On Sun August 27 2006 06:47, Sander Marechal wrote: > Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > It's all about expectations. Always keep in mind that the target > > group differs a lot between Ubuntu and Debian. > > I wouldn't say they differ. Ubuntu targets only a small subset of > Debian users. Maybe Debian should simply split the Desktop task in > tasksel into two entries:
`Ubuntu users are a subset of Debian users' Yes, because both, Debian targets all users and Ubuntu is a Debian user. No, because Ubuntu clearly serves a group that Debian doesn't. > * Desktop - basic: Simple minimal GNOME installation pretty much as > it is now, maybe with even less software preinstalled. (I was > surprised by the ammount of software that came along with it). > > * Desktop - stand alone: End-user desktop enviroment where we can > safely add fancy integration tricks and extra components that Ubuntu > does as well. If by "we" you mean Debian... great success in that endeavour would essentially put Ubuntu out of business, I don't think that is what either wants. Debian should provide the means for Ubuntu to add "fancy integration tricks and extra components" in a safe way. Technically, "the means" boils down to the infrastructure and abstractions needed to trivially fork a *Debian* package (rather than create an *Ubuntu* package.) It would be really cool if Debian's "Ubuntu Desktop" task resulted in an Ubuntu Desktop system; an even better result would be a Debian system with the appropriate sources, pinnings, and configs needed to replicate an Ubuntu Desktop for just those things Ubuntu does differently. Ubuntu's installer would presumably result in a streamlined and focused system, while Debian would be capable of producing and managing a blend of Ubuntu's desktop, Whoever's server, whatever, etc., as required. - Bruce -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
