positives) reports on the 307 source packages which report a > Debian upstream version higher than Upstream version by the watch file. I don't know wha

Re: Proposed MBF: Debian upstream version higher than watch file-reported upstream version

2008-02-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday 17 February 2008 17:22, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Sunday 17 February 2008 15:41, Raphael Geissert wrote: > >> Please note that this situation often occurs when the maintainer didn't > >> make the watch file strip some +VCSrevN that was added to the Debian

Re: Proposed MBF: Debian upstream version higher than watch file-reported upstream version

2008-02-17 Thread Raphael Geissert
Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Sunday 17 February 2008 15:41, Raphael Geissert wrote: >> >> Please note that this situation often occurs when the maintainer didn't >> make the watch file strip some +VCSrevN that was added to the Debian >> Version. >> >> If nobody objects I'll start filling (in an

Re: Debian mirror CDN had launched.

2008-02-17 Thread Yasuhiro Araki
Hi, On 2/18/08, Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 03:35:08PM +0100, Leo costela Antunes wrote: > > [No need to CC me, I'm subscribed. Keeping the other CCs since I don't > > know about their subscription status.] > > > > Hi > > > > ARAKI Yasuhiro wrote: > > > I ann

Re: Bootstrapping GT.M

2008-02-17 Thread Mirco Bauer
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 09:57 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > There are three things you can do: > > 1) Do nothing. > > Once you have packages GT.M Debian will have a GT.M and you can > Build-Depend on it for future builds. > > Big problem with this approach is that if the GT.M package ever b

Re: Proposed MBF: Debian upstream version higher than watch file-reported upstream version

2008-02-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Geissert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In order to bring some more QA on the watch files subject I'd like to > start a permanent MBF on packages whose Debian upstream version (the > version string from Version: without the epoch and the Debian revision) > is higher than the latest upstream

Re: Proposed MBF: Debian upstream version higher than watch file-reported upstream version

2008-02-17 Thread Raphael Geissert
Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Sunday 17 February 2008 17:22, Raphael Geissert wrote: >> >> If Debian's 0.11+1-1 is upstream's 0.11 why not just strip the '+1' using >> dversionmangle? >> That's in my POV the bug. >> > I think rewriting watch files for one time events is a mistake. If this > were > a

Proposed MBF: packages defining useless RPATH's

2008-02-17 Thread Raphael Geissert
Hello everybody, [Please respect the Reply-To header] More than one month ago I posted a list[1] of packages defining useless rpath's on amd64 based on an archive wide lintian check. I just finished an other archive wide lintian check in order to track the progress made on the subject. Here are

Re: Proposed MBF: Debian upstream version higher than watch file-reported upstream version

2008-02-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:55:26 -0600 Raphael Geissert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Scott Kitterman wrote: >> On Sunday 17 February 2008 17:22, Raphael Geissert wrote: >>> >>> If Debian's 0.11+1-1 is upstream's 0.11 why not just strip the '+1' using >>> dversionmangle? >>> That's in my POV the bug. >

Re: Proposed MBF: Debian upstream version higher than watch file-reported upstream version

2008-02-17 Thread Raphael Geissert
Russ Allbery wrote: > Raphael Geissert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>gnubg > > Upstream stopped doing real releases a while back although hopefully will > again do some someday. Currently, all that's available is nightly > snapshots. I can: > > * Keep

Re: Proposed MBF: Debian upstream version higher than watch file-reported upstream version

2008-02-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Geissert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> Upstream stopped doing real releases a while back although hopefully >> will again do some someday. Currently, all that's available is nightly >> snapshots. I can: >> >> * Keep pointing the watch file at the actual official re

Intent to hijack gtkglext

2008-02-17 Thread William Pitcock
Hello, The current maintainer of gtkglext has not been maintaining the package since 2004. The last upload was in 2006 to fix an NMU, which has not been acknowledged yet. The current package is two major versions out of date (1.0 vs 1.2). I need a newer version of gtkglext for various projects I

Re: Debian mirror CDN had launched.

2008-02-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Feb 18, 2008 8:49 AM, Yasuhiro Araki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because cdn.d.n uses DNS query only. Then cdn.d.n can not detect architecture. > If possible, we can make CDN for each architecture (cf. cdn-i386.d.n). Already solved, see: -geomirror.debian.net Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Marcelo E. Magallon seems to be MIA

2008-02-17 Thread William Pitcock
Hello, Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> appears to be MIA, and most of his packages have been NMU'd. You may want to consider orphaning them. I have prepared an upload for gtkglext, so that one can be considered under my maintainership "really soon now". William signature.asc Descriptio

Re: Request for comment: a new software to manage linux networking features

2008-02-17 Thread Brian May
> "namnd" == namnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: namnd> To be short, I consider my software "an evolution of ifupdown", so the namnd> main part is called "netupdown", the purpose of this software is to namnd> use on corporate internet gateway, the main features of the software: Ha

Re: Request for comment: a new software to manage linux networking features

2008-02-17 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach namnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.02.17.1720 +0100]: > My team have been developing a software for my company since 2004, > now I have plan to release it to the public, hopefully in an open > source license if the management board doesn't object. So I need > the peer reviews from the c

Re: LTP Kernel DUMP Test Cases for Community Distro(s)

2008-02-17 Thread Subrata Modak
> Hi Subrata, > > On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 14:07 +0530, Subrata Modak wrote: > > Can somebody direct me to the appropriate mailing list, where this can > > be taken forward ? > > > > For Debian, the kdump automation support seems is still not in place > yet. In order to run this test suite, a user

Re: Request for comment: a new software to manage linux networking features

2008-02-17 Thread namnd
Hello Martin, Hello Nam, I am the author of netconf (http://netconf.alioth.debian.org), which Brian has already introduced in another post to this thread. I am very interested in your work because all the issues you highlight in your mail are core to my motivations for writing netconf. You are

Re: two dpkg-instances / invoking module-assistant on kernel-upgrade

2008-02-17 Thread Philippe Cloutier
So, what is the best practice to recompile kernel-modules on kernel-upgrades? The current best practice is definitely to rely on users' memory :S See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=299727 for some discussion about this. A few hacky ideas were proposed. I don't expect to see a

Bug#466342: ITP: gmyth -- library for accessing MythTV backends

2008-02-17 Thread Mario Limonciello
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mario Limonciello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: gmyth Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : Alexsandro Jose Virginio dos Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hallyson Luiz de Morais Melo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Leonardo Sobral Cunha <[EMAIL PROTECTE

meena rawat wants to chat

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Re: Request for comment: a new software to manage linux networking features

2008-02-17 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On lun, 2008-02-18 at 06:49 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > You are asking us to evaluate the quality of a software based only > on the descriptions you provide. There was a link to the source code in the initial mail too. Cheers, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally s

Re: Proposed MBF: Debian upstream version higher than watch file-reported upstream version

2008-02-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Ack, what about only reporting (thus in a non automated way) on those which > are not affected by any repackaging/similar version part? It's might be acceptable but I'm not sure either. Some packages have development version packaged and those develop

Re: Request for comment: a new software to manage linux networking features

2008-02-17 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.02.18.0843 +0100]: > I really want to look at it, even though I am bad at Perl. Please > try to release it. I am tempted to ask you to show it to me > beforehand under a non-disclosure agreement, but then I might have > difficulty keeping netcon

Re: Request for comment: a new software to manage linux networking features

2008-02-17 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach namnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.02.18.0750 +0100]: > - I have posted a full example of internal state on the first email. > Runtime state contains info about interfaces, about networks running on > those interfaces, routes running on those networks, and multipath routes > using th