On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 01:05:56AM -0400, Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I agree that it would be nice if ifplugd or laptop-net were installed
> by default, but last I checked Debian didn't install either by
> default, either. So what's your point?
Aren't they part of the laptop task,
> "Adeodato" == Adeodato <"=?utf-8?B?U2ltw7M=?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> writes:
Robert> Could you please run 'bzr upgrade' while using bzr
Robert> 0.9rc1. If my guess at your situation is right this will
Robert> take a while to run, but correct your performance issues.
>
On Aug 27, Daniel Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know previously I said I thought that firmware didn't matter for
> freeness, but I've been convinced by the arguments here that I was
> wrong. Anyway, what I really wanted to say is that as a user (who
> hopes to get time to contribute, m
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 11:09:39PM -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote:
> I know previously I said I thought that firmware didn't matter for
> freeness, but I've been convinced by the arguments here that I was
> wrong. Anyway, what I really wanted to say is [...]
I don't think this is on-topic on debia
Am Sonntag 27 August 2006 07:05 schrieb Theodore Tso:
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 04:02:04PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> > - installer did not read in the CDs for package lists and the GUI does
> > not even support this (or for any other means of modifying
> > /etc/apt/sources.list)
> >
> >From t
So can we do this? Load kernel modules or even extra udebs from a
CD/floppy/usb stick/URL that the user provides during the installation
process?
Now I think about it, I seem to remember doing this back with
boot-floppies, to get an e1000 network controller to be recognised by the
installer, IIRC.
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 01:45:26AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
>[...] upstream considered it completely unacceptable for anyone to
>ship python in such a state that users would end up with less than the
>full python suite installed on their system. [...]
In fairness, Perl upstream had similar pr
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 12:03:25PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Am Sonntag 27 August 2006 07:05 schrieb Theodore Tso:
> > >From the menubar. System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager
>
> Funny, Synaptic was not installed but something called adept. Guess what you
> have to do to
Hendrik Sattler wrote:
>>> - something useful like ifplugd was not installed and the user was
>>> puzzled by the fact that plugging in the network cable did not
>>> result in network access
>> I agree that it would be nice if ifplugd or laptop-net were installed
>> by default, but last I checked De
maybe backports should be considered a 1st class part of Debian; so
in addition to old-stable, stable, testing, and unstable, we could
add, "stable-useful". The fact of the matter is that the stable
distribution today is pretty much useless for desktop users, and
useless for people who need to in
This stuff did not even exist when Sarge was released. Half of userland would
not fit this hardware, so who cares.
Everyone who would like to install a stable Debian release on hardware
currently available for purchase.
And this non-free stuff is nothing to discuss about.
Good for you - pe
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On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 17:14 +, Thaddeus H. Black wrote:
> The f
Version: 0.9-1
* Brian May [Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:43:24 +1000]:
> Robert> Could you please run 'bzr upgrade' while using bzr
> Robert> 0.9rc1. If my guess at your situation is right this will
> Robert> take a while to run, but correct your performance issues.
> >> Did I do somethin
Marco d'Itri wrote:
> So you clearly show to not understand the issue: almost every piece of
> hardware uses a non-free firmware. Either uploaded after power-on or
> semi-permanently stored on it.
But then again, Debian doesn't ship that hardware.
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Lørdag 26 august 2006 15:15, skrev Theodore Tso:
> No support for: (The * are critical)
>
> * SATA Hard Drives (*)
> * IPW3945 wireless (*)
> * Intel AD1981 HD Audio (*)
> * 3D Graphics support on the ATI FireGL V5200 card
> (propietary kernel module)
Is the mailing list software on Alioth broken or misconfigured? If I
send from any host on my network other than the one which happens to be
the mail server, I get this error when I send to an Alioth list:
Aug 27 17:26:48 santiago postfix/smtp[23682]: 4A8002403D:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
relay=lis
Am Sonntag 27 August 2006 23:30 schrieb Knut Yrvin:
> A list of version numbers on important software packages on the test
> version of Debian-edu/Skolelinux (The Kubuntu Dapper version number in
> parenthesis):
>
> - Kernel 2.16.2 (2.6.15)
That cannot be correct.
HS
On 8/28/06, Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Am Sonntag 27 August 2006 23:30 schrieb Knut Yrvin:
> A list of version numbers on important software packages on the test
> version of Debian-edu/Skolelinux (The Kubuntu Dapper version number in
> parenthesis):
>
> - Kernel 2.16.2 (2.6.15)
Søndag 27 august 2006 23:48, skrev Hendrik Sattler:
> > - Kernel 2.16.2 (2.6.15)
>
> That cannot be correct.
Correction. I forgot the digit #6 :
Kernel 2.6.16-2 (2.6.15)
- K
This one time, at band camp, Roberto C. Sanchez said:
> Is the mailing list software on Alioth broken or misconfigured? If I
> send from any host on my network other than the one which happens to be
> the mail server, I get this error when I send to an Alioth list:
>
> Aug 27 17:26:48 santiago po
On 08/26/06 03:26:12PM +, Sam Morris wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:02:04 +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> > Am Samstag 26 August 2006 15:15 schrieb Theodore Tso:
> >> No support for: (The * are critical)
> >>
> >>* SATA Hard Drives (*)
> >>* Intel AD1981 HD Audio (*)
> >
> > This stuf
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 02:18:12AM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Roberto C. Sanchez said:
> > Is the mailing list software on Alioth broken or misconfigured? If I
> > send from any host on my network other than the one which happens to be
> > the mail server, I get this
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Jim Crilly wrote:
> On 08/26/06 03:26:12PM +, Sam Morris wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:02:04 +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
>>> Am Samstag 26 August 2006 15:15 schrieb Theodore Tso:
No support for: (The * are critical)
* SATA Hard
> "Adeodato" == Adeodato <"=?utf-8?B?U2ltw7M=?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> writes:
Adeodato> Hm. I'd say that you have .pyc files left in:
Adeodato>
Adeodato> /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/bzrlib/plugins/bzrtools
Adeodato> Can you check, please?
Yes, see below.
Ad
* Brian May [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:22:55 +1000]:
> Adeodate> Also, do you remember having root
> Adeodato> bzr as root?
> Huh?
Sorry, that should have read: "do you remember having *run* bzr as root".
It's the most likely cause for those .pyc files to be there, since
bzrtools did not.
Tha
On Sun August 27 2006 06:47, Sander Marechal wrote:
> Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> > It's all about expectations. Always keep in mind that the target
> > group differs a lot between Ubuntu and Debian.
>
> I wouldn't say they differ. Ubuntu targets only a small subset of
> Debian users. Maybe Debian sho
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 10:37:58PM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote:
> On Sun August 27 2006 06:47, Sander Marechal wrote:
> > * Desktop - basic: Simple minimal GNOME installation pretty much as
> > it is now, maybe with even less software preinstalled. (I was
> > surprised by the ammount of software that c
On 8/28/06, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What the message suggests to me is that the other machines in your
> domain should be using address rewriting if they are sending from
> unroutable addresses.
Except that there are multiple domains hosted from my network. Which
should
* Martijn van Oosterhout [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 07:22:40 +0200]:
> I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it matters what domain, the
> address just has to exist. I think that they're checking your Sender
> header (which is where bounces get sent) for validity.
Almost. They're checking his envelope-from
David Nusinow wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 10:37:58PM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote:
>> On Sun August 27 2006 06:47, Sander Marechal wrote:
>>> * Desktop - basic: Simple minimal GNOME installation pretty much as
>>> it is now, maybe with even less software preinstalled. (I was
>>> surprised by the am
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:22:40AM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
>
> I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it matters what domain, the
> address just has to exist. I think that they're checking your Sender
> header (which is where bounces get sent) for validity. I remember
> dealing with thi
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:38:56AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> * Martijn van Oosterhout [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 07:22:40 +0200]:
>
> > I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it matters what domain, the
> > address just has to exist. I think that they're checking your Sender
> > header (which is where bo
On Sun August 27 2006 18:55, you wrote:
> Deferring to Ubuntu for this work is the worst sort of defeatist
> nonsense and I will not to bow to it. I like collaborating with the
> Ubuntu people, but I refuse to compromise my own work or Debian as a
> project just so that they can excel.
I think you
* Roberto C. Sanchez [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:45:30 -0400]:
> Interesting. My previous attempt at solving this was to have mutt
> explicitly set the Return-Path header. However, it did not work. I
> don't know if it was because postfix on my gateway host stripped it or
> rewrote it, or if it is jus
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 08:06:37AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> * Roberto C. Sanchez [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:45:30 -0400]:
>
> > Interesting. My previous attempt at solving this was to have mutt
> > explicitly set the Return-Path header. However, it did not work. I
> > don't know if it was becaus
> Le jeudi 17 août 2006 à 11:48 -0400, Anthony L. Bryan a écrit :
> > Metalinks might be helpful on Debian's download page for
> CD/DVD images. You
> > could have a single quick link to your ISOs that contains all the
> > mirror/p2p/checksum info in it.
> >
> > Metalinks, a cross platform vendor
> "Adeodato" == Adeodato <"=?utf-8?B?U2ltw7M=?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> writes:
Adeodato> Sorry, that should have read: "do you remember having
Adeodato> *run* bzr as root". It's the most likely cause for
Adeodato> those .pyc files to be there, since bzrtools did not.
No -
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> * Brian May [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:22:55 +1000]:
>
> > Adeodate> Also, do you remember having root
> > Adeodato> bzr as root?
>
> > Huh?
>
> Sorry, that should have read: "do you remember having *run* bzr as root".
> It's the most likely cause fo
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