Re: All GPL'ed programs have to go to non-free

2005-04-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 12:18:45AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 09:33:00PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Cool. Didn't know that. Then again, I've only been using MySQL since a > > few years, so maybe it's normal that I didn't know. > > Which documentation did you use? T

Re: FTBFS for illegal archs

2005-04-16 Thread Nico Golde
Hello Wouter, * Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-04-16 11:56]: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 09:04:34PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > > Hi, > > does anyone knows a solution to let packages FTBFS on > > buildd's which architecure are not supported by the > > software? > > You want to read Policy

Re: FTBFS for illegal archs

2005-04-16 Thread Nico Golde
Hello Gergely, * Gergely Nagy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-04-16 11:56]: > > does anyone knows a solution to let packages FTBFS on > > buildd's which architecure are not supported by the > > software? > > If the arch is not supported by the package, why is it in the packages > Architecture: line to

Re: Cartouches d'encre de la marque de votre imprimante (conseil important)

2005-04-16 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 05:19:12AM +0200, Ghislain Roggemans wrote: > J'ai des listes de prix pour des milliers de cartouche que je vends avec > des marges très faibles, je me propose donc de vous fournir vos > cartouches et toners aux meilleurs prix du marché. Wohoo! And a 1999,- USD donation fo

Re: Bug#271428: mapping unknown timezones

2005-04-16 Thread martin f krafft
Sending to debian-devel because I would like to hear other people's opinions. It's about #271428, as the subject says. Please keep [EMAIL PROTECTED] on CC (I assume GOTO reads -devel). also sprach GOTO Masanori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.04.16.1421 +0200]: > Exactly, the problem is strftime. If yo

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

2005-04-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 12:31:23AM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 05:54:08AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: >... > > Case 1: foo = nvidia binary modules > > Answer: Because these modules are binary-nonly and therefore > > undebuggable for everyone except Nvidia. They give

Re: Bug#271428: mapping unknown timezones

2005-04-16 Thread Martin Dickopp
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sending to debian-devel because I would like to hear other people's > opinions. It's about #271428, as the subject says. Please keep > [EMAIL PROTECTED] on CC (I assume GOTO reads -devel). > > also sprach GOTO Masanori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.04.16.1

Re: Bug#271428: mapping unknown timezones

2005-04-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Martin Dickopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.04.16.1552 +0200]: > Therefore, any actual behavior (including the existing one as well > as the suggested alternatives) would be standard conforming. I don't think I was criticising standards compliance... > >From a QoI point of view, I'd pref

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

2005-04-16 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Saturday 16 April 2005 09:28 am, Adrian Bunk wrote: > The invariant section issues are things you can discuss inside Debian or > with me or with the FSF. But for nearly everyone else the result if you > explain the GFDL problem will be that he thinks that the differences > between free and non-f

Re: Bug#271428: mapping unknown timezones

2005-04-16 Thread Martin Dickopp
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > also sprach Martin Dickopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.04.16.1552 +0200]: >> Therefore, any actual behavior (including the existing one as well >> as the suggested alternatives) would be standard conforming. > > I don't think I was criticising standards

Re: All GPL'ed programs have to go to non-free

2005-04-16 Thread Thomas Hood
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 01:10:10 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Debian's steps of moving more and more things into non-free forces many > users to use non-free who wouldn't do otherwise. > > Is this effect really wanted? Obviously not. One effect that is wanted is for users to have access to an archi

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

2005-04-16 Thread John Hasler
Adrian Bunk wrote: > The invariant section issues are things you can discuss inside Debian or > with me or with the FSF. But for nearly everyone else the result if you > explain the GFDL problem will be that he thinks that the differences > between free and non-free software are pretty small. For

Re: All GPL'ed programs have to go to non-free

2005-04-16 Thread Hubert Chan
> "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Adrian> On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 11:58:52AM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote: >> ... In fact, I've never looked at the gcc documentation other than >> to look up machine-specific options and optimization flags. It's >> easy to use gcc without the

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Re: All GPL'ed programs have to go to non-free

2005-04-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 12:09:08AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Different from what both I and several other people in this thread > stated, the GPL is DFSG-free? In my interpretation, yes. -- The amount of time between slipping on the peel and landing on the pavement is precisely one bananoseco

Bug#304941: ITP: gnome-art -- install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org

2005-04-16 Thread Dan Korostelev
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dan Korostelev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: gnome-art Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Michael Gebhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.miketech.net/gnome-art/ * License : GPL Description : install GNOME

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

2005-04-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 06:14:58AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 11:15:29PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 04:29:42AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > > Is this wanted? > > > > > > This may not be wan

Bug#304948: ITP: boo -- a python-like language and compiler for the CLI

2005-04-16 Thread Sam Clegg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sam Clegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: boo Version : 0.5 Upstream Author : Rodrigo B. de Oliveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://boo.codehaus.org/ * License : Custom. DFSG Compatible. Description : a pyth

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

2005-04-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 05:54:08AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 10:35:36PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > > You present some incredibly strange arguments: you're not arguing that the > > gcc manual is Free, but instead, apparently, saying "we shouldn't move non- > > I'd perso

Re: FTBFS for illegal archs

2005-04-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 12:21:36PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > I read the policy, I know what it says. Okay, good :) (it would've helped if you had mentioned the following in your original mail...) * Jeroen: > Please also try to make your package actually FTBFS on systems not > supporting acpi, i

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

2005-04-16 Thread Matthew Woodcraft
Wouter Verhelst wrote: >A more realistic example would be > >Answer: Because the document contains an invariant section on the > author's opinion regarding the dangers of Software Patents in > the European Union. > >Something like that simply is not free. It might be true at the time th

Re: Cartouches d'encre de la marque de votre imprimante (conseil important)

2005-04-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-04-16 13:49:36, schrieb Lionel Elie Mamane: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 05:19:12AM +0200, Ghislain Roggemans wrote: > > > J'ai des listes de prix pour des milliers de cartouche que je vends avec > > des marges très faibles, je me propose donc de vous fournir vos > > cartouches et toners aux

Re: All GPL'ed programs have to go to non-free

2005-04-16 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 12:30:03PM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote: > > "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Adrian> On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 11:58:52AM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote: > >> ... In fact, I've never looked at the gcc documentation other than > >> to look up machine-specifi