Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-18 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 11:23:36AM -0700, Joey Hess écrivait: > This is a bit long, so I'll summarize: > > Debconf is a tool that packages can use to ask questions when they are > installed. It allows various frontends, from dialog, to gtk to web pages > to be used, and it also allows for no

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-18 Thread Joey Hess
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > I did not yet check/test your work but I'm sure that it's great ! > I wonder if you think that debconf is good/mature enough to be used > for potato. Well I've been using it for about a month for just a couple of packages. I will porbably convert my packages to use it once

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-18 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: > 10%? Just a guess. I did a fresh debian install and picked one of the larger > profiles, and only about 21 packages out of that profile did any prompting. > (Results in /usr/share/debconf/packages-that-prompt.) Er, there should be a 'doc' in that path. -- see shy jo

Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-18 Thread Oliver Elphick
In order to help remove unnecessary prompts from the Debian PostgreSQLl installation script, I want it to guess the local date style, to be chosen from the following list: Style DateDatetime --- ISO1999-07-17

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-18 Thread Daniel Burrows
Another question -- I realize the proposed API has been out for a while, but is it possible that the TEXT command could be modified to take a priority? There are probably notifications that the maintainer scripts could display which some people would be interested in but many would not, and being

Re: ITP: Rael's Binary Grabber

1999-09-18 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 17 Sep, Joey Hess wrote about "Re: ITP: Rael's Binary Grabber" > Brian Servis wrote: >> "This is a small program that I wrote for Linux (which could >> theoretically compile on pretty much any other UNIX) that >> automates the extraction of binary attachments from UseNet >> newsgroups."

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-18 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And an updated version is at > http://www.infodrom.north.de/~joey/GnuPG-Mini-HOWTO I've asked bma to submit this as a bug developers-reference for inclusion in that document? Do you agree that it should be adapted to the Developer's Reference so it c

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-18 Thread Joey Hess
Daniel Burrows wrote: > Another question -- I realize the proposed API has been out for a while, but > is it possible that the TEXT command could be modified to take a priority? Actually, debconf uses a variation on the prposed API, that makes text just be a variety of ui element, like a boolean

Re: Too many kernels in unstable

1999-09-18 Thread Bjoern Brill
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Brian Mays wrote: > Perhaps we should keep the last two versions of each branch? In this > case, 2.0.35, 2.0.36, 2.2.10, and 2.2.12 (which is in Incoming). I > don't know. Let's see whether anyone objects to just keeping two > versions around. That seems reasonable. O

Re: Move proftpd to contrib

1999-09-18 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 11:22:59PM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote: > Anyway, which ftpd in unstable do you see as the package to promote as > the ftpd of choice in Debian? Depending on what your needs are, perhaps roxen. -- Raul

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-18 Thread Joe Drew
On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 01:45:55AM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: > In order to help remove unnecessary prompts from the Debian PostgreSQLl > installation script, I want it to guess the local date style, to be chosen > from the following list: > [...] > I propose to include the attached script. If th

dependency problems

1999-09-18 Thread Randolph Chung
A few packages in potato seem to have dependency problems at the moment. This is by no means an exhausive list. This is just a general heads-up. I will file bugs with the packages if similar ones have not yet been filed. emacs20: Depends: liblockfile0 but it is not installable Depends

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-18 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 11:20:13PM -0400, Joe Drew wrote: > It's my personal preference that ISO standard be used unless otherwise > told - but that's me. I tend to agree. It would just be so simple to have the default be ISO. As ISO is very unambiguous, I don't think it would cause problems, ei

Re: Move proftpd to contrib

1999-09-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 04:53:43PM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote: > * "Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hamish> I don't think policy says that contrib is a dumping ground for > Hamish> crap packages. Can you point out which part to me please? > > If you call proftpd crap

Re: Metapackages (was Re: Debian Weekly News - September 14th, 1999)

1999-09-18 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> I also find apt 0.3.11's "apt-cache search" to be quite useful (and fast). I use: perl -n00e '/xml/i && print;' /var/state/apt/lists/*Packages | less (to search for XML related packaged e.g.)

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-18 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
Wow.. this seemed the kind of message that I usually skip... "Why don't we go for a picnic?" "Let's go to .*World" ... as leaving so far automatically makes me like an outcast.. =) But you mean getting the money to actually get all Debian together... wow.. that would be interesting...! S

warning: update-menus may thrash system

1999-09-18 Thread Joey Hess
With Joost's approval, I NMU'd menu the other day. I seem to have broke it in the process. If you do a large upgrade, you will have 20 or more update-menus processes all waking up at the same time and competing to run. I am looking into fixing this as soon as I can, but you might want to put menu o

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-18 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
>Style DateDatetime >--- >ISO1999-07-17 1999-07-17 07:09:18+01 >SQL17/07/1999 17/07/1999 07:09:19.00 BST >POSTGRES 17-07-1999 Sat 17 Jul 07:09:19 1999 BST >GERMAN 17.07.

Re: cannot lftp to master

1999-09-18 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> Does anyone know what's going on here: > > lftp :~> debian > Password: > cd ok, cwd=/debian2/private/project/Incoming > lftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/debian2/private/project/Incoming> ls -l rsh* > -rw-r--r-- 1 herbert Debian 26838 Sep 5 09:47 > rsh-client_0.10-1_i386.deb > -rw-r--r-- 1 her

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-18 Thread Oliver Elphick
Carey Evans wrote: >"Oliver Elphick" writes: > >> If you have a recent potato system, with timezone files in >> /usr/share/zoneinfo, could you please run the script and let me know if >> it gives WRONG results for you. If it does, please tell me your timezone >> and offset (date '+%Z

Re: warning: update-menus may thrash system

1999-09-18 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: > With Joost's approval, I NMU'd menu the other day. I seem to have broke it > in the process. If you do a large upgrade, you will have 20 or more > update-menus processes all waking up at the same time and competing to run. > I am looking into fixing this as soon as I can, but you

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-18 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> Here's a revised version of the script taking into account all comments > so far. I guess Argentina isn't the only country that uses the SQL format. There must be some others too. It would be great to find a source for this information

Re: Move proftpd to contrib

1999-09-18 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 11:22:59PM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote: > Anyway, which ftpd in unstable do you see as the package to promote as > the ftpd of choice in Debian? > > Just to see what our alternatives are. An alternative is wu-ftpd. It would be rather foolish to support wu-ftpd 100%, h

Re: Move proftpd to contrib

1999-09-18 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 09:57:44AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > An alternative is wu-ftpd. It would be rather foolish to support wu-ftpd > 100%, however, it has almost the same status as sendmail - it is a very > well tested and greatly improved software, for years now. You're right, it has the

name2() solved

1999-09-18 Thread Paul Harris
don't go away, i have a "standardising" question for the gurus: vrweb used a function called name2() that i eventually found in the libg++2.8.2-dev package in /usr/include/g++-2/generic.h #define name2(a,b) gEnErIc2(a,b) #define gEnErIc2(a,b) a ## b now dselect tells me: libg++2.8.2-dev - The G

What has happened to gnome-apt?

1999-09-18 Thread Oliver Elphick
gnome-apt is no longer installable, because it depends on libapt-pkg2.5, which does not exist. What's going on? -- Vote against SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/ Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED

boot-floppies status from an insider (was Re: Deficiencies in Debian)

1999-09-18 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am on debian-boot for a long time. The truth is that a lot of people are > doing small things but nobody leads. No management. No decisions. I would agree with this. Enrique would probably appreciate someone taking over management and coordina

Bug#45417: general: Lines referring to package remain in /etc/suid.conf after purging

1999-09-18 Thread Wouter Hanegraaff
Package: general Version: N/A example: after purging emacs19, the following occurs: 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 13:11 # cat /etc/suid.conf | grep emacs emacs /usr/lib/emacs/19.34/i386-debian-linux/movemail root mail 2755 4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 13:11 # dpkg --purge emacs19 dpkg - warning: ignoring requ

Re: What has happened to gnome-apt?

1999-09-18 Thread Mitch Blevins
Oliver Elphick wrote: > gnome-apt is no longer installable, because it depends on libapt-pkg2.5, > which does not exist. libapt-pkg2.5 was provided by apt 0.3.11 However, the latest version of apt (0.3.12) provides libapt-pkg2.6 So, if you want to keep gnome-apt, you should put a hold on apt (don

Signature on packages?

1999-09-18 Thread Gaddoni Marco
Hello ! I am right now upgrading my debian potato from the mirror ftp.it.debian.org and at the same time i am reading about all that troian viruses to be "used" with win95. Now, i am trusting the security of my system (nothing so important, right now, but ...) in the hand of the system admin

Re: name2() solved

1999-09-18 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Paul Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > header files, but what is the "correct" way to code this functionality? if > its not in the stdc++ headers, how are people supposed to solve similar > problems that name2() solved? (even tho its pretty damn simple code). Speaking without having looked at a

Processed: this is emacs19 bug

1999-09-18 Thread Darren Benham
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 45417 emacs19 Bug#45417: general: Lines referring to package remain in /etc/suid.conf after purging Bug reassigned from package `general' to `emacs19'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Darren Benh

Re: New QMail discussion list.

1999-09-18 Thread Edward Betts
Jon Marler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have started a new qmail discussion list. The purpose of the list is to > discuss using QMail as the primary MTA with Debian. The primary MTA? does that mean that more than one MTA can be installed on Debian at once? I thought they all conflicted with eac

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Adam Di Carlo wrote: > Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > And an updated version is at > > http://www.infodrom.north.de/~joey/GnuPG-Mini-HOWTO > > I've asked bma to submit this as a bug developers-reference for > inclusion in that document? Do you agree that it should be adapted t

Re: warning: update-menus may thrash system

1999-09-18 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 10:05:31PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > With Joost's approval, I NMU'd menu the other day. I seem to have broke it > in the process. If you do a large upgrade, you will have 20 or more > update-menus processes all waking up at the same time and competing to run. > I am looking

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-18 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 02:11:20PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Have you looked at debconf at all? Because.. > > Scott Barker wrote: Of course not; people are, sadly, always trying to redesign things they don't even understand. I, for one, am delighted to see this tool come to light after years of

Recent potato libc5 is crashing

1999-09-18 Thread Shane Wegner
Hi, It seems that Friday's potato upgrade broke libc5. I cannot seem to run any binaries compiled against libc5 anymore. Unfortunately programs like l3dec and such cannot be recompiled. Weird thing is libc5 didn't change. Has anyone else seen this problem on their systems and any ideas where i

Re: Recent potato libc5 is crashing

1999-09-18 Thread Junio Hamano
> "SW" == Shane Wegner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SW> It seems that Friday's potato upgrade broke libc5. I cannot seem to run any SW> binaries compiled against libc5 anymore. Unfortunately programs like l3dec SW> and such cannot be recompiled. Weird thing is libc5 didn't change. Has SW> a

Re: Recent potato libc5 is crashing

1999-09-18 Thread Junio Hamano
> "JNH" == Junio Hamano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JNH> The changes between the upgrade I did Friday did not, as far as JNH> I can tell, involve libc5 nor xlib6. From the diff between JNH> /var/lib/dpkg/status* file, I did not see anything suspicious, JNH> maybe other than ldso which was upg

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-18 Thread Scott Barker
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 02:11:20PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Have you looked at debconf at all? Because.. > > Scott Barker wrote: > > 1) Separate interactive and non-interactive installation scripts. I suggest > >that the current debian install scripts should contain *only* > >non-interati

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-18 Thread Scott Barker
On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 02:13:26PM -0400, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 02:11:20PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > > Have you looked at debconf at all? Because.. > > > > Scott Barker wrote: > > Of course not; people are, sadly, always trying to redesign things they > don't even unde

Re: switching from PGP to GNUPG -- HOWTO?

1999-09-18 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 02:40:52PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Joseph Carter wrote: > > Install gpg-rsaref. > > Please only do that if you live in the US or Canada. The rest of us need > gpg-rsa. Unfortunately gpg-rsa is broken. It installs a sh wrapper (yes, sh) that breaks gpg

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-18 Thread Joey Hess
Scott Barker wrote: > My reading of it was that you use the debconf functions from within the > post-install script. I'm talking about a completely new functionality for the > packaging system, where a config script is defined, and is not the > post-install script. I will check again, in case I mis

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-18 Thread Joey Hess
Scott Barker wrote: > For your information, I understand just fine. As near as I can tell, debconf > needs to be run in the post-install scripts, because there is not yet any > functionality within the packaging system to define a separate config script. > That extra functionality is what I'm looki

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Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-18 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 01:45:55AM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: > If you have a recent potato system, with timezone files in > /usr/share/zoneinfo, could you please run the script and let me know if > it gives WRONG results for you. If it does, please tell me your timezone > and offset (date '+%Z

Re: Too many kernels in unstable

1999-09-18 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 07:25:15PM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: > > Can't we keep the number down to something more manageable, say 4 at > > most? > > We now have: > > kernel-{doc,headers,image,source}-2.0.35 > kernel-{doc,headers,image,source}-2.0.36 > kernel-{doc,headers,image,source}-2.2.1 > ker

Re: Too many kernels in unstable

1999-09-18 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> I'm not objectionable to a 2.3.x, but I really don't think it's a good > idea. Hey...my Debian Ultra SPARC system *loves* the 2.3.x kernel a heck of a lot better than the 2.2.x strain. I think that for unstable a version (or 2 depending of needs) of each kernel tree would be nice...but for s

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-18 Thread Oliver Elphick
Robert Vollmert wrote: >With /bin/sh -> /bin/ash, I get the following error: > >guess.datestyle: 25: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")") > >It works fine with bash. It seems the opening brace on > >case "$x" in ( SystemV | posix | right ) > ^ >is

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-18 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 06:36:47PM +0200, Robert Vollmert wrote: > With /bin/sh -> /bin/ash, I get the following error: > > guess.datestyle: 25: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")") > > It works fine with bash. It seems the opening brace on > > case "$x" in ( SystemV | posix |

XEmacs 21

1999-09-18 Thread James LewisMoss
I have xemacs 21 packages aptable at "deb http://va.debian.org/~dres xemacs21/". I would appreciate some people trying them out and seeing what problems you find (please report directly to me rather than bug tracking system). Here's known problems: 1) not all elisp packages that compile for xemac

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-18 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 12:50:57PM -0600, Scott Barker wrote: > Not even a dozen messages into this thread, and already the usual user-bashing > begins. I wasn't bashing a user, I was bashing people who levelled criticisms of debconf before it's even been out 24 hours, and more to the point, befor

Re: Move proftpd to contrib

1999-09-18 Thread Robert Stone
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 07:52:24AM -0700, David Bristel wrote: > Or a new section for packages removed from main due to bugs, but possibly > still desired by some people? It's safer to have a clear message that > "Debian considers these packages to contain too many bugs for inclusion in > the main

Re: boot-floppies status from an insider (was Re: Deficiencies in Debian)

1999-09-18 Thread Joey Hess
Adam Di Carlo wrote: > * eliminate all dselect acquisition methods aside from apt and > possibly mountable (for NFS, which apt doesn't handle -- socks > also not handled by apt but I don't know if we care) Apt can handle nfs just fine. If you want to mount/unmount the nfs server when ap

A few changes

1999-09-18 Thread Darren Benham
I thought some of you might be interested in a few changes that have been made to the BTS software... In the new software, the X-Debian-CC was changed to X-Debbugs-CC (more general) and it appears to be working. Some of the perl scripts have been made -w clean. A column was added to http://www.d

Re: ProFTPd being lame

1999-09-18 Thread Robert Stone
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 11:46:52AM +0100, Chris Rutter wrote: > Most people I know prefer using the OpenBSD-derived server, because > it seems to be more stable and less buggy than the rest -- why is > it being deprecated by Debian (or Herbert, I don't know) in this > way? > The OpenBSD f

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-18 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 03:58:02AM -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: > > Here's a revised version of the script taking into account all comments > > so far. > I guess Argentina isn't the only country that uses the SQL format. There > must be some others too. It would be great to find a source for t

Re: A few changes

1999-09-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 04:09:17PM -0700, Darren Benham wrote: > In the new software, the X-Debian-CC was changed to X-Debbugs-CC (more > general) and it appears to be working. Oh yeah, indeed :) > Some of the perl scripts have been made -w clean. Ueber-Cool. > Bugs are no longer deleted!!! W

Re: Bug#45307: [PROPOSAL] virtual package ident-server

1999-09-18 Thread Herbert Xu
Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The proliferation of ident daemons (midentd, oidentd, pidentd) in >> Debian necessitates the introduction of a virtual package that these >> packages can provide and conflict with (since you can only >> [reasonably] run one ident daemon at once). While "id

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-18 Thread Herbert Xu
Oliver Elphick wrote: > Robert Vollmert wrote: > >With /bin/sh -> /bin/ash, I get the following error: > > > >guess.datestyle: 25: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")") > > > >It works fine with bash. It seems the opening brace on > > > >case "$x" in ( SystemV | posi

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-18 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> > > Here's a revised version of the script taking into account all comments > > > so far. > > I guess Argentina isn't the only country that uses the SQL format. There > > must be some others too. It would be great to find a source for this > > information > > Hmm... the question is why we d