Re: NMUs for Python Policy -- please hold them a little

2006-06-26 Thread Frank Küster
Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Loïc Minier, 2006-06-23 16:40:06 +0200 : > > [...] > >> Probably the biggest reason why I feel this extra time would be >> useful is because the new Python Policy and the tools supporting it >> saw non-negligible changes in the last days. All of this onl

Bug#375462: ITP: kwin-style-serenity -- Plasmoid inspired window decoration for KDE

2006-06-26 Thread Sune Vuorela
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: kwin-style-serenity Version : 0.9 Upstream Author : Remi Villatel * URL : http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=35954 * License : GPL Programming Lang: QT D

Bug#375461: ITP: kde-style-serenity -- Serenity widget style for kde

2006-06-26 Thread Sune Vuorela
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: kde-style-serenity Version : 0.9 Upstream Author : Remi Villatel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=35954 * License : LGPL-2 Pro

Re: Reclaiming automake

2006-06-26 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 19:11 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: > Scott James Remnant dropped me an email recently, interested in > improving the automake situation in Ubuntu and Debian[0]. > > [0] Their plan, which mirrors mine, is documented here: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomakeTransition > If you c

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-26 Thread Frank Küster
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adeodato Simó wrote: >> * Ron Johnson [Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:34:29 -0500]: >> >>> How does that package get from the Debian mirror to your >>> computer? >> >>> 2 ways: - network - mailed CD/DVD >> >>> In either case, *size* does matter. >> >> No, this is

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-26 Thread Frank Küster
Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gzipping PDF provides no real space saving advantage What do you mean with "no real"? There is a considerable saving, as I've shown in the previous thread a couple of weeks ago. Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-26 Thread Frank Küster
Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/05/msg01440.html). [...] > Now that I know files which was compressible by gzip had good cmpression > already inside PDF, I am leaning toward publishing PDF without gzipping > even now. Thanks. > > Just to rehash fa

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-26 Thread Frank Küster
Martin Wuertele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-25 12:06]: > >> And besides of that, compression does not make sense on most PDFs as >> pointed out by yuo/me/many others and the remaining PDFs have good >> chances to recompressed internally. > > And again

Problems with PDF creation (was: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?)

2006-06-26 Thread Frank Küster
Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wait, there is less than 70MB of PDF. Yes, this is true. Due to > difficulties of making nice PDF out of XML/SGML without hitting FTBFS, > many packages does not bother PDF creation. Most of the doc containing > PDF are: Can you please be more specific a

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-26 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 10:11:57AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > No, this is factually wrong. PDF files produced on a Debian system with > any of the usual tools already have maximal internal compression, > there's no way to further improve that (except buying Adobe and allowing > internal bz2/7zip

Re: *-doc package should not gzip PDF file

2006-06-26 Thread Preben Randhol
Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 26/06/2006 (05:08) : > On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 16:51 -0400, James R. Van Zandt wrote: > > > > I have no idea how debhelper works. Are there anybody out there that > > > can help with getting it to stop gzipping files in -doc? > > > > dh_compress already ha

Re: *-doc package should not gzip PDF file

2006-06-26 Thread Preben Randhol
Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 25/06/2006 (12:17) : > I think I gave wrong impression to you. Yes :-) I thought you meant the usual: OK I'll fix your problem if you provide the solution :-) > Most of PDF.GZ are under me and tetex-doc people. Once we find good > technical solution, we m

Re: Bug#374997: ITP: utf8-migration-tool -- tool to migrate a Debian system to UTF-8

2006-06-26 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
su, 2006-06-25 kello 21:42 +0200, Denis Barbier kirjoitti: > (I forgot to Cc: d-d in my first reply) > > On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 01:12:23AM +0300, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > [...] > > > > I would gladly welcome co-maintainance with Debian's i10n/i18n team. > > > > > > What are his benefits over

Re: additions to dpkg-architecture and dpkg-cross

2006-06-26 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Volker, Great that you've put this up to public. Still, for this to be accepted, we need to come up with patches for apt that contain an algorithm that will pick versions of packages matching user's requirements, known architecture hierarchies (i386->i486->...) and available sources. Currently,

Re: *-doc package should not gzip PDF file

2006-06-26 Thread George Danchev
On Monday 26 June 2006 11:46, Preben Randhol wrote: > Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 26/06/2006 (05:08) : > > On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 16:51 -0400, James R. Van Zandt wrote: > > > > I have no idea how debhelper works. Are there anybody out there > > > > that can help with getting it to stop

Re: *-doc package should not gzip PDF file

2006-06-26 Thread Frank Küster
Preben Randhol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If a pdf file is huge because of > lack of internal compression then isn't it better to use a tool that > compresses internally than to fix the symptoms? The internal compression allowed in a PDF file is dictated by the PDF specification. This open sta

Testing excuses question

2006-06-26 Thread Jiri Palecek
Hello, I've seen some mysterious excuses on http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian For example: look at the package arch2darcs. There is: arch2darcs is adding amd64 binaries (no new version) arch2darcs is waiting for tla this looks OK. But then Updating tla makes 1 depending packages u

Re: Testing excuses question

2006-06-26 Thread Ozgur Karatas
success, and test set in webalizer? http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/points.html ,''`. Ozgur Karatas : :' : [EMAIL PROTECTED] `. `' http://www.ozgurkaratas.com `-Powered By Debian GNU\Linux Jiri Palecek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> demiş ki: > Hello, > > I've seen some mysterious excuses on

Re: (doc) 31. sarge install and postfix building

2006-06-26 Thread Ozgur Karatas
hi, i writing Debian GNU\Linux Install and Building Postfix Mail Server document. if pdf format : http://www.iucoders.com/article_detail.jsp?nid=50 in html format: http://www.olympos.org/article/articleview/1861/1/10/debian_gnulinux_ile_postfix_posta_sunucusu_kurulumu ,''`. Ozgur Karatas :

Re: (doc) 31. sarge install and postfix building

2006-06-26 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Ozgur Karatas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > if pdf format : http://www.iucoders.com/article_detail.jsp?nid=50 > in html format: > http://www.olympos.org/article/articleview/1861/1/10/debian_gnulinux_ile_postfix_posta_sunucusu_kurulumu Dude, it's Turkish :) That makes it a tad bit hard to read... --

Bug#375496: O: drupal

2006-06-26 Thread Hilko Bengen
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I am orphaning the drupal package. I am no longer using it. Advice for the DD who wants to take this over: Create separate versions for major upstream releases: drupal4.5, drupal4.6, drupal4.7. Don't waste time trying to do automatic database updates -- that Simply

Re: Re: Testing excuses question

2006-06-26 Thread Jiri Palecek
> success, > and test set in webalizer? > http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/points.html Sorry, I do not understand. You mean the "breaks xx packages" thingy? I have already said, that of these 74 packages, 15 are dependent, and they are more or less prepared to enter testing along with neon. The rest

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 09:59:36AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > There was. It ended with no conclusion. Here's my view of the outcome, > from pure recollection without looking anything up: > > - gzipping PDF files does save some space; bz2 compression would save > even more. Naturally, compr

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 10:00:57AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Gzipping PDF provides no real space saving advantage > > What do you mean with "no real"? There is a considerable saving, as > I've shown in the previous thread a couple of weeks ago. Som

Re: Problems with PDF creation (was: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?)

2006-06-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 10:17:20AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Wait, there is less than 70MB of PDF. Yes, this is true. Due to > > difficulties of making nice PDF out of XML/SGML without hitting FTBFS, > > many packages does not bother PDF creation.

Re: Testing excuses question

2006-06-26 Thread Andrew Vaughan
On Monday 26 June 2006 23:08, Jiri Palecek wrote: > Sorry, I do not understand. You mean the "breaks xx packages" thingy? > > I have already said, that of these 74 packages, 15 are dependent, > and they are more or less prepared to enter testing along with > neon. The rest only depends on those 15,

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-26 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Frank Küster wrote: > There was. It ended with no conclusion. Here's my view of the outcome, > from pure recollection without looking anything up: > > - gzipping PDF files does save some space; bz2 compression would save > even more. Naturally, compressing files that are internally > uncomp

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-26 Thread Preben Randhol
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:21:10 +0200 Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that a notable addition (by Olaf v.d.S. IIRC) was that it > could be worthwhile to improve viewers. E.g. kghostview will > correctly open .pdf.gz while gnome-gv will not. Similarly kdvi > opens .dvi.gz. Altough

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-26 Thread Preben Randhol
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 12:08:17 +0200 Rolf Kutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you think users with small machines shouldn't > be able to install docs, too? It's just a one line > script to gunzip all pdfs in /usr/share/doc. I don't find this a good argument as it is equally a one line script to bz

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-26 Thread Frank Küster
Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank Küster wrote: >> There was. It ended with no conclusion. Here's my view of the outcome, >> from pure recollection without looking anything up: >> >> - gzipping PDF files does save some space; bz2 compression would save >> even more. Naturall

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-26 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006, Preben Randhol wrote: > > Do you think users with small machines shouldn't be able to install > > docs, too? It's just a one line script to gunzip all pdfs in > > /usr/share/doc. > > I don't find this a good argument as it is equally a one line script > to bzip2 all pdfs in /

Re: Patch cplay to use mplayer with speed-control

2006-06-26 Thread Daniel Michalik
On 2006-06-23, Kevin B. McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it is optional (that is, if you improve your patch to test for an mplayer > binary at runtime), you could certainly consider submitting it to the Debian > maintainer or to upstream. I worked on my patch. Now it only extents cplay of

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 05:21:10PM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > I think that a notable addition (by Olaf v.d.S. IIRC) was that it could > be worthwhile to improve viewers. Seconded. On the same line, given the habits we are developing nowadays, we should also improve all command line completio

Bug#375548: ITP: openvcp -- Linux-VServer Control Panel

2006-06-26 Thread Sebastian Harl
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sebastian Harl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: openvcp Version : 0.1-beta Upstream Author : Gerrit Wyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://openvcp.org/ * License : GPL Description : Linux-VServer Control Panel

Bug#365073: ITP: zimpl -- mathematical modeling language for optimization problems

2006-06-26 Thread Joachim Reichel
* Package name: zimpl Version : 2.04 Upstream Author : Thorsten Koch * URL : http://www.zib.de/koch/zimpl/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : mathematical modeling language for optimization problems Zimpl allows the specification of cert

Re: sending debian-private postings to gmail

2006-06-26 Thread Martin Schulze
Domenico Andreoli wrote: > it's nice to have your personal gobal & searchable mailing list > archive, where you can really find anything you have ever received. Even though it is nice, it's also problematic to scatter around private and hence sensitive (at least temporarily sensitive) information

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-26 Thread Preben Randhol
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:59:39 +0200 Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2006, Preben Randhol wrote: > > > > Do you think users with small machines shouldn't be able to > > > install docs, too? It's just a one line script to gunzip all pdfs > > > in /usr/share/doc. > > > > I do

Is OSS only support to be considered a bug?

2006-06-26 Thread Preben Randhol
With the 2.6 kernel programs using OSS for sound are not working anymore. Sound that is. One *may* use aoss, but then the user needs to open a terminal and write: aoss program-name because launching from the menu it won't work. So I consider aoss only as a temporary dirty hack before alsa takes o

new tar behavior and --wildcards

2006-06-26 Thread Bdale Garbee
The new tar behavior with respect to wildcards is not a change I introduced just for Debian, it's a new upstream change that appears to be quite intentional and well documented, as per this text from the tar info docs: The following table summarizes pattern-matching default values: Members

Re: Is OSS only support to be considered a bug?

2006-06-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 26, Preben Randhol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My question is if it is legitimately to open bugs against applications > that only support OSS for spund? Yes. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Is OSS only support to be considered a bug?

2006-06-26 Thread Bastian Blank
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 09:20:34PM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote: > With the 2.6 kernel programs using OSS for sound are not working > anymore. Sound that is. Incorrect. The kernel includes OSS emulation. > My question is if it is legitimately to open bugs against applications > that only support O

Re: Is OSS only support to be considered a bug?

2006-06-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 09:20:34PM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote: > With the 2.6 kernel programs using OSS for sound are not working > anymore. Sound that is. One *may* use aoss, but then the user needs to > open a terminal and write: > > aoss program-name > > because launching from the menu it won

Re: new tar behavior and --wildcards

2006-06-26 Thread Petr Vandrovec
[I'm not on Debian-devel, so please CC me] Bdale Garbee wrote: The new tar behavior with respect to wildcards is not a change I introduced just for Debian, it's a new upstream change that appears to be quite intentional and well documented, as per this text from the tar info docs: The follow

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-26 Thread Steve McIntyre
Preben Randhol writes: >On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:59:39 +0200 >Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 26, 2006, Preben Randhol wrote: >> >> > > Do you think users with small machines shouldn't be able to >> > > install docs, too? It's just a one line script to gunzip all pdfs >> > >

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-26 Thread Preben Randhol
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:30:45 +0100 Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yet I've got several machines with limited disk space where I really > *do* care if things are compressed. After all, disk space is *always* > used up when it's in use and CPU is only used on the odd occasion when > you

Re: Is OSS only support to be considered a bug?

2006-06-26 Thread Preben Randhol
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:35:19 +0200 Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 09:20:34PM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote: > > With the 2.6 kernel programs using OSS for sound are not working > > anymore. Sound that is. One *may* use aoss, but then the user needs > > to open a

Re: new tar behavior and --wildcards

2006-06-26 Thread Joe Smith
"Petr Vandrovec" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Since this seems to have been an intentional behavior change by upstream to better align with a published standard, I'm uninclined to fight it, and think our best response is to update our utilities to include the --wildcards option, with

Re: Is OSS only support to be considered a bug?

2006-06-26 Thread Joe Smith
"Preben Randhol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:35:19 +0200 Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 09:20:34PM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote: > With the 2.6 kernel programs using OSS for sound are not working > anymo

Re: new tar behavior and --wildcards

2006-06-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Petr Vandrovec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This decision makes tar completely incompatible. Programs which worked > fine with tar for 6 years are suddenly broken, and now you have to have > two versions - one for 'tar' before this brokeness, which do not pass > --wildcards, and one for this bro

Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?

2006-06-26 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, Osamu Aoki wrote: > >...< > > So far for the past; at the moment I think that it would be a good > > compromise to not compress PDF files in dedicated -doc packages, while > > keeping them compressed in mixed packages. This would mean that we > > should *not* wait for debhelp

Another weird tar issue (100 character filenames)

2006-06-26 Thread Russ Allbery
I just built new xml-security-c packages to fix the current FTBFS bug, and lintian returned the following error message: E: libxml-security-c-doc: deb-created-with-broken-tar file: /usr/share/doc/libxml-security-c-doc/c/apiDocs/winutils_2XSECBinHTTPURIInputStream_8hpp-source.html N: N: The bina

Bug#375603: ITP: zope-pgstorage -- a ZODB backend that persists to a PostgreSQL database

2006-06-26 Thread alex bodnaru
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: alex bodnaru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: zope-pgstorage Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Shane Hathaway, Zope Corporation, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://hathawaymix.org/Software/PGStorage * License : Zope Publ