Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

* Stephen Birch: > Wow Nokia just became my new favourite company. To put things into perspective, Nokia is one of the companies lobbying for unlimited software patents in Europe. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

Hi! Josselin Mouette [2005-06-05 18:50 +0200]: > The problem is that the decisions are always taken for the Ubuntu > distribution first. I can't remember any situation where somebody said "Don't do this in Debian yet, Ubuntu wants it first". I don't see any world/Debian domination plan here. Jus

Re: RFC: A new video-related section

> > By the way debedit spew some debugging output at me and seems also a bit > > laggy. Is it still beta? (: > I was unable to find debedit, are you speaking about debtags-edit? I am Yes, he was talking about debtags-edit, as the mail he replies to states. > not sure if it is still beta, but it

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

Le samedi 04 juin 2005 à 19:00 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez a écrit : > On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 07:43:00PM +0200, Martin Braure de Calignon wrote: > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: Martin Braure de Calignon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > * Package name: gaim-latex > > Version

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

* Martin Braure de Calignon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050606 10:39]: > But I have a question. I'have quickly done first package. gaim-latex use > a tex2im script that is from another source. Do I have to make two > packages, one for tex2im and one for gaim-latex or do I have to just > include this scrip

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

Le dimanche 05 juin 2005 à 20:42 -0700, Daniel Burrows a écrit : > On Sunday 05 June 2005 03:37 am, Bill Allombert wrote: > > Sound like a potential security nightmare to me. LaTeX is a full > > programming language. > > Well, in principle it would be possible to just parse a subset of LaTeX [0]

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

Matt Zimmerman([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-05 12:55: > I don't think there exists a bug tracking system which meets this need > today, which is why Canonical is developing a bug tracking system which is > designed to meet the needs of open source projects collaborating with each > other on common co

Re: Canonical and Debian

Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > accusing people of being members of a Canonical-controlled cabal when they > do you the courtesy of informing you about their personal priorities for > etch. Your choice. "personal priorities", that's a good summary for the Vancouver proposal, indeed.

Re: Canonical and Debian

"Michael K. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ensuring that packages build and run properly on a wide variety of > architectures is _work_. I happen to think that it's worthwhile work, It is work, but it's up to the maintainers to track their builds. The release team really shouldn't have to

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Florian Weimer([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 09:32: > * Stephen Birch: > > > Wow Nokia just became my new favourite company. > > To put things into perspective, Nokia is one of the companies lobbying > for unlimited software patents in Europe. Oops. I don't like to appear fickle but I guess

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:21:46AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > Florian Weimer([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 09:32: > > * Stephen Birch: > > > > > Wow Nokia just became my new favourite company. > > > > To put things into perspective, Nokia is one of the companies lobbying > > for unlimited

Re: Canonical and Debian

On Jun 06, Julien BLACHE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately, far too many developers do not give a shit about > anything else but i386. Yes, because they have been burned too many times by the broken buildds, broken kernels and broken toolchains which are so much common for many of the doo

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:47:50AM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > So, I take it you don't buy any products from Apple, IBM, Sony, > etc either? Same for Alcatel, Ericsson and Siemens, who actively support software patents in Europe :( They all sent threat/blackmail letters to European government

Re: Canonical and Debian

On 06/06/05, Julien BLACHE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Michael K. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ensuring that packages build and run properly on a wide variety of > > architectures is _work_. I happen to think that it's worthwhile work, > > It is work, but it's up to the maintainer

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Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:13:50AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > Matt Zimmerman([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-05 12:55: > > I don't think there exists a bug tracking system which meets this need > > today, which is why Canonical is developing a bug tracking system which is > > designed to meet the nee

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 12:10:02PM +0200, Xavier Roche wrote: > > Both IBM and Nokia said they won't sue open source developpers. For the > moment, at least. This is the real threat, IMHO: big companies using open > source for a while, and then.. killing it when they don't need it anymore. That i

Re: Canonical and Debian

Le dimanche 05 juin 2005 à 18:05 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > > Now, please tell me what I can do so that all architectures in sarge are > > supported in etch. > > Clone yourself and make yourself a slave to the buildds for 7 or 8 > architectures, so that the release team doesn't have to. Ne

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On 06/06/05, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:13:50AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > > Matt Zimmerman([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-05 12:55: > > > I don't think there exists a bug tracking system which meets this need > > > today, which is why Canonical is developin

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:45:59PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote: > On 06/06/05, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:13:50AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > > > Is it your hope that the debian project will switch to the new software > > > so ubuntu can stop running an in

Re: Canonical and Debian

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:25:45AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le dimanche 05 juin 2005 à 18:05 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > > Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > Now, please tell me what I can do so that all architectures in sarge are > > > supported in etch. > > > > Clone yourself and make y

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

* Jesus Climent: > That is the key: OSS cannot be killed, not while EU and USA's > governments, local and nationwide, are promoting, using and even > developing OSS themselves. Most countries use OSS only when it's supported by large companies that can be sued for billions. Smaller companies usu

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 01:33:00PM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote: > That is the key: OSS cannot be killed, not while EU and USA's governments, > local and nationwide, are promoting, using and even developing OSS themselves. I can't be killed, but it can be expensive. What will do governments, local a

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On 06/06/05, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:45:59PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote: > > On 06/06/05, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:13:50AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > > > > Is it your hope that the debian project will swit

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Am 2005-06-06 12:10:02, schrieb Xavier Roche: > 922 patents (including software patents, still 'illegal' in Europe) > were issued by Nokia, by the way: > > But IBM issued much more (at least 2620, according to ffii) software > patents. For some

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:19:20PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Many of those Patents a not related to OSS. Yes, true. But many other "non software" patents are actually disguised software patents (such as implementing a trivial algorithm on a chip - hey, these ARE software patents) > And s

Re: Canonical and Debian

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:25:45AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le dimanche 05 juin 2005 à 18:05 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > > > Now, please tell me what I can do so that all architectures in sarge are > > > supported in etch. > > > > Clone yourself and make yourself a slave to the build

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Am 2005-06-06 15:02:31, schrieb Xavier Roche: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:19:20PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > Many of those Patents a not related to OSS. > > Yes, true. But many other "non software" patents are actually > disguised software patents (such as implementing a trivial algorithm

Re: Canonical and Debian

Le lundi 06 juin 2005 à 12:56 +0100, Colin Watson a écrit : > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:25:45AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le dimanche 05 juin 2005 à 18:05 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > > > Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > > Now, please tell me what I can do so that all architectures in s

Re: Canonical and Debian

[Josselin Mouette] > However that won't help the architecture make it to a Vancouver-like > release. I suspect you have misunderstood the content and intention of the proposal from the group meeting in Vancover. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 10:47:35AM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Martin Braure de Calignon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050606 10:39]: > > But I have a question. I'have quickly done first package. gaim-latex use > > a tex2im script that is from another source. Do I have to make two > > packages, one f

Re: Canonical and Debian

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:00:47PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Then what do you mean? There are several architectures with porters > ready to do huge amounts of porting work. For example, would you dare to > say m68k is lacking manpower? We can speak for ourselves, thank you. -- The amount

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:38:13 -0500 (CDT), Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 05:39:33PM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: >> > >> > 3 Future >> > >> > * fix the Debian Java Policy; >> > * update the Debian Java FAQ; >

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

David Weinehall([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 11:47: > > > > top company to bottom in my mind. Sigh ... I would have liked one of > > those tablet computer. > > So, I take it you don't buy any products from Apple, IBM, Sony, > etc either? Apple ... nope IBM ... nope Sony ... okay, so you got

Re: ITP: cl-rfc2388 -- an implementation of RFC 2388 in Common Lisp

On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 12:06:14PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote: >... > BTW, the CVS source already contains a debian/ folder, as the author > accepted to let rfc2388 become a Debian native package :-) Please don't package it as a native Debian package. You can ship it with an empty Debian diff but

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Michelle Konzack([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 15:52: > I know, and I have no money to sue Microsoft which has stolen > a Software which was 1986 under PD for educational use only... Just out of curiosity, what was that? Steve -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "un

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 12:55:36PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:45:59PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote: > > On 06/06/05, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:13:50AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > > > > Is it your hope that the debian project

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Jesus Climent writes: > That is the key: OSS cannot be killed, not while EU and USA's governments, > local and nationwide, are promoting, using and even developing OSS themselves. > Would you shoot on your feet? The politicians really don't comprehend the problem (and neither do most of the CEOs

Re: Canonical and Debian

Julien BLACHE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> accusing people of being members of a Canonical-controlled cabal when they >> do you the courtesy of informing you about their personal priorities for >> etch. Your choice. > > "personal priorities", that's

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:38:13 -0500 (CDT), > Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 05:39:33PM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > >> > > >> > 3 Future > >> > > >> > * fix the

Re: Canonical and Debian

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 04:50:35PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:00:47PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Then what do you mean? There are several architectures with porters > > ready to do huge amounts of porting work. For example, would you dare to > > say m68k is l

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Am 2005-06-06 08:17:21, schrieb Stephen Birch: > Michelle Konzack([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 15:52: > > I know, and I have no money to sue Microsoft which has stolen > > a Software which was 1986 under PD for educational use only... > > Just out of curiosity, what was that? 1) A Scandisk rout

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:44:17AM -0500, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 12:55:36PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:45:59PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote: > > > ditto, plus, isn't there meant to be a few more good features coming > > > up for the BTS (i heard t

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 08:17:21AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > Michelle Konzack([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 15:52: > > I know, and I have no money to sue Microsoft which has stolen > > a Software which was 1986 under PD for educational use only... > > Just out of curiosity, what was that? >

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 12:21:42PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:13:50AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > > Matt Zimmerman([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-05 12:55: > > > I don't think there exists a bug tracking system which meets this need > > > today, which is why Canonical is

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:01:37PM +0200, Xavier Roche wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 01:33:00PM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote: > > That is the key: OSS cannot be killed, not while EU and USA's governments, > > local and nationwide, are promoting, using and even developing OSS > > themselves. > >

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

David Nusinow([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 12:07: > > > Is it your hope that the debian project will switch to the new software > > > so ubuntu can stop running an independent bug tracker? > > > > I think that's pretty unlikely, personally ... > > Would it be of a lot of benefit to us if it coul

Re: Canonical and Debian

> > Then how did these people end up choosing to support the same set of > > architectures as Ubuntu? > > I know I've been screaming murder and hell about this, but in hindsight, > after having read the proposers' explanations (and the proposal itself > for a few more times), this certainly is not

Bug#312236: ITP: ackertodo -- A lightweight todo list manager

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rob Hensley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ackertodo Version : 2.4 Upstream Author : Rob Hensley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://ackertodo.sf.net/ * License : (GPL) Description : A lightweight todo list mana

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Michelle Konzack writes: > I know, and I have no money to sue Microsoft which has stolen a Software > which was 1986 under PD for educational use only... You don't need any money and you don't need to sue Microsoft. If you have proof of prior art for a software patent please contact one of the ma

Re: Canonical and Debian

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:22:08PM +0200, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver wrote: > That sounds retarded in an age where a 200GB HD cost less then 100 Euro... > Anyway you can always decide to mirror only part of the archive if you > want to, even today. Those who followed the dozens of earlier discussion

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Am 2005-06-06 10:11:22, schrieb John Hasler: > You don't need any money and you don't need to sue Microsoft. If you have > proof of prior art for a software patent please contact one of the many > organizations fighting such patents, such as the Free Software Foundation > . S

Re: Canonical and Debian

* Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Clone yourself and make yourself a slave to the buildds for 7 or 8 > architectures, so that the release team doesn't have to. Neither the Whoah, whoah, whoah, is this actually an option? Last I checked that answer was 'no'. Hell, that's most of the

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

Martin Braure de Calignon wrote: > Quoting tex2im code: > > (...) > latex -interaction=batchmode out.tex > /dev/null > cd "$homedir" > dvips -o $tmpdir/out.eps -E $tmpdir/out.dvi 2> /dev/null > (...) > convert +adjoin -antialias -transparent $color1 -density $resolution > $tmpdir/out.

Re: Canonical and Debian

Am 2005-06-06 19:22:08, schrieb Peter 'p2' De Schrijver: > That sounds retarded in an age where a 200GB HD cost less then 100 Euro... > Anyway you can always decide to mirror only part of the archive if you > want to, even today. Using an ATA Disk for a Mirror ? Sorry, but I am using Western Dig

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:14:51PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > Martin Braure de Calignon wrote: > > > Quoting tex2im code: > > > > (...) > > latex -interaction=batchmode out.tex > /dev/null > > cd "$homedir" > > dvips -o $tmpdir/out.eps -E $tmpdir/out.dvi 2> /dev/null > > (...)

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > At some point, you do need to execute something on your machine, else > you may as well unplug it and find something else to do. I understand > what you are saying, but we can't put everyone in a small padded room. > Based on your assessment, we would have cause to see

Re: Canonical and Debian

Am 2005-06-06 10:50:08, schrieb Matt Zimmerman: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:22:08PM +0200, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver wrote: > > > That sounds retarded in an age where a 200GB HD cost less then 100 Euro... > > Anyway you can always decide to mirror only part of the archive if you > > want to, even t

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:28:55PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > At some point, you do need to execute something on your machine, else > > you may as well unplug it and find something else to do. I understand > > what you are saying, but we can't put everyone

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 07:45:58AM +0100, Stephen Birch wrote: > On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 00:53 -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > There isn't much that I can do about packages that I don't maintain; we have > > some tools for this, but it is primarily a matter of personal preference > > (and not De

Re: Canonical and Debian

Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> accusing people of being members of a Canonical-controlled cabal when they >>> do you the courtesy of informing you about their personal priorities for >>> etch. Your choice. >> >> "personal priorities", that's a good summary for the Vancouver >>

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

Le lundi 06 juin 2005 à 14:28 -0400, Anthony DeRobertis a écrit : > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Ummm, I think you've missed my point. The thread is discussing a GAIM > (instant message client) plugin. So that script is not run by you, it is > run by an arbitrary stranger sending you an instant mess

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 08:28:26AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > >This seems incredible to me. What did you mean by this? You have never > >heard of Knoppix, Morphix, > They do not provide an apt-get - able Debian mirror. They provide free software

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:13:50AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > Matt Zimmerman([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-05 12:55: > > I don't think there exists a bug tracking system which meets this need > > today, which is why Canonical is developing a bug tracking system which is > > designed to meet the nee

Re: Canonical and Debian

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:12:00PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Clone yourself and make yourself a slave to the buildds for 7 or 8 > > architectures, so that the release team doesn't have to. Neither the > > Whoah, whoah, whoah, is this actually an

Bug#312256: ITP: washngo -- Web Authoring System for Haskell

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: washngo Version : 2.3.1 Upstream Author : Peter Thiemann * URL : http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~thiemann/haskell/WASH/ * License : 3-clause BSD Description :

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 08:45:11PM +0200, Martin Braure de Calignon wrote: > Le lundi 06 juin 2005 à 14:28 -0400, Anthony DeRobertis a écrit : > > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Ummm, I think you've missed my point. The thread is discussing a GAIM > > (instant message client) plugin. So that script

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 04:00:47PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 08:45:11PM +0200, Martin Braure de Calignon wrote: > > Le lundi 06 juin 2005 à 14:28 -0400, Anthony DeRobertis a écrit : > > > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > Ummm, I think you've missed my point. The threa

Re: Canonical and Debian

Le lundi 06 juin 2005 à 17:52 +0200, Julien BLACHE a écrit : > If you're not willing to maintain your packages on the architectures > supported by the Project (assuming it is possible, ie the packages > aren't arch-specific), then you're not helping the project, and you'd > better spend your time o

List of interface names (eth*, dummy*, ath*, tap*)

Hi, I'm searching for a list of interface names supported under Debian for the netspeed GNOME applet, preferably sorted by "user-relevance". The goal is to try to select the most relevant interface one would display network traffic for. It seems to me I came across such a list in a

Re: Canonical and Debian

6.06.2005 pisze Josselin Mouette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > You're forgetting that some people like Marco d'Itri believe the best OS > ever should integrate the latest and fullest set of non-free crap we can > find, and not that it should include all architectures we can reasonably > support. Don't y

Re: List of interface names (eth*, dummy*, ath*, tap*)

* Loïc Minier: > I'm searching for a list of interface names supported under Debian for > the netspeed GNOME applet, preferably sorted by "user-relevance". The > goal is to try to select the most relevant interface one would display > network traffic for. See nameif(8). Interface names can

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

I wrote: > You don't need any money and you don't need to sue Microsoft. If you have > proof of prior art for a software patent please contact one of the many > organizations fighting such patents, such as the Free Software Foundation > . Michelle Konzack writes: > Hmmm, shoul

Re: Canonical and Debian

On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 06:05:53PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Clone yourself and make yourself a slave to the buildds for 7 or 8 Yes, that is what I plan do to. > architectures, so that the release team doesn't have to. Neither the > release team nor the FTP team is interested in being respo

Re: Canonical and Debian

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 05:52:08PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> accusing people of being members of a Canonical-controlled cabal when they > >>> do you the courtesy of informing you about their personal priorities for > >>> etch. Your choice

Re: List of interface names (eth*, dummy*, ath*, tap*)

[Loïc Minier] > I'm searching for a list of interface names supported under Debian > for the netspeed GNOME applet, preferably sorted by > "user-relevance". The goal is to try to select the most relevant > interface one would display network traffic for. Are you aware of the getifaddrs() libr

Re: Canonical and Debian

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:58:13PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > I don't think Steve was talking about needing more buildd maintainers; > he was talking about the task of chasing up issues involved in trying to > get required package uploads built everywhere, which currently ends up > being a ver

Re: Canonical and Debian

* Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:12:00PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > * Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Clone yourself and make yourself a slave to the buildds for 7 or 8 > > > architectures, so that the release team doesn't have to. Neither

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Matt Zimmerman wrote: heard of Knoppix, Morphix, They do not provide an apt-get - able Debian mirror. They provide free software in .deb format. Not really - as far as you don't consider dpkg-repack they do not really, but we could spent our time better than just splittig

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

On Monday 06 June 2005 01:11 pm, H. S. Teoh wrote: > > Make a version which generates the image on the sending side? > > [...] > > That would be a *very* nice plugin. The bad thing about the current > plugin isn't only the security concern: it requires that the recipient > have the plugin installed

Re: Canonical and Debian

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:22:08PM +0200, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver wrote: > > * Split the architectures over two sets of mirror networks, so that > > mirror administrators don't need 100G just to mirror Debian anymore. > > That sounds retarded in an age where a 200GB HD cost less then 100 Euro...

Re: Canonical and Debian

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 05:39:58PM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 04:50:35PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:00:47PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > Then what do you mean? There are several architectures with porters > > > ready to do hug

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

Le lundi 06 juin 2005 à 13:11 -0700, H. S. Teoh a écrit : > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 04:00:47PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > > > Make a version which generates the image on the sending side? > [...] > > That would be a *very* nice plugin. The bad thing about the current > plugin isn't only

Bug#312269: ITP: emile -- Early Mac Image LoadEr, a bootloader for m68k macs

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: emile Version : 0.9, probably (not released yet, still CVS version at this point) Upstream Author : Laurent Vivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://emile.sf

Re: Canonical and Debian

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:24:14PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:22:08PM +0200, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver wrote: > > > * Split the architectures over two sets of mirror networks, so that > > > mirror administrators don't need 100G just to mirror Debian anymore. > > > >

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:21:26PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Monday 06 June 2005 01:11 pm, H. S. Teoh wrote: > > > Make a version which generates the image on the sending side? > > > > [...] > > > > That would be a *very* nice plugin. The bad thing about the current > > plugin isn't only th

And now for something completely different... etch!

Ok, so sarge has been released! We should all thank the Release Team for their hard work in putting this major release together. But... how about we start discussing about what major release goals we want to set for Etch? So, without further delay, here's my "Etch-wishlist", it's biased on some o

Re: Canonical and Debian

"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Last time I checked, we were all here to help this project build the >> best OS ever. > > Please don't forget world domination. I really decided to start the > process of becoming a NM after Branded told me about his plans for total > world domin

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

On Jun 07, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - _No_ bugs in base packages (well, at least no old bugs). Base system > should be upgraded to latest upstream (forward patches!) this includes > PAM, modutils... In my wishlist there is NO support of 2.4 kernels, so moduti

libselinux1 - required

hi, any progress on making libselinux1 a "Required" package? the possibility of having debian/selinux is totally dependent on this one thing happening. no libselinux1="Required", no debian/selinux [all dependent packages e.g. coreutils will be "policy violations"]. l. -- -- http://lkcl.net";>

Re: List of interface names (eth*, dummy*, ath*, tap*)

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > I'm searching for a list of interface names supported under Debian for > the netspeed GNOME applet, preferably sorted by "user-relevance". There is no such thing as a fixed network name, they can be renamed. However I think you can try to prefer "eth" ov

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

Matt Zimmerman([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 08:38: > > This may already happen but a good start would be to arrange for the > > Ubuntu tools to *automatically* copy bug reports and patches on a > > package to the packages DD. > > > > That way the DD is alerted to the changes in a timely manner. >

Re: libselinux1 - required

* Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > any progress on making libselinux1 a "Required" package? > > the possibility of having debian/selinux is totally dependent > on this one thing happening. > > no libselinux1="Required", no debian/selinux [all dependent packages > e.g. cor

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

Stephen Birch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The question was really this, if Ubuntu created a better bug tracking > program would Debian want to run the new software on the debian > servers thus replacing the current bug tracking programs? Is it better? What I've read about Malone has been pretty

Re: Canonical and Debian

Josselin Mouette wrote: > Then how did these people end up choosing to support the same set of > architectures as Ubuntu? I know this has been discussed to death, but I > still fail to see which problems in Debian the Vancouver proposal can > actually solve. If it's a helpful datapoint, I cannot n

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 12:27:38AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > > Oh, I forgot to mention that if Ubuntu continues to ignore Ian Murdock's > > warnings about breaking compatability with debs, it will end up a fork > > in my book even if most of the underlying code is substan

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

Matt Zimmerman wrote: > Debian does, in fact, treat most of its upstreams precisely this way. > Debian publishes a large portion of its changes primarily in the form of > monolithic diffs relative to upstream source. The last time I saw figures, > the usage of dpatch, cdbs, etc. was rising, but no

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

Colin Watson wrote: > I may start doing so for at least some things, as it would make merging > easier; /people/cjwatson/automount/ is there as a start (though that's > more experimental than Ubuntu-specific). If you want to switch that to branches/ubuntu or something eventually, I think that woul

SCC (was Re: Canonical and Debian)

Wouter Verhelst wrote: > And you can still mirror only part of the archive if you want to save > bandwidth, even today. Indeed, and some of our mirrors are already > doing so. It would, thus, be interesting if we could formalize that > somehow, which is what the first bit of the proposal is all abo

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

Matt Zimmerman wrote: > If all of the patches were to be filed in the BTS, automation would be the > only feasible way to do it. Let's assume that starting tomorrow, every patch that is applied to Ubuntu, that is not Ubuntu-specific, and not something too trivial to worry about (such as the python

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