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On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:41, Andrew Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, I was wondering how to go about taking the source package for
> 2.4.23-686 (and the SMP version) and backport them to stable?
Why not just use a machine running unstable to do the compile?
I use unstable machines to compile
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 02:36:37AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
| Right, that's what I just described (later on). The thread had
| previously been about people wanting to throw away the Debian menu
| system and replace it with the .desktop one, or worse, have both
| coexist.
If we can convert me
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 05:59:40PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:41, Andrew Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So, I was wondering how to go about taking the source package for
> > 2.4.23-686 (and the SMP version) and backport them to stable?
>
> Why not just use a machin
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On 2003-12-04 10:41, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> > Can you say who the flavors people, the metadistros people and the
> > subproject people were? I'd like to make contact with all of these to
> > get more detail
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On 2003-12-03 21:58, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, cobaco wrote:
> > hm, I've added a definition to the wiki:
> >
> > A Custom Debian Distribution (CDD) is a version of Debian that is
> > tailored
>
> I do not like the term "version". I
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 05:37:49PM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote:
> I did what you are trying to do using systemimager, cvs, and cvsup.
> ... There are a few rough spots (mostly in that I don't have a fully
> automatic way to restart daemons that have been updated in the golden
> client, so I have to
Hi James,
first let me thank you for your good work so far on the recovery of the
debian machines. I just wanted to add one note:
On [05/12/03 1:51], James Troup wrote:
> Use the anonymous upload queue on ftp-master. I believe you want to
> use something like "dupload --to anonymous-ftp-master
Chad Walstrom said on Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 02:17:55AM -0600:
> > I did what you are trying to do using systemimager, cvs, and cvsup.
> > ... There are a few rough spots (mostly in that I don't have a fully
> > automatic way to restart daemons that have been updated in the golden
> > client, so I h
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 01:45:37PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:18, Steve Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 12:10:44PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> > > Are you using any extra patches to GCC? Or just a GCC built with the
> > > propolice option?
> >
Billy Biggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Greenland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>> On 04-Dec-03, 14:44 (CST), Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > There's now a standard used by KDE and GNOME which has more features
>> > than the Debian menu system.
>> And missing one key one: working w
Tore Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Marc Haber
> > The source package holds infrastructure for three possibilities:
> >
> > - A script is included that splits out -config source from the source
> > package, allowing the debconf stuff to be modified independently
> > - A script is includ
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, cobaco wrote:
> > There are no changes to Debian, because CDDs reside completely in
> > main / testing /unstable as any other package.
>
> _ideally_ there are no changes. In practice there will be. For instance:
> In skolelinux there's currently a package called locale-config-s
Tore Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Marc Haber
> > Splitting up the config file in small files was necessary to do
> > debconf support, which is a Debian requirement.
> Debconf support is now required? I'm flabbergasted. Could you
> please point me to this section of our policy? I ce
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 20:18, John Goerzen wrote:
> Debian Enterprise will have to support 64-bit platforms, which
> OpenOffice doesn't.
..yet. That will be fixed by 2.0 at the latest. Help is appreciated.
Chris
* Matt Zimmerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031204 22:25]:
> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 03:58:38PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 02:41:43PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > > What kind of real world attacks do signed debs prevent?
> > >
> > > The only one which comes to mind i
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, cobaco wrote:
> hm, here are the names I can remember:
>
> Petter , me, (Kurt Gramlich, Maximillian Wilhelm, Frank Matthieß -> not on
> devel as far as I know) from Skolelinux
>
> Mako, Enrico who organized the meeting
>
> David Martinez (I think), and one or two others from Me
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:36:16 +0100, Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Before we make such a push, we should at least ensure that it is
>> something we really want to do. I think locally generated checksums
>> are a better solution.
> To me, the main use of md5
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:52:21 -0800, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:43:21AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Snippy, aren't we? Usually it is better to have basic logic
>> straight before you try for a mistaken sense of haughtiness.
> My logic is correct; apparently m
Let me start by saying I basically understand your last point: it's not
worth it because it won't work.
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 04:01:42AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> who follow secire processes. Blowing 40k collectively is unlikely to
> buy us much security.
Like I said, it may be that i
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:18:46 -0600, Chad Walstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 04:49:45PM -0200, Felipe Almeida Lessa
> wrote:
>> I think only one thing is blocking the whole idea of moving from
>> Debian Menu style to freedesktop.org style: the work that need to
>> be done.
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:44:56 -0500, Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Frankly, I'm not clear why there's opposition to adopting the
> freedesktop draft specifications in Debian.
I use neither gnome nor KDE. My window manager of choice shows
me the Debian entries in the menu.
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:41:43 -0500, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 12:28:41PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:47:50 -0500, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> said:
>>
>> > What kind of real world attacks do signed debs prevent? Not a
* Tore Anderson
> * Andreas Metzler
>
> > Would you and Andreas seriously consider modifying the Exim packages
> > to the layout I suggested in my former post? If so, I would be happy
> > to spend some time developing a patch for this purpose.
Apologies for this misattribution, I was
* Andreas Metzler
> Would you and Andreas seriously consider modifying the Exim packages
> to the layout I suggested in my former post? If so, I would be happy
> to spend some time developing a patch for this purpose.
* Andreas Metzler
> No, I am sorry (and thanks for the offer). You effec
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On 2003-12-05 11:16, Andreas Tille wrote:
> their fine work. I really love what they do and SkoleLinux is one of the
> most impressive derivatives of Debian, but it just does not (yet) fall
> under our definition.]
huh ?! How do you figure that?
Sko
Hi,
The package plucker has 2 RC bugs. The lastest upload is dated 1 Dec
2002 (one year ago!). The package was orphaned (#160472, 11 Sep 2002)
and adopted by Pablo S. Torralba.
Pablo S. Torralba was/is not yet a DD and the last upload was sponsored
by Amaya Rodrigo Sastre.
The two RC bugs are ve
Zenaan Harkness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 05:49, Felipe Almeida Lessa wrote:
>> > On Thursday 04 December 2003 13:19, Andrew Suffield wrote:
>> > The other question is "how hard could it be to adapt menu to desktop files
>> > ?".
>> I think only one thing is blocking the w
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 10:42:28PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> That's what the debian-cd package is for.
Thanks, that was exactly what I was looking for :)
Steve
--
Will code for food.
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> As for me, I'm happy to provide either my current menu files, which are
> supported by all of the DE/WM systems in Debian, *or* .desktop files,
> *when* they are supported by all (or at least most) the DE/WM systems in
> Debian.
If everybody waits the .
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On 2003-12-05 11:06, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, cobaco wrote:
> > > There are no changes to Debian, because CDDs reside completely in
> > > main / testing /unstable as any other package.
> >
> > _ideally_ there are no changes. In practi
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
[...]
>>
>> I don't think that this is the case. As I understand it, .desktop files
>> have the advantage that they are already shipped by a number of upstream
>> packages, support i18n better than Debian menus, are supported natively
>> by KDE and Gno
Fabian Fagerholm, on 2003-12-04, 20:47, you wrote:
> The way Debian Enterprise has been described, it would provide you with
> this option. But you may also want to move "apt-get install samba" and
> the related session of tweaking samba's options to suit your network, to
> the install phase. Imagi
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, cobaco wrote:
> On 2003-12-05 11:16, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > their fine work. I really love what they do and SkoleLinux is one of the
> > most impressive derivatives of Debian, but it just does not (yet) fall
> > under our definition.]
>
> huh ?! How do you figure that?
Pleas
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Joerg Wendland wrote:
> Sure, but configuration of the samba package should be the
> responsibility of this package. What the Debian Enterprise project
> should do is to work with the samba maintainer to achieve this and
> maybe provide some sort of special configuration packa
James Troup wrote:
> As part of the recovery process, db.debian.org has migrated, both to a
> new host (because the old box was on it's last legs and HP kindly
> donated a shiny new one to replace it), and to a newer version of LDAP
> (because it was still using potato's OpenLDAP).
Which exact ver
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:30, Andrew Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 05:59:40PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:41, Andrew Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > So, I was wondering how to go about taking the source package for
> > > 2.4.23-686 (and
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Billy Biggs wrote:
>> So far there has been a lot of support for the .desktop standard
>> effort. Which systems do you refer to that are not supporting,
>> adopting, or intending to adopt the .desktop standard?
>
> Some or all of: twm, pdmenu, blackbox, aft
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 12:34:22AM +0100, Raphael Goulais wrote:
>> On Wednesday 03 December 2003 21:31, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> > I agree. I would like to see .desktop standard adopted. There have been
>> > a few threads I have seen so far, and there
Ludovic Rousseau dijo:
> Why not. It may be a good solution.
IMHO, Co-m rules :-)
> I will upload my NMU to correct the two RC bugs in DELAYED/7-day as
> explained in [1]. So he has enough/some time to fix the bugs himself
> and upload a new version.
I will make sure he does ;-)
--
.''`.A
Le vendredi 05 décembre 2003 à 12:38:10, Amaya a écrit:
> I was out to the movies with him yesterday, he is not MIA or anything.
> We even talked about plucker's state. He is in the proccess of fixing
> the bugs.
Good news.
> Comanteinance may be an option?
Why not. It may be a good solution.
I
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:30, Andrew Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 05:59:40PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
>> > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:41, Andrew Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > So, I was
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:32, "Miquel van Smoorenburg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmm, last week I compiled a 2.4.23 kernel on my "unstable" desktop,
> created a kernel-image package with make-kpgp, and it didn't
> install on a plain woody machine. The "depmod" part failed.
>
> On the 'stable' machin
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 21:16, Andreas Tille wrote:
> [BTW, declaring that SkoleLinux as "no CDD" ... is one of the most
> impressive derivatives of Debian, but it just does not (yet) fall under our
> definition.]
So we have:
Debian, parent project & parent GNU/Linux Distribution
|
+-
Ludovic Rousseau dijo:
> The two RC bugs are very easy to fix but nothing was done.
> I plan to do an NMU to correct these two RC bugs so that plucker can
> be released in sarge.
I am not the one to decide, but go ahead.
> I also plan to adopt plucker and package a new upstream version
> (Debian
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 04:08:41 -0600, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escreveu:
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:18:46 -0600, Chad Walstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 04:49:45PM -0200, Felipe Almeida Lessa
> > wrote:
> >> I think only one thing is blocking the whole idea o
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 01:17:08PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
| Thing is, none of this matters. If upstream support .desktop files,
| then we just run them through the script that converts them to Debian
| menu entries while installing. dh_installmenu would be a good place to
| do this.
|
| Th
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 03:02:42PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote:
> | Yeah, inverted the sense, you get the idea. We need both tools, at
> | which point there's no longer a reason not to just continue using the
> | existing Debian menu system.
>
> Except that AFAIK .desktops are still semantically
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:16:56AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Please see my previous mail and try to accept that while absolutely
> incomplete the common entry point for CDDs is:
>
> http://www.debian.org/devel/
>
> under the topic "Projects".
Right, this page is (1) out of date and (
Hi,
I have a local package pool which contains backports to woody. To be
able to do package pinning, I have Release files containing the
following:
Archive: woody
Component: main|contrib|non-free
Architectures: i386
Origin: mysite
Label: mysite/woody
Description: foobar
my sources.list lines are
#include
* Andrew Pollock [Fri, Dec 05 2003, 03:41:14PM]:
> Is it as simple as taking the source package and building it in a stable
> pbuilder chroot, or is there more black magic involved with kernel packages?
AFAIK you need at least updated modutils and procps. And you should use
the default
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 03:03:39AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>
> > Signed debs establish a trust chain from the buildd to the user and
> > from the buildd-admin/maintainer to the user as well as copy the
> > existing trust chain from ftp-maste
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 08:07:53AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>
> > I wrote a little script that checks what apt things its installing
> > against what the control files of the debs say. I will test it with
> > some more fakes and then file it
"Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031204 15:05]:
> > > I also think it is hardly possible to regenerate the .md5sums file
> > > in a way the signature will be kept. It would need to never change
> > > which files are included and how they
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 04 Dec 2003 02:44:31 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > "Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> * Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031203 20:12]:
> >> > Before we make such a push, we should at least ens
Javier =?iso-8859-15?Q?Fern=E1ndez-Sanguino_Pe=F1a?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [Manoj, I'm going to concentrate on this example, it's probably a corner
> case and I'm probably digressing here ... oh well]
>
> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:17:46AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > > Finally,
Steve Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 12:10:44PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:39, Steve Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > ? I've been experimenting with producing a hardened Debian derivitive
> > > ?as a small piece of paid work. ?This mostly
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 01:58:27PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> Much of this patch is scheduled to be included in 2.4.24, so the work
> required
Who claims that?
Andrew Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 05:59:40PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:41, Andrew Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > So, I was wondering how to go about taking the source package for
> > > 2.4.23-686 (and the SMP version) and bac
Steve Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I wasn't going to post this, but it might be relevent to the
> ongoing custom distribution stuff that's happening.
>
> I've been experimenting with producing a hardened Debian derivitive
> as a small piece of paid work. This mostly means compiling
Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Dec 3, 2003, at 21:07, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> >
> > You can just as well just check all the debs. gunzip doesn't take
> > longer, the slowest thing usually is the cdrom.
>
> True, so I should probably just put the md5sums files on my CD,
"Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031204 18:00]:
> > >> The md5sum file should be generated at build time, signed and only
> > >> the signature kept. The signature is small enough not to cause
> > >> bloat, it can be included in the Package fi
Em Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:55:21 +0800, Cameron Patrick escreveu:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 01:17:08PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
>
> | Thing is, none of this matters. If upstream support .desktop files,
> | then we just run them through the script that converts them to Debian
> | menu entries whil
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On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, cobaco wrote:
> hm, as far as I know Debian-edu is nothing more then a couple of
> task-packages at this point (and some education packages that got added to
> the archive)
I do not compare the quality of Debian-Edu or SkoleLinux - I just want to
use the right term. Yes, Skole
On 05-Dec-03, 05:54 (CST), Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > As for me, I'm happy to provide either my current menu files, which are
> > supported by all of the DE/WM systems in Debian, *or* .desktop files,
> > *when* they are supported by al
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 03:20:45AM -0600, cobaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> _ideally_ there are no changes. In practice there will be.
Why?
> For instance:
> In skolelinux there's currently a package called locale-config-skolelinux
> which sets up de default locale for all users. This package i
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
> I will personally move forward with this as soon as I get access to
> CVS.
Thanks. This would be much appreciated.
> Andreas, perhaps you missed this message:
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200309/msg00
(no need to CC: me as I'm subscribe)
> > Why do we have to make each of our users find a solution to generate this
> > from a _local_ mirror (or the system's .deb archive which shoulnd't be
> > trusted in the event of an intrusion) when we could do this ourselves and
> > provide the results?
>
>
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 10:20:19AM +0100, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote:
> > I believe that our GCC packages already have propolice patched in but not
> > enabled. Therefore it should be a much easier change to make for it to be
> > included.
>
> This is true, debian/patches has a line
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Chad Walstrom wrote:
> I was intrigued by Progeny's autoinstall Python script, but never had a
> chance to look into it further.
Progeny no longer maintains autoinstall, but I have picked it up and
continue to use, maintain, and enhance it. If you haven't looked at it in
a
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 01:13:57AM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote:
> FAI is good, but it doesn't handle updating the systems once you have
> them installed.
You're absolutely right. The cfengine scripts are also slightly
difficult to re-use after the initial installation. A good cfengine
setup is ha
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 12:24:07AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Release signing protects against a hostile or compromised mirror,
> > network, DNS server, proxy server, and a host of other, similar attacks,
> > and also prevents most forms
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:36:20AM -0400, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> Then that discussion needs to be resolved so that a solution can be made
> that is in Debian main.
It's useful to try to clarify the terms so people can speak the same
language, but as soon as you categorize anything somebody's go
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 09:23:52AM -0600, cobaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2003-12-05 11:06, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > Well, at least for my understanding SkoleLinux is not a "Custom Debian
> > Distribution" exactly because they have packages which are not integrated
> > in Debian. This is no
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:43:39 +1000, Anthony Towns
wrote:
>The one that gets installed later, Pre-Deps the one that gets installed
>earlier. exim4-daemon Pre-Depends: exim4-config; exim4-config Depends:
>exim4-base, probably.
Unfortunately, that doesn't work. apt immediately bombs out with "E:
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* Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031205 16:11]:
> With replaced files being kept you can recalculate correct md5sum
> lists for A and B at any time in any combination of installed
> packages. But even if it fails due to some bug you will only get a
> false negative. Then you download the
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 19:24:28 +0100, Marc Haber
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:43:39 +1000, Anthony Towns
> wrote:
>>Maybe an easy way of answering that is to instead answer this: why can't
>>you just make the -config package a bunch of files and a script that
>>doesn't get execut
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 04:08:41AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > ... It only stands to reason that if both the KDE and Gnome desktop
> > camps wish to formalize on the format that we should adopt it as
> > well, if only as an extension of our menu system. We would
> > have to generate .deskto
Chad Walstrom said on Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 10:05:15AM -0600:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 01:13:57AM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote:
> > FAI is good, but it doesn't handle updating the systems once you have
> > them installed.
>
> You're absolutely right. The cfengine scripts are also slightly
> difficu
Hello,
maybe Adamantix is what you are wanting to do. It is based on Debian woody and
uses kernel and gcc patches to improve security. At the moment you need to
install a normal Debian woody and then upgrade. However, you might create
installation CDs yourselve. For more information about Adaman
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 01:44:40PM +0100, Ludovic Rousseau wrote:
> Le vendredi 05 décembre 2003 à 12:38:10, Amaya a écrit:
> > I was out to the movies with him yesterday, he is not MIA or anything.
> > We even talked about plucker's state. He is in the proccess of fixing
> > the bugs.
>
> [...]
>
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 04:54, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > The only one which comes to mind is a rogue Debian developer that
> > you do not wish to trust, even though the project trusts him.
>
> Not quite. The signed deb is non-repudiable authorship -- nice
> to know whence the software come
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 19:06, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > Actually, I think the biggest benefit of md5sums is that while
> > attackers certainly could modify them, often they don't. While passing
> > debsums certainly can't prove the integrity of a system, debsums
> > failing can certainly prov
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 11:11, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> That is but one optimization: we already are suffering from
> archive bloat, what about the disk and bandwidth cost of carrying
> around the sigs? And since one rarely needs the md5sums anyway, what
> is so wrong with checking agains
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 20:46, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Because without preventing tampering (even accidental) of the md5sums
> file its quite useless.
I want to check if anything on my system was corrupted after a recent
bout of fun with fsck. The md5sums are quite useful for that.
signatur
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 06:37:47PM +0100, Jakob Lell wrote:
> maybe Adamantix is what you are wanting to do. It is based on Debian woody
> and
> uses kernel and gcc patches to improve security. At the moment you need to
> install a normal Debian woody and then upgrade. However, you might create
Maybe remove the pid file before killing, not after? If it resists
our best attempts at killing. including -9, that would be a different
bug, and leaving a pid file would be useless anyway? Just a guess.
Mathieu Roy wrote:
> If it is just a matter of time, the transition can be done step by
> step: the first step is just to say that this transition should be
> done.
>
> It doesn't need to be done in two days, does it? If new packages start
> directly with .desktop and others packages move to .desk
Mathieu Roy wrote:
> >> So far there has been a lot of support for the .desktop standard
> >> effort. Which systems do you refer to that are not supporting,
> >> adopting, or intending to adopt the .desktop standard?
> >
> > Some or all of: twm, pdmenu, blackbox, afterstep, fluxbox, gtk-menu,
>
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 12:24:07AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>
> > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Release signing protects against a hostile or compromised mirror,
> > > network, DNS server, proxy server, and a host of o
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On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 01:53:11PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> The nearest I have seen is fink, but I know little about it.
>
> Am I missing something?
apt-src, apparently.
--
- mdz
Following the suggestion in the recent message to
debian-devel-announce, I tried using dupload to upload to the
anonymous queue. Soon I got back this message:
--
Subject: Processing of autoconf_2.58-9_i386.changes
PGP/GnuPG sign
Hello,
For various reasons [1], I am interested in building Debian from source
-- and continuing to do so for upgrades and newly-installed packages.
What I'm after is basically something where I can say:
apt-foo install kde
The system will then:
1. Look at kde and build/install any of its b
Scripsit Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Mathieu Roy wrote:
> > It doesn't need to be done in two days, does it? If new packages start
> > directly with .desktop and others packages move to .desktop in the
> > next year, it does not seems to be an awful load of extra work.
> If that happened then
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 01:13:57AM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote:
> FAI is good, but it doesn't handle updating the systems once you have them
> installed.
with a few modifications you can do this...
i did a fork of FAI 2.3, which is used in my department for
installations and updates. much of my work
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 03:02:29PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 01:53:11PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
>
> > The nearest I have seen is fink, but I know little about it.
> >
> > Am I missing something?
>
> apt-src, apparently.
Well, not really. apt-src doesn't integrat
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