Re: a question about BTS severities

1999-09-28 Thread Herbert Xu
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Herbert Xu wrote: >> >> I disagree. If a package causes a remote root exploit to be available, even >> if it's only in a very specific configuration, I would say that it is >> critical. > No, it's grave. All security bugs are grave, it's part of the defini

Re: /usr/share/doc?

1999-09-28 Thread cavok
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 03:35:12PM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > >package itself due to problems with dpkg. One reasonable way to accomplish >this is to put the following in the package's postinst: > >if [ "$1" = "configure" ]; then > if [ -d /usr/doc -a ! -e /usr/doc

Re: a question about BTS severities

1999-09-28 Thread Joey Hess
Herbert Xu wrote: > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Herbert Xu wrote: > >> > >> I disagree. If a package causes a remote root exploit to be available, > >> even > >> if it's only in a very specific configuration, I would say that it is > >> critical. > > > No, it's grave. All security

Re: a question about BTS severities

1999-09-28 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* "Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Joey> (Note: grave is a _higher_ priotity than critical. I don't think so. http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities The severity levels are: critical makes unrelated software on the system (or the whole system) break, or caus

Re: Useless packages (was Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb)

1999-09-28 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 11:43:50AM +0100, Matthew Vernon wrote: > David Starner writes: > > Instead of each developer chose what packages are and aren't useful > > to them, why don't we look at the popularity contest? A simple, bias-free > > way of seperating programs on to the CD's, by actual

Re: a question about BTS severities

1999-09-28 Thread Bdale Garbee
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > What do other think, and have you seen seeing the same runaway bug severity > inflation I have? Yes. Submitters seem to think that if they crank up the severity, the bug will get more/quicker attention. At least in my case, that just isn't true. I'm

Re: /usr/share/doc?

1999-09-28 Thread Darren O. Benham
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 11:19:05PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 03:35:12PM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > > >package itself due to problems with dpkg. One reasonable way to > > accomplish > >this is to put the following in the package's postinst: > >

ITP: bonobo

1999-09-28 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
The bonobo framework for GNOME componentry has just hit its first public release. I intend to package it up. See attachment for details. Mike. --- Begin Message --- Hello guys, I have just released the first public version of Bonobo (bonobo-0.4), the GNOME component system and compound do

Re: a question about BTS severities

1999-09-28 Thread Herbert Xu
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 05:30:51PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > > > > Actually, it should be critical if it's a root exploit. Grave only includes > > those that only comprise the user's account. > > Last I checked, root is a user. This is not a formal definition we're > working from, please use com

Re: Status of new packages in Incoming?

1999-09-28 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 11:22:32AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > I think the key difference is that if some one screws with the BTS or > the Debian web site, it's not going to *me* any harm during the time > it takes to discover and undo the damage. If someone installs a bad or > malicious libc6

Re: Censoring :) (was: Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb)

1999-09-28 Thread Siggy Brentrup
Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > if it's free and it's packaged then we accept it into the dist in the > location defined by policy - at the moment, that's debian main. we > probably should, as has been discussed before, have an etexts and a data > section for this kind of stuff

Re: a question about BTS severities

1999-09-28 Thread Steve Greenland
On 27-Sep-99, 11:33 (CDT), Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > grave > makes the package in question unuseable or mostly so, or causes data > loss, or introduces a security hole allowing access to the accounts of > users who use the package. > > I've noticed that in many of

Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb

1999-09-28 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Ed Boraas wrote: > I can't help but infer from this statement that you feel the anarchism > package is of low worth. If this was not your intent, please feel free to > clarify. For myself, no I don't. But it is only a concern of Debian if for instance there was a real space

Re: a question about BTS severities

1999-09-28 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Greenland wrote: > It's clear to you, but perhaps not to the user who submitted it; > for him/her, it "makes the package in question unuseable". You look > at it, realize that it's unique to that user, and send a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] to re-priotize it. What's the big deal? Aside fr

Re: Censoring :) (was: Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb)

1999-09-28 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Raul Miller wrote: > On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 11:46:39AM +0200, Siggy Brentrup wrote: > > Is it really censoring to keep all non-technical packages out of main? > > I don't say don't package it nor don't make it available. > > Maybe it's time to fork off an independent documen

Re: Status of new packages in Incoming?

1999-09-28 Thread Joey Hess
Raul Miller wrote: > Which implies that we should validate packages against developer's key > before install, and that we should have some kind of list indicating > which developers are working on which package for which architecture > which is maintained under tighter control than the mirrors. > >

Re: Censoring :) (was: Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb)

1999-09-28 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On 28 Sep 1999, Siggy Brentrup wrote: > More serious: > Hahaha. > customer: I found a typo ... > |I don't understand that ancient word (very likely in over here) > | Luther's bible says ... but what you sold me is completely > different. > > |Why do you incl

Re: Censoring :) (was: Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb)

1999-09-28 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 12:05:37AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > Why even involve debhelper? At least in the case of the Project Gutenberg > files some of which I have, they are just long ascii files so the rules > file could just stick them into (for example) /usr/share/doc/etexts call > doc-ba

Re: /usr/share/doc?

1999-09-28 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 06:10:58PM -0700, Darren O. Benham wrote: > As of the latest upload of lintian, it does not like shell variables in the > place of the package name.. it looks for "\w+" after the "/usr/doc/" Please fix that. I'm not going to add to the possibility of a major screwup by edi

Re: [RHSA-1999:035-02] Updated XFree86 3.3.5 packages available

1999-09-28 Thread Branden Robinson
My apologies if you replied to the mail quoted below; I never received one. As far as I can tell, Red Hat's webpages have not been updated with the corrected information. Are there any plans to do so? On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 12:30:04AM -0400, branden wrote: > Hi Preston, > > In Red Hat's recent

Re^2: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-28 Thread Marco Budde
Am 25.09.99 schrieb roland # spinnaker.de ... Moin Roland! RR> > Why? What is the advantage of using doc-base? RR> It is always a good idea to use a generic format which can RR> automatically converted to all useful formats instead of using one RR> special format. No, sorry, but this is wrong. W

Re: Re^2: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-28 Thread Joey Hess
Marco Budde wrote: > No. A http daemon will never follow this symlinks. They#re 100% useless > when using the http protocol. Balderdash. http://www.apache.org/docs-1.2/mod/core.html#options FollowSymLinks The server will follow symbolic links in this directory. Note: even though th

Re: Re^2: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-28 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* "Marco" == Marco Budde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Am 25.09.99 schrieb roland # spinnaker.de ... RR> It is always a good idea to use a generic format which can RR> automatically converted to all useful formats instead of using one RR> special format. Marco> No, sorry, but this is wrong. W

Re: Censoring :) (was: Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb)

1999-09-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 27, Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Maybe it's time to fork off an independent documentation project? I agree. I'd like to see another organization supported by SPI packaging things like Project Gutemberg books and so on. -- ciao, Marco

ITA: libforms

1999-09-28 Thread Michael Meskes
Since I need a new version of libforms myself I will adopt the package. However, I do not have the time to actively maintain it. I will try to fix as many bugs as possible but then libforms will be up for adoption yet again. Michael -- Michael Meskes | Go SF 49ers! Th.-Heu

Swap setup on Debian

1999-09-28 Thread Staffan Hamala
Hi, I've noticed when installing Debian that the installer always shrinks my swap partition to 128MB, so I have to do a swapoff;mkswap -v1 ..;swapon manually afterwards. Also, the message that it has done this is easily missed. Why doesn't the installer use -v1 so that larger swaps that 128MB can

Re: ITP: pptpd

1999-09-28 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
> Is it okay to go into the primary distribution, or would it be forced > into nonus? If it's okay for ftp.debian.org, I can sponsor it for you. I am not sure about this. pptpd itself should be ok in main, but the modified ppp and kernel packages (these are needed for the data encryption) contain R

Re: /usr/share/doc?

1999-09-28 Thread cavok
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 10:47:38PM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > I get no error with lintian version 1.7 > you are right. i was completely wrong last night. i leaved #PACKAGE# entries despite of the real package name!!! no comment -[ Domenico Andreoli, aka cavok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Lizard / Debian

1999-09-28 Thread wayne forrest
I have read this morinig ,, that lizard from caldera has gone open to the public.( I might be slow to discover this) My question is : Has Debian got any interest in this , and is there anny plans for future releases made to make use of the Lizard. I am pretty sure that this software will give D

Re: Lizard / Debian

1999-09-28 Thread Thomas Schoepf
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 11:59:47AM +0200, wayne forrest wrote: > My question is : Has Debian got any interest in this , and is there > anny plans for future releases made to make use of the Lizard. Personally, I would say Yes it is interesting, BUT: Lizard is released under the QPL, which is inc

Re: Re^2: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-28 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 06:56:00PM +0100, Marco Budde wrote: > RR> I just installed it, but as far as I can see this doesn't integrate > RR> FHS and FSSTND > > Right, because this is not possible. Counter-example: ( dump() { lynx -dump -source -width=1000 $1 |

mtools

1999-09-28 Thread David Weinehall
How comes mtools depend on xlib6g? I don't use X, and thus I consider it very stupid to have both xlib6g & xfree86-common installed, but I have to if I want mtools installed... Rationale? If there's no good explanation, I'll submit a bug-report. And if there's something in xlib6g that mtools real

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate funct

1999-09-28 Thread Chris Rutter
On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > b) if you know what you are doing, compile the packages by hand, fix their > install scripts, and remove the conflicts. You are trying to circumvent the > norm. But I think, to be fair, that what he's proposing *isn't* necessarily `not the norm'

ITP snack-1.6 and tclex-1.2a1, also html_library-0.3?

1999-09-28 Thread David A. van Leeuwen
Hi, For a speech/sound related package `transcriber' I've decided to split off two contrib parts of the code, snack and tclex. Snack is a tcl/tk library for audio i/o (file formats etc.), tclex is a parsel for tcl/tk. In my current plan the tcl/tk files (pkgindex and .so files) don't go into /us

warning: lilo 22dev0-1 can make your system unbootable !

1999-09-28 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
Package: lilo Version: 22dev0-1 it bootet only 2.0.36, but booting 2.2.12 gave a "crc error - system halted" when unpacking. after replaceing lilo with the old 21-5 version, it works again. andreas

Re: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-28 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
Marco Budde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > RR> It is always a good idea to use a generic format which can > RR> automatically converted to all useful formats instead of using > RR> one special format. > No, sorry, but this is wrong. Why should we convert files during the > installation process? T

Procedure Questions

1999-09-28 Thread Ed Petron
Hello, I'm almost ready to upload a new release of PCCTS. It is based on a new upstream version in addition to containing some bug fixes. Also, the upstream source now also includes sorcerer and is seems appropriate to include sorcerer as part of PCCTS. The questions that I have are: 1. Who needs

Re: Censoring :) (was: Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb)

1999-09-28 Thread Bjoern Brill
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > > Why even involve debhelper? At least in the case of the Project Gutenberg > files some of which I have, they are just long ascii files so the rules > file could just stick them into (for example) /usr/share/doc/etexts call > doc-base and be done w

Re: mtools

1999-09-28 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 01:31:23PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > How comes mtools depend on xlib6g? I don't use X, and thus I consider it > very stupid to have both xlib6g & xfree86-common installed, but I have to > if I want mtools installed... > > Rationale? If something supports X it should

Re: Lizard / Debian

1999-09-28 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 11:59:47AM +0200, wayne forrest wrote: > My question is : Has Debian got any interest in this , and is there > anny plans for future releases made to make use of the Lizard. > > I am pretty sure that this software will give Debian a great boost. I am not so sure. First, I

Re: mtools

1999-09-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 07:13:58AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > > How comes mtools depend on xlib6g? I don't use X, and thus I consider it > > very stupid to have both xlib6g & xfree86-common installed, but I have to > > if I want mtools installed... > > If something supports X it should be compi

Re: Censoring :) (was: Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb)

1999-09-28 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 01:12:06AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > Alternate question: why do we even have to package up flat text files? > Why can't we just import them into debian in some regular manner? [I can > see that naming convention is important, but are there any other issues > beyond tha

Re: mtools

1999-09-28 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 28 Sep, Josip Rodin wrote about "Re: mtools" > On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 07:13:58AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: >> > How comes mtools depend on xlib6g? I don't use X, and thus I consider it >> > very stupid to have both xlib6g & xfree86-common installed, but I have to >> > if I want mtools inst

uscan and those debian/watch files?

1999-09-28 Thread Peter S Galbraith
I finally decided to try out uscan and those debian/watch files, but I can't get it to work: $ more /opt/gri/src/deb/2.2.1/gri-2.2.1/debian/watch # Example watch control file for uscan # Rename this file to "watch" and then you can run the "uscan" command # to check for upstream updates and more.

Re: warning: lilo 22dev0-1 can make your system unbootable !

1999-09-28 Thread Brad Hilton
Just to verify, I also experienced the same problem. Did you assign a bug against the package yet? Brad Hilton VPOP Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: > Package: lilo > Version: 22dev0-1 > > it bootet only 2.0.36, but booting 2.2.12 gave a "crc error - system halted" > wh

Re: uscan and those debian/watch files?

1999-09-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 11:22:34AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > ftp.phys.ocean.dal.ca users/kelley/gri/ gri-*.tgz debian uupdate > Am I doing something obviously wrong? IIRC you can use this: ftp.phys.ocean.dal.ca /users/kelley/gri gri-(.*)\.tgz debian uupdate See th

Re: mtools

1999-09-28 Thread Josip Rodin
Subject: mtools: please put X related stuff in another package Package: mtools Severity: normal On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 10:16:20AM -0500, Brian Servis wrote: > >> > How comes mtools depend on xlib6g? I don't use X, and thus I consider it > >> > very stupid to have both xlib6g & xfree86-common inst

Re: Debian 2.1r3

1999-09-28 Thread Martin Schulze
Chris Rutter wrote: > The current `sub-release' (whatever) of Debian 2.1 is r3, right? > I was just wondering, as all references on the web site are to r2, > but I thought I received a message from the security team about > r3 last week somtime. Just wanted to check before I filed a > boring bug r

Re: Shortening release cycles

1999-09-28 Thread Martin Schulze
Steve Greenland wrote: > I liked a lot of these ideas, but: > > On 12-Sep-99, 20:22 (CDT), Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Our current situation results in our stable release being hopelessly > > out-dated and the unstable release not being releaseable. That's > > quite bad for a l

Re: Shortening release cycles

1999-09-28 Thread David Bristel
I believe that this is the reason Joey Hess suggested that we start adding new and tested packages as an addition to our last stable release. Many package maintainers release new versions of their packages for both the stable, as well as the unstable release. XFree is a perfect example of this, a

Re: warning: lilo 22dev0-1 can make your system unbootable !

1999-09-28 Thread Vincent Renardias
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Brad Hilton wrote: > Just to verify, I also experienced the same problem. Did you assign a > bug > against the package yet? short summary: lilo v22 works only with 2.0 kernels; it won't boot a 2.2.x or a 2.3.y. a v21 version has been reuploaded to master this morning. > A

GNOME package versions

1999-09-28 Thread Chris Cheney
I took a few minutes to check what versions of gnome packages were in potato and in /incoming to compare against the current gnome ftp site. The first column shows the version in debian and the filename is the version on the ftp site. *** means it does not appear to be packaged yet. -Chris

Re: mtools

1999-09-28 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 06:08:48PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > Correction: mtools in slink does *not* depend on anything but libc6, so > there is still time to do it, cleanly. > > Maintainer, please do it. The bug tracking system has a weird X-Debian-CC system set up so you don't create several b

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate funct

1999-09-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 27-Sep-99 Clint Adams wrote: >> a) I would not test a new daemon on a working machine, I would use a >> separate > > So? > >> b) if you know what you are doing, compile the packages by hand, fix their >> install scripts, and remove the conflicts. You are trying to circumvent the >> norm. >

Re: mtools

1999-09-28 Thread Josip Rodin
severity 46184 wishlist thanks On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 12:28:08PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > Correction: mtools in slink does *not* depend on anything but libc6, so > > there is still time to do it, cleanly. > > > > Maintainer, please do it. > > The bug tracking system has a weird X-Debian-

Re: Censoring :) (was: Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb)

1999-09-28 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > Exactly. A better designed package manager would support modular package > format handling. then we could simply do (let's call the package manager > hpm for now): > > hpm -i blacksteel.etheme instead dpkg -i etheme-blacksteel.deb > hpm -i realvid

Re: mtools

1999-09-28 Thread Michael Meskes
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 07:13:58AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > > How comes mtools depend on xlib6g? I don't use X, and thus I consider it floppyd is linked against xlib6g- > If something supports X it should be compiled with X. This means exactly > two packages (xlib6g and xfree86-common) are

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate funct

1999-09-28 Thread Clint Adams
> Because as everyone knows the last 10% takes 90% of the work and often ends up > hurting the other 90%. Then it's being done wrong. > The point is Debian needs to work for as many people as possible. We are > doing Yes, that's exactly the point. > apt-get source qpopper [...] > dpkg -i qpop

Re: Swap setup on Debian

1999-09-28 Thread Rick
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Staffan Hamala wrote: > I've noticed when installing Debian that the installer always shrinks > my swap partition to 128MB, so I have to do a swapoff;mkswap -v1 ..;swapon > manually afterwards. Also, the message that it has done this is easily As an aside to this, I use two 6

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate funct

1999-09-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Ok, let's bring this back to implementation. How would you propose we handle this? Currently daemons install, set themselves up, and begin running. a) we can prompt. b) we leave everything off and let the admin turn it on (not an option for obvious reasons) c) first come first serve -- first dae

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate funct

1999-09-28 Thread Clint Adams
> Ok, let's bring this back to implementation. How would you propose we handle > this? Currently daemons install, set themselves up, and begin running. > > a) we can prompt. > b) we leave everything off and let the admin turn it on (not an option for > obvious reasons) > c) first come first serv

Re: warning: lilo 22dev0-1 can make your system unbootable !

1999-09-28 Thread Thomas Schoepf
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 05:01:34PM +, Vincent Renardias wrote: > short summary: > lilo v22 works only with 2.0 kernels; it won't boot a 2.2.x or a 2.3.y. But this will not stay this way, will it? Thomas -- GnuPG: ID=B0FA4F49, PGP2: ID=2EA7BBBD http://www.debian.org/debian/doc/debian-keyring

Re: GNOME package versions

1999-09-28 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > *** means it does not appear to be packaged yet. Well, no, it just means you're not aware of Debian's naming schemes for library packages. > *** 541066 Aug 2 17:32 Gtk---1.0.2.tar.gz look for *gtkmm > *** 313788 Sep 20 17:58 gnome-objc-1.0.40.

Re: GNOME package versions

1999-09-28 Thread Chris Cheney
> Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, no, it just means you're not aware of Debian's naming schemes > for library packages. > > > *** 541066 Aug 2 17:32 Gtk---1.0.2.tar.gz > > look for *gtkmm Ok I see it now. :) > > *** 313788 Sep 20 17:58 gnome-objc-1.0.40.tar.gz > > lib

Re: GNOME package versions

1999-09-28 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > libgnobjc or something to that effect. > I still don't see this package anywhere, I am either overlooking it > or it is not packaged? I'm sure it's packaged. Don't remember the exact name (don't use objective-c much :-). Mike.

RE: data section! [was: Re: Censoring :) (was: Re: anarchism_7.7

1999-09-28 Thread Christian Surchi
On 27-Sep-99 Josip Rodin wrote: > We are already doing that - the proposal on the policy list regarding > a new, data section of the FTP server has passed. > > Hopefully, it will be implemented in practice soon. Yes, but I think that it doesn't solve the problem. I think there are some "data" not

Re^2: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-28 Thread Marco Budde
Am 27.09.99 schrieb GalbraithP # dfo-mpo.gc.ca ... Moin Peter! PSG> I have a recent potato install and dhelp 0.3.14 and _don't_ have PSG> http://localhost/fhs/ support. I don#t have it, too :). Is this directory a Debian standard, Roland? PSG> I could see http://localhost/doc/HTML/, but all new

Re: mtools

1999-09-28 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Brian Servis wrote: > *- On 28 Sep, Josip Rodin wrote about "Re: mtools" > > On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 07:13:58AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > >> > How comes mtools depend on xlib6g? I don't use X, and thus I consider it > >> > very stupid to have both xlib6g & xfree86-common i

Re: Re^2: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-28 Thread Ruud de Rooij
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Budde) writes: > PSG> I could see http://localhost/doc/HTML/, but all new docs visible > PSG> as file:/usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html could not be seen under > PSG> the http://localhost interface to dhelp. Is `fhs' supposed to be > PSG> a new Alias? > > localhost/doc/ sho

Re: Re^2: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-28 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Marco Budde wrote: > PSG> I have a recent potato install and dhelp 0.3.14 and _don't_ have > PSG> http://localhost/fhs/ support. > > I don#t have it, too :). Is this directory a Debian standard, Roland? It isn't. > PSG> I could see http://localhost/doc/HTML/, but all new docs visible > PSG> a

Dependency error installing perl-5.005 on fresh potato.

1999-09-28 Thread Peter S Galbraith
# apt-get install perl-5.005 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: perl-5.005-base perl-base The following NEW packages will be installed: perl-5.005 perl-5.005-base 1 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove an

Re: GNOME package versions

1999-09-28 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Scavenging the mail folder uncovered Chris Cheney's letter: > 0.4.1 1166853 Sep 24 16:56 glade-0.5.3.tar.gz I have a package ready (I use glade heavily and I didn't wanted to wait.) If the author doesn't have the time to update it, I can NMU. Ciao, Federico -- Federico Di Gregorio [http://www

Re: GNOME package versions

1999-09-28 Thread Christian Marillat
Michael Alan Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > libgnobjc or something to that effect. > > I still don't see this package anywhere, I am either overlooking it > > or it is not packaged? > > I'm sure it's packaged. Don't remember the exact name (do

Re: GNOME package versions

1999-09-28 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 12:17:22PM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote: Content-Description: Message Body > > I took a few minutes to check what versions of gnome packages were in potato > and in /incoming to compare against the current gnome ftp site. The first > column shows the version in debian and t

Re: Re^2: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-28 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Ruud de Rooij wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Budde) writes: > > > PSG> I could see http://localhost/doc/HTML/, but all new docs visible > > PSG> as file:/usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html could not be seen under > > PSG> the http://localhost interface to dhelp. Is `fhs' supposed to be > > PSG> a

Re: GNOME package versions

1999-09-28 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > 1.0.40 3196381 Sep 27 15:19 gnome-libs-1.0.42.tar.gz > > and recompile. Will be done in no time. Don't worry. But only if it is > installed in the archive by now (last time I checked it was stuck in > incoming). I just uploaded 1.0.42. I believe 1

Re: Re^2: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-28 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* "Marco" == Marco Budde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marco, please show a little common sense. You are beating a dead horse. Marco> localhost/doc/ should point to /usr/share/doc. Please submit a Marco> bug report for your http daemon. The decision was made by the ctte, it is not yet implemented

pine in other distributions?

1999-09-28 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
I'm a little suprised. I found pine package in redhat-contrib which has a few additional patches. The most interesting is pine4.10-qtcolor-0.1.patch. pine.README.colours: --- To turn on the "pretty colours" patch set the PINECOL environment variable to true. 08/02/99 Simon Liddington <[EMAIL

Re: pine in other distributions?

1999-09-28 Thread Nick Moffitt
Quoting Piotr Roszatycki: > BTW, other pine's version is a part of official RedHat distribution, > but I don't know is it legal? > > Will the pine return back to distribution? > Well, this is the mostly used mailer by my users (and me). From http://linuxmafia.com/debian/tips (and based on

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-28 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 03:21:34AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 01:05:58PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > > then don't install those services. installing a package *IS* an explicit > > OK. > > You're saying that packages reliably say when they provide daemons? no, but it sho

Re: pine in other distributions?

1999-09-28 Thread David Bristel
You may have noticed that the other distributions also have KDE included in them. Because of the license "flaw", Debian does not allow KDE in main. Redhat and others include it because there is little chance of legal action against them for this inclusion. The same applies here, Redhat seems to

Re: mtools

1999-09-28 Thread David Weinehall
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Dale Scheetz wrote: [snip] > Guys, guys, guys... This is a discussion that was had quite a while ago, > and which lead to the creation of xlib6. The whole point was that it was > unnecessary glut to include a console version _and_ an X aware version of > packages like emacs

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate funct

1999-09-28 Thread Bjoern Brill
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Clint Adams wrote: > > Ok, let's bring this back to implementation. How would you propose we > > handle > > this? Currently daemons install, set themselves up, and begin running. > > > > a) we can prompt. > > b) we leave everything off and let the admin turn it on (not an

Re: pine in other distributions?

1999-09-28 Thread David Weinehall
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Nick Moffitt wrote: > Quoting Piotr Roszatycki: > > BTW, other pine's version is a part of official RedHat distribution, > > but I don't know is it legal? > > > > Will the pine return back to distribution? > > Well, this is the mostly used mailer by my users (and me). > >

Re: pine in other distributions?

1999-09-28 Thread Johnie Ingram
"David" == David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Nick Moffitt wrote: David> Redistribution of binary versions is further constrained by David> license agreements for incorporated libraries from third David> parties, e.g. LDAP, GSSAPI. Hm, what happened to this

Re: mtools

1999-09-28 Thread Bjoern Brill
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, David Weinehall wrote: > On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > [snip] > > > Guys, guys, guys... This is a discussion that was had quite a while ago, > > and which lead to the creation of xlib6. The whole point was that it was > > unnecessary glut to include a consol

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate funct

1999-09-28 Thread Seth R Arnold
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 11:13:53AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > Ok, let's bring this back to implementation. How would you propose we handle > this? Currently daemons install, set themselves up, and begin running. > > a) we can prompt. > b) we leave everything off and let the admin turn i

Re: pine in other distributions?

1999-09-28 Thread Thomas Schoepf
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, David Weinehall wrote: > Thus we are free to distribute even a patched Pine, No! Anyone is allowed to _locally_ modify Pine, but there's no statement about distributing such modified versions. And "Redistribution of this release is permitted as follows [...]" of course only c

Re: pine in other distributions?

1999-09-28 Thread David Weinehall
On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Thomas Schoepf wrote: > On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, David Weinehall wrote: > > > Thus we are free to distribute even a patched Pine, > > No! Anyone is allowed to _locally_ modify Pine, but there's no statement > about distributing such modified versions. And "Redistribution of this