On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:51:59AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Editing would be if the maintainer decided to remove the > > package. Censorship is when some other developer tries to force him. > > If an ftp-master in the course of "doing the work" of processing NEW rejects > a package, or a member of the release team in the course of "doing the work" > of preparing the next stable release excludes a package from consideration, > is this editing, or is it censorship?
<snip> All of those things could be either. It is precisely because the boundaries are not clear that we must stay away from them. That's the reason why everybody who starts down the path of censorship ends up in the same place. > It's extremely frustrating to see so many words spent on the notion of > "censorship" here. At the end of the day, Debian, *as an organization*, > has the right (and responsibility) to decide what it publishes on behalf of > its member developers, and doing so is *not* *censorship*. It can be. In the proposed scenario it would be. > And it's no wonder that Debian is slow to release when people are criticized > on public lists for showing an interest in the contents and quality of > packages that aren't theirs; for daring to ask the question, "is this > something that Debian needs?" Nobody in this thread has seriously asked that question. > This discussion shouldn't be about censorship, or other forms of coercion; Aye, but it is, and that line of thinking needs to be stopped while we still can. Frankly the package is irrelevant to this discussion, and the subject line is misleading. > And contrary to much of > the rhetoric in this thread, it is possible to think a package like hot-babe > is a bad idea without wanting to be set up as a censor for all ideas they > disagree with. However, it's extremely unlikely that it is possible to ban it for that reason without going down that path. There's a significant difference between thinking something is a bad idea and trying to stop it. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- |
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