Re: charsets in debian/control

[Roger Leigh] > I've been using Debian with UTF-8 only locales for over 12 months > now. I now consider it fine for general use, with respect to > terminal and application support. Unlike a couple of years ago, most > things work perfectly. Some apps like 'screen' do not just configure themselv

Re: charsets in debian/control

On Tuesday 07 December 2004 00.19, Roger Leigh wrote: > I think going to UTF-8 as the default locale charmap for all locales > is a feasable goal for etch, as is recoding everything to UTF-8 (where > it makes sense). Yep. My biggest problem right now is 'lpr ' to a postscript printer (I use cup

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- (abusive?) erotic images in Debian

On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:35:41PM +1100, Brian May wrote: > > "Tollef" == Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Tollef> | Finally, I would like to commend Michelle Konzack for > Tollef> standing up on | this issue. Debian should never promote | > Tollef> degradation/abus

Re: Duelling banjos or how a sane community goes crazy

Andreas Tille wrote: > I failed in ending this thread when I posted > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/12/msg00016.html > > instead I caused two trolls making even more noise. > > I hope all you people are aware that you are causing a new duelling banjo > case and helping out Go

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- (abusive?) erotic images in Debian

On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 10:04:54AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: > On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:35:41PM +1100, Brian May wrote: > > > "Tollef" == Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Tollef> | Finally, I would like to commend Michelle Konzack for > > Tollef> standing up on

Re: Bug#282742: Move daily find run later

On 2004-12-07 Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Andreas Metzler said: >> On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 05:32:20PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: >>> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004, Andreas Metzler wrote: On 2004-11-24 Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Package:

Re: charsets in debian/control

* Roger Leigh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041207 00:40]: > I think going to UTF-8 as the default locale charmap for all locales > is a feasable goal for etch, as is recoding everything to UTF-8 (where > it makes sense). "feasable goal" and "etch" are the magic words I think: I agree on that, but I don't

Re: Debian package selection depending on user location/belief/society(was bug #283578 hot-babe (AGAIN :-)))

On Tuesday 07 Dec 2004 01:51, Stephen Gran wrote: > I have to say, this is ridiculous. Do I, living in the US or Europe, > have to take into account the laws about sensuality (note, not sexuality, > since these pictures barely qualify for that word) that mirror operators > in Iran or Saudi Arabia

Re: charsets in debian/control

Patrze w ekran, a to Roger Leigh pisze do mnie: > - No UTF-8 console keymaps > - Some broken libraries e.g. GTK+ 1.2 [obsolete] > - I can't paste UTF-8 into emacs (perhaps a problem in my .emacs) - mc making mess with its frames Maciek -- M.Sc. Maciej Dems [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

On Tuesday 07 December 2004 11:22, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 10:01 +1100, Brian May wrote: > > So are you saying I should take my web pages of my naked dogs down? > > Depends on who's prurient interests are appealed to by your naked > dogs. > > Fortunately, thou

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

--- Everton da Silva Marques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 06:12:21PM +0100, Michelle > Konzack wrote: > > > > Am 2004-12-01 13:16:11, schrieb Fernanda Giroleti > Weiden: > > > > > > First of all, it's a sexist package, sure. > Putting a program on Debian > > > in whic

Bug#283578: ITP: hot-banknote -- monetary graphical system activity monitor

> Warning: the 100 French Francs banknote displays the 'Liberty Leading > the People' by Eugène Delacroix which picture the Liberty as a > bare-breasted woman. That's from the fine arts world, so completely different rules apply.. -- Ulf Harnhammar http://www.advogato.org/person/metaur/

Re: Bug#282409: ITP: mozilla-firefox-locale-pt-br -- Firefox Localization Package to Brazilian Portuguese.

On Thu, Nov 25, 2004 at 07:28:39AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > > > Can you indeed give us here the list of mozilla-firefox-locale-xx > > > packages your package currently generates? > > > > For the moment: (..) There is no es_ES. I believe there were mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es packages a

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

Am 2004-12-07 10:39:42, schrieb Fabricio Cannini: > Me wonders if simply NOT installing hot-babe > wouldn't fix this. > IMO Seems to be the easiest solution. In theory ! In many countries it is illegal to have some stuff on CD or other Media. > Don't put it on the CD!! And WHO stores the CD-Im

Re: charsets in debian/control

07.12.2004 Ð 13:33 +0100 Maciej Dems ÑÐÐ(-ÐÐ): > Patrze w ekran, a to Roger Leigh pisze do mnie: > > - No UTF-8 console keymaps > > - Some broken libraries e.g. GTK+ 1.2 [obsolete] > > - I can't paste UTF-8 into emacs (perhaps a problem in my .emacs) > > - mc making mess with its frames > Add

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

--- Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Am 2004-12-07 10:39:42, schrieb Fabricio Cannini: > > > Me wonders if simply NOT installing hot-babe > > wouldn't fix this. > > IMO Seems to be the easiest solution. > > In theory ! In many countries it is illegal > to have some stuff on CD

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 07 December 2004 11:22, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Fortunately, though, pictures of naked dogs are *not* considered >> to be appealing to prurient interests. Unless, *maybe*, a hyper- >> horny 13 year old boy is seeing a pict

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

Am 2004-12-07 11:17:46, schrieb Fabricio Cannini: > I've already seen long, enduring, die-hard threads, > but not like this one. I was soe day offline, and do not know, how many messages this thread have but I think more then 600. And in how many days... > Best to you. Greetings Michelle --

Re: menu-method for .desktop files?

On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 11:47:16PM +, Peter Collingbourne wrote: > On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 07:34:45PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > > Hello, > > I have written the menu method, but I did not test it. > > > > Please find it here: > > > > You will

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

On Wednesday 08 December 2004 01:09, Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Fortunately, though, pictures of naked dogs are *not* considered > >> to be appealing to prurient interests. Unless, *maybe*, a hyper- > >> horny 13 year old boy is seeing a picture of dogs copulating, and > >> not i

Re: charsets in debian/control

On Tuesday 07 December 2004 12:44 am, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > Defining the character set as utf-8 means that any non-unicode > > capable application is going to have issues, yes. > > Postulate an app that is ignorant of character sets - we'll call it > "aptitude". Fixing it to make it accept ut

Re: charsets in debian/control

On Tuesday 07 December 2004 10:17 am, Daniel Burrows wrote: > complex replacement string class Admittedly, "complex" might (hypothetically) be a bit of an exaggeration. :P Daniel -- /--- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --\ | You are in a maze of

Re: charsets in debian/control

On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 10:17:17AM -0500, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Tuesday 07 December 2004 12:44 am, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > And if the app already deals with charset conversions but assumes > > iso-8859-1 input, then it's trivial to fix it to assume utf-8 input. > > This is not true. > >

Re: charsets in debian/control

Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > iso-8859-1 is an 8-bit charset, while Unicode is a 32-bit [0] charset. =20 > Storing and manipulating iso-8859-1 strings requires no changes to internal= >=20 > datatypes (only conversions for input and output); storing and manipulating= >=20 > Unicode

Re: charsets in debian/control

On Tuesday 07 December 2004 10:40 am, Richard Atterer wrote: > No, you do not have to do this. You can keep working with "char", the > changes when switching to UTF-8 will mostly have to deal with the fact that > one Unicode character is represented by more than one char. This means that > you need

Bug#284642: ITP: dpkg-reversion -- change the version of a DEB file

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: dpkg-reversion Version : 0.1.5 Upstream Author : martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://madduck.net/~madduck/scratch/dpkg-reversion * License : Artistic Description : change the version of a DEB

Re: charsets in debian/control

Steve Langasek writes, > ... most of the letters you listed here are specific > to the IPA, which would have no use at all in a > control file as they're not part of the writing system > of any natural language. Ok. > Encodings and charsets are distinct concepts. Just > because the file is spec

Re: charsets in debian/control

On Dec 07, "Thaddeus H. Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > UTF-8 is neat, but I do not really like Unicode (you may Actually you do not even understand it, because this sentence is meaningless. -- ciao, | Marco | [9639 coubl1Ib61SmA] signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 09:25:31PM +0100, Andrea Bedini wrote: > Il giorno lun, 06-12-2004 alle 01:49 +, Andrew Suffield ha scritto: > > Word games. Censorship is when a citizen of one body chooses to have > > that body distribute something (by being a citizen and distributing > > it), and anot

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:51:59AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Editing would be if the maintainer decided to remove the > > package. Censorship is when some other developer tries to force him. > > If an ftp-master in the course of "doing the work" of processing NEW rejects > a package, or a m

Re: Bug#282742: Move daily find run later

This one time, at band camp, Andreas Metzler said: > On 2004-12-07 Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This one time, at band camp, Andreas Metzler said: > >> On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 05:32:20PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > >>> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004, Andreas Metzler wrote: > On 2004-11

Re: package rejection

On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 10:10:19AM +1100, Brian May wrote: > I think it would be better to create a distribution of Debian, where > applicable, that meets the legal requirements of the given country. > > That way if you do really want to distribute Debian where there are > laws against XYZ, you ca

Re: Re: RFH: compiling java with kaffe/jikes/ant

Is Debian a common carrier? Was: package rejection

Andrew Suffield wrote: Also, in much of the civilised world, once you start doing this you suddenly acquire a legal responsibility to do it *right*, which you wouldn't have had if you hadn't tried to do it. It's more complicated than that. I think what you are talking about is the fact that a c

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 10:32:14 +, Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Monday 06 Dec 2004 10:01, Andrew Suffield wrote: >> The difference being that editing is a choice made by the person >> doing the work, while censorship is a choice made by an otherwise >> unrelated person in the same o

Re: Is Debian a common carrier? Was: package rejection

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 11:41:42 -0800, Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I don't think we have the slightest chance of proving to any court > that Debian is a common carrier, given the several inches of policy > manual that specify the nature of the content, etc. Say what? Where is t

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 20:31 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Tuesday 07 December 2004 11:22, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 10:01 +1100, Brian May wrote: > > > So are you saying I should take my web pages of my naked dogs down? > > > > Depends on who's prurient int

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

On Tuesday 07 Dec 2004 20:26, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > I don't think this holds. Censoring is editing for ideological > > reasons, which is a subset of editing. It has nothing to do with who > > does it. A censor is a third party, and editor is a third party, at > > least in literary terms. > >

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So you have no objections to bestiality web sites then? The assumption here is that one must either have no objections, or else have objections and then proceed to object and want things removed. Perhaps I have misunderstood you, but there are many who

Re: Is Debian a common carrier? Was: package rejection

Manoj Srivastava wrote: Oh, and if we do not specify what the nature of what we package, would it be easier to prove we merely carry packages? That would really be nice. A common carrier carries content from one external point to another as directed by the parties exchanging the content without

Re: Depending on Virtual Packages (Public Service Announcement)

Daniel Burrows debian.org> writes: > When your package Depends upon or Recommends a pure-virtual package P, you > should always OR the dependency with a dependency on something that provides > P, As a totally offtopic suggestion, how come APT doesn't handle virtual packages the way Fink does,

Re: menu-method for .desktop files?

On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 03:35:45PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 11:47:16PM +, Peter Collingbourne wrote: > > > > This is a good start, now the question is how to integrate this into > > the system. > > > > To tell you the truth I have also been working on a similar t

Re: charsets in debian/control

[Thaddeus H. Black] > UTF-8 is neat, but I do not really like Unicode (you may [Marco d'Itri] > Actually you do not even understand it, because this sentence is > meaningless. Perhaps he is aware of the difference between Unicode and ISO-10646? UTF-8 is an encoding of ISO-10646.

Re: Is Debian a common carrier? Was: package rejection

Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>Oh, and if we do not specify what the nature of what we package, would it be >>easier to prove we merely carry packages? That would really be nice. >> > > A common carrier carries content from one external point to another as

Re: Depending on Virtual Packages (Public Service Announcement)

On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 09:45:33PM +, Ari Pollak wrote: > Daniel Burrows debian.org> writes: > > When your package Depends upon or Recommends a pure-virtual package P, > > you > > should always OR the dependency with a dependency on something that > > provides > > P, > As a totally offt

Re: menu-method for .desktop files?

Hello, I have discussed on IRC with Chis Cheney (menu-xdg/KDE maintainer) and we have a different plan: kdebase include .desktop files for wm that are translated and we will not have time to move the translations to the menu system before sarge release, so it seems better to keep these .desktop f

RE: charsets in debian/control

Thaddeus H. Black wrote: > However, the typical roster of skills one masters in contributing > broadly to Debian development is already awesome: C, C++, CPP, Make, > Perl, Python, Autoconf, CVS, Shell, Glibc, System calls, /proc, IPC, > sockets, Sed, Awk, Vi, Emacs, locales, Libdb, GnuPG, Readline,

Re: Is Debian a common carrier? Was: package rejection

Goswin von Brederlow wrote: But that would not include any debian mirror, they would be common carrier? A mirror operator in general does make choices about the content carried on the mirror. The closest analogy that would already have been litigated is a Cable TV system. The U.S. FCC de

Re: Is Debian a common carrier? Was: package rejection

On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 16:48 -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > But that would not include any debian mirror, they would be common carrier? > > > A mirror operator in general does make choices about the content > carried on the mirror. The closest analogy that would alre

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

Il giorno mar, 07-12-2004 alle 18:37 +, Andrew Suffield ha scritto: > > This is not the case: one member of a community chooses to do something > > on which community doesn't agree. So community decides to not follow his > > member and *let him do what he wants by his own*. Debian should not d

Re: Duelling banjos or how a sane community goes crazy

On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 08:12:50AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > I failed in ending this thread when I posted > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/12/msg00016.html > > instead I caused two trolls making even more noise. Without having read your post, I'm pretty confident th

Re: Is Debian a common carrier? Was: package rejection

On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 02:36:35PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 11:41:42 -0800, Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > I don't think we have the slightest chance of proving to any court > > that Debian is a common carrier, given the several inches of policy > > manua

SVG icons

SVG use is increasing and I have seen nothing in Debian about how they should be handled. So, What is the proper way to handle svg icons? For example, where should they be placed? How well are they supported? Should a non-svg icon also be included? -- James (Jay) Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED]