Re: better /etc/init.d/network

Craig Brozefsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: > > > On May 19, Craig Brozefsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >This would make is easier for programs like ipmasq or leafnode or > > >whatever to put hooks to start themselves up or shut themselves do

Re: Hints about future improvements

Mitch Blevins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think the ideal solution would be to have a caching proxy based on > rsync to communicate with the upstream mirror, and http (or a new > apt method) to communicate with apt. I was actually thinking the other day about why couldn't apt support rsync://

VA and debian boxes (was Re: evan leibovitch and the LPI certification tests)

On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 08:35:30PM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote: > As for preinstallation, let me make two points: > a) Debian really has a long way to go for someone to do mass installs > of it, unattended. it certainly could be easier, but it's not that hard. i build many debian boxes...it just ta

Re: Intent to maintainer change: canna

ISHIKAWA Mutsumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Brian Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >>> Usually, you don't need to announce a maintainer change to the >>> lists if it's already been agreed to by both the old and new >>> maintainers, just mark something like '* New maintainer' in the >>> change

Re: Haskell in Debian

Giuliano P Procida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > b) ghc runs out of heap compiling its parser > > The file ParseIface.hs (in ghc/compiler) needs more than 64M but no more > than 128M of heap to compile. With 64M of RAM and not too much else > (X and ntpd) running you are looking at 1500+ garba

Re: Source for install program

Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 07:40:57AM -0700, Tyger Sunshine-Hill wrote: > > I'm trying to find the source code to the debian install program (Boot 1 > > and > > 2) but can't locate it on the FTP. Can anyone point me to it? > > See the package bo

Re: Listing of Debian hosted cutting-edge software

"Brimhall, GeoffreyX L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Over the last few days quite a few cutting-edge development projects have > been posted. In particular, > > Qt2.0 beta at http://master.debian.org/~heiko/qt2/, > Configurator Panel at http://linuxlabs.lci.ufrj.br/~lages/cpanel > > Does debian

Re: stupid idea - metapackages

Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > what about creating empty packages only to satisfy dependancies and > > be able to install loosy related set of packages. Metapackage > > seems to be the right name for such creature ;) > People already thought of that :) it was discussed on -gtk-gnome

Re: VA Research and linux.com

On Tue, 18 May 1999, Steve Lamb wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, 19 May 1999 00:27:16 -0500, David Welton wrote: > > >Wow... Debian gets *lots* of publicity on linux.com. Very cool! > > Not that it does any good. "Wow, this site runs on Debian." *click

Re: evan leibovitch and the LPI certification tests

On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 06:10:14PM -0500, David Welton wrote: > Personally, I'm happy to know that I'm involved in making a kick ass > OS, and as long as no one messes with my ability to do that, I'm fine. hear! hear! couldn't agree more. RH isn't "competition" to debian except in the most posi

LDP news (was Re: Hardware working with Linux)

Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have noticed that several HOWTO's are way out-dated. BTW, Lars Wirzenius, a cofounder of the LDP, just resigned as leader. I'm not sure who will step up to the job. However, whoever takes the job, I hope that the next leader of the LDP follows the p

Re: Listing of Debian hosted cutting-edge software

On 19 May 1999, Adam Di Carlo wrote: > If you can find someone to maintain the page, someone preferably who > is a debian developer, I betcha you could get the Debian webmasters > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to give that person CVS access. > > Personally I think it's too transient to document, and that

Re: (LONG) Correct non-US solution

On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 07:51:31PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > Also, I am not sure it is useful to distinguish between > "use-restricted" and "patent-restricted", given that the consequences > would be the same. the reason i suggested having a "patent-restriced" category is that patents don'

Re: VA and debian boxes (was Re: evan leibovitch and the LPI certification tests)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 20 May 1999 10:11:42 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: >selection of two or three standard configurations - "web server", "file >and print server", and "internet gateway") and use 'dd' or 'tar' to >duplicate the drive. finally, follow that up with a

Re: stupid idea - metapackages

>> "ADC" == Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ADC> I suggest we all follow naming conventions, i.e., 'metapkg-*', so ADC> that it's easy to pick these babies out. I will do the packages for the GNOME update tomorrow, as I want to have it ready at monday at the latest. I was thinking ab

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 04:12:51PM -0700, Brent Fulgham wrote: > Ideally, a library would (in addition to it's C++ functionality) have > a C interface that doesn't really deal with the issue of objects. > Say, something that would accept some standard C types and structs, > and return same. in oth

Re: request to kill nag messages

Brian> I don't NEED a reminder about my bugs. There should be an option to Brian> TURN THE BLOODY THING OFF. Subscribe with your @debian.org address so that you procmail it out on master. -- According to the latest figures, 43% of all statistics are totally worthless.

Re: request to kill nag messages

At 21:28 -0400 1999-05-19, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: Brian> I don't NEED a reminder about my bugs. There should be an option to Brian> TURN THE BLOODY THING OFF. Subscribe with your @debian.org address so that you procmail it out on master. Wtf do you mean subscribe? None of us signed up for the f

Master/murphy going down, while they are moved to a new colo.

Novare is switching to a new isp and new colocation facility. The time has come to move master and murphy to the new site. In about 20 minutes, mark and I will be taking the machines down, then transporting them to the new facility. We expect them to be down for 40 minutes, so in an hour, we hop

Re: Intent to maintainer change: canna

*Adam Di Carlo wrote: > ISHIKAWA Mutsumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm not sure I agree with Brian. The old maintain put out a "looking > for new maintainer" request on this list. Therefore, it is appropriate > that the agreed upon new maintainer would announce that here to. This > is to prev

Re: stupid idea - metapackages

On Wed, 19 May 1999, Oleg Krivosheev wrote: > > Hi, all > > looking into GNOME i got some (maybe stupid) idea: > > what about creating empty packages only to satisfy dependancies and > be able to install loosy related set of packages. Metapackage > seems to be the right name for such creature ;

Re: stupid idea - metapackages

I really like the how-to-install-gnome page. Other packages that could use similar pages are X, emacs, and communicator. I and people I have talked to can get confused trying to decide which packages to download and install. -- John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson,AZ

Re: request to kill nag messages

Brian> I don't NEED a reminder about my bugs. There should be an option to Brian> TURN THE BLOODY THING OFF. Dirk> Subscribe with your @debian.org address so that you procmail it out Dirk> on master. Joel> Wtf do you mean subscribe? None of us signed up for the fucking Joel> thing!

Re: request to kill nag messages

At 22:26 -0400 1999-05-19, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: Brian> I don't NEED a reminder about my bugs. There should be an option to Brian> TURN THE BLOODY THING OFF. Dirk> Subscribe with your @debian.org address so that you procmail it out Dirk> on master. Joel> Wtf do you mean subscribe? None of u

Re: stupid idea - metapackages

>> "JL" == John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JL> I really like the how-to-install-gnome page. Thanks. JL> Other packages that could use similar pages are X, emacs, and JL> communicator. There are such packages for communicator and navigator. See http://master.debian.org/~doogie/netscap

Re: time to rewrite dpkg

Hi Arron, On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 04:16:15PM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote: > I'm closing this discussion for now. What you started you can't really stop now. You started a C vs. C++ debate, and it will be a few more posts away until everyone calms down. > I know what I have in mind, and

Re: time to rewrite dpkg

Hi Aaron, I would be interested in seeing your design. It may clear up some concerns as to why you are picking your language (which seems to have generated quite a discussion). More importantly, you may receive suggestions as to ways to improve the design. If you are lucky, you may even have a

ping@db.debian.org

Hi all, I'd like to thank eveyone who has participated in testing this service, several bugs have been found and most are squashed. There is however one random failure that a few people encountered, the replay cache sometimes says that the message date is incorrect. For some reason this is total

fetchmail question

Let's say I use different POP3 accounts on different machines. Is it correct that fetchmail is only able to process them sequentially? At least that's the impression I get from reading the NOTES file under /usr/doc. Seeing that fetchmail at least sometimes use much less than the available bandwidth

Real releases G2 player alpha

For those of you who haven't seen yet, the Linux Real player G2 alpha is out, and it works just fine with the latest potato bits. You can get it at http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html - I grabbed the Red Had 5.2/6.0 version and installed with alien (the generic linux package comes as a

Debian liaison for LPI certification program

Hi, The Linux Professional Institute, http://www.lpi.org, is a non-profit community organization developing a Linux certification program. I believe it will become the leading Linux certification program because of the open and cooperative nature of its development. I have been asked if I, or som

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:22:28AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > > A better question is how a revised C++-ish library might interoperate with > > an object-oriented language designed to make use of polymorphism, > > abstraction, etc. Say, how Python might work as a front end, or how you > > migh

Re: request to kill nag messages

On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 10:26:11PM -0400, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > You are subscribed to a mailing list debian-devel, aren't you? Nag also sends emails regarding old bugs on your packages. I never subscribed to that. :p -- Brian Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian Linux Developer - h

Re: Debian coding style?

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >--IMjqdzrDRly81ofr >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >You know, we like you. You're crazy. Crazy enough for Debian. (We're >all totally mad here you realize) You should apply as a developer! => >Benefit

an idea - upload queue on va

For whatever reason, I can't connect to master right now, so I had to use an upload queue to upload a package. But all the upload queue's are on different contients to me. I ended up bouncing my files off erlangen in germany. Sorta silly. It'd be nice if va.debian.org had an upload queue on it, th

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:15:00AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > The standards don't change that fast, but I'm talking about the > _implementation_. The g++ compiler still has problems and unimplemented > standard C++ elements - again, rtti and exceptions come to mind, not to > mention templates.

Re: an idea - upload queue on va

On Wed, 19 May 1999, Joey Hess wrote: > It'd be nice if va.debian.org had an upload queue on it, then if master's > down or unreachable, or if the routing to va just happens to be better for > someone in the US, they can upload to there. When the upload queue software is packaged I'll evaluate i

Re: Real releases G2 player alpha

Larry 'Daffy' Daffner wrote: > For those of you who haven't seen yet, the Linux Real player G2 alpha > is out, and it works just fine with the latest potato bits. You can > get it at http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html - I grabbed > the Red Had 5.2/6.0 version and installed with alien (t

Re: an idea - upload queue on va

Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Wed, 19 May 1999, Joey Hess wrote: > > > It'd be nice if va.debian.org had an upload queue on it, then if master's > > down or unreachable, or if the routing to va just happens to be better for > > someone in the US, they can upload to there. > > When the upload que

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 03:01:12PM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:50:19AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > That seems... the wrong way around. > see comments below ;P Perhaps I should expand on that. The `Unix way' (yes, you can stop reading this paragraph here, i

Re: mass-installing Debian

Illo de' Illis wrote: > > On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 09:12:29AM -0700, Dean Carpenter wrote: > > Now during installation, the exim preinst and postinst scripts would > > source the install-response file, creating the variables with the > > responses they need. At this point, it's just as if they've

Re: Bug#37602: apt: Segfault at the end of apt-get

Hi, On Wed, 19 May 1999, Joey Hess wrote: > Joost Kooij wrote: > > Technically, I wholeheartedly agree with you in the above matter. The > > problem _at_hand_ is that a lot of people are seeing a "segmentation > > fault" message. The /primary/ causes are the buggy scripts in > > /etc/menu-metho

Re: stupid idea - metapackages

On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 08:32:29PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: > Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > what about creating empty packages only to satisfy dependancies and > > > be able to install loosy related set of packages. Metapackage > > > seems to be the right name for such creatur

gdm/xdm/login.app weirdnesses

I'm running potato and till recently was running XDM with login.app to give the login screen a nice clean look. Then GDM (Gnome Display Manager) showed up in unstable so i grabbed it. Next time i rebooted, it gave me the gnome login screen and my mouse works, but for some odd reason it disables m

exim mailer/dhis.org/debian mailing list question

Howdy all. I'm running potato with exim mailer and i am using the dhis.org dynamic dns service (there happens to be a nice dhis.org client in unstable, though it would be easy enough to compile it or get binaries...); it is set up so that mail sent to me while i'm offline is held by dhis.org and t

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 05:24:08AM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote: [...] > Notably, I'm going to be writing it in C++. This will add about 270k > to the boot disks' root image, but as the floppy install methods are for the > most part phasing out under the shadow of easier methods, I'm n

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg IN IDL! :)

Aaron Van Couwenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have grown increasingly aware of FUD of this type about C++ and OO > languages. OO is designed to *increase* interoperability, flexibility, and > extensibility -- definately not the other way around. OO isn't limited to C++, and C++ isn't lim

Re: request to kill nag messages

[DONT SEND ME A CC!] Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 19 May 1999, Christian Kurz wrote: > > [You don't need to send me an extra Cc as I read the lists on which I > > write. Thanks!] > > > > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 19 May 1999, Christian Kurz wrote:

Re: request to kill nag messages

Christian Meder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 09:24:19PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote: > > Well what is the problem with this? I don't see any offence in getting a > > message that says that I (the maintainer) has still open bug over a > > certain age. I think this is a good r

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg (please do)

Aaron Van Couwenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, esteemed members of the Debian enthusiast community! Hi >... > So, whether or not I recieve the approval of this community, I'm > going to be working on a complete rewrite of dpkg. No, it won't even > *resemble* the old dpkg; I gu

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg IN IDL! :)

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 02:50:38AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > > I think an interesting approach would be to use CORBA. Make dpkg into > a networkable server for polymorphic package objects! G'wan, I dare > ya! :-) I don't see why not. Software is becomming more and more complex, people are

Re: Haskell in Debian

Hi. On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 02:00:55AM +0200, Rui Zhu wrote: > Just FYI, accidently I found at the GHC site that this file can cause > trouble, there is memory leak. (see > ) I know, SPJ got fed up with all the reports so he

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg IN IDL! :)

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:25:17PM +1000, Daniel James Patterson wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 02:50:38AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > There are a few OO tools (I'm thinking Rational Rose > in particular) that can do code generation from UML work, which could mean > that we could decide on a des

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:44:02AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > * Aaron Van Couwenberghe said: > > > > Polymorphism is such an obvious pillar of structured programming that I > > can't understand how anybody could live without it. > Is it? AFAICS none of the traditional languages like Pascal o

Re: request to kill nag messages

Brian> Nag also sends emails regarding old bugs on your packages. I never Brian> subscribed to that. :p All I'm saying: Everybody is free to procmail away whatever they don't like. -- According to the latest figures, 43% of all statistics are totally worthless.

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:47:59AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > * Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho said: > > On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 03:01:12PM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote: > > > Polymorphism is such an obvious pillar of structured programming that I > > > can't understand how anybody could live w

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:44:02AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > > 1. you create a C library with all the dpkg functionality inside > 2. you compile and link it as a shared library > 3. you write several simple drivers to interface the user to that library > 4. the .so is loaded only ONCE - tha

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg IN IDL! :)

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:44:39PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Speaking of baser instincts, Rationale Rose isn't free software, is it? > > Are there any nice (or even not-nice) OO design tools that are? > No unfortunatley it isnt. There is a solaris version, which is a bad port of the win32 v

Re: Bug#37602: apt: Segfault at the end of apt-get

Je 1999/05/20(4)/10:05, Joost Kooij montris sian geniecon skribante: > Hi, > > On Wed, 19 May 1999, Joey Hess wrote: > > > Joost Kooij wrote: > > > Technically, I wholeheartedly agree with you in the above matter. The > > > problem _at_hand_ is that a lot of people are seeing a "segmentation > >

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg IN IDL! :)

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:25:17PM +1000, Daniel James Patterson wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 02:50:38AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > > > > I think an interesting approach would be to use CORBA. Make dpkg into > > a networkable server for polymorphic package objects! G'wan, I dare > > ya! :

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg IN IDL! :)

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 09:14:26PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > How about "it's complete overkill"? I don't think so. Yes you can write maintainable code with plain C, but with the number of developers moving in and out of Debian, I think that a decent OO approach for core software could make i

Re: gdm/xdm/login.app weirdnesses

>> "s" == solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: s> Manager) showed up in unstable so i grabbed it. Next time i s> rebooted, it gave me the gnome login screen and my mouse works, but s> for some odd reason it disables my keyboard. I already filed a bugreport about this. The maintainer thinks this

Re: better /etc/init.d/network

On May 20, Craig Brozefsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> With this scheme scripts can't be easily disabled. >mv /etc/network/eth0.postup.leafnode /etc/network/off.eth0.postup.leafnode dpkg would not be happy. -- ciao, Marco

Re: Intent to maintainer change: canna

On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 08:19:47PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: > I'm not sure I agree with Brian. The old maintain put out a "looking > for new maintainer" request on this list. Therefore, it is appropriate > that the agreed upon new maintainer would announce that here to. This > is to prevent ot

Re: Intent to maintainer change: canna

On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 11:48:34PM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote: > On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 08:19:47PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: > > I'm not sure I agree with Brian. The old maintain put out a "looking > > for new maintainer" request on this list. Therefore, it is appropriate > > that the agreed up

ITP: since

Hi I've packaged since, a GPL'd tail(1)-like utility that saves state information between invocations. For more info, check out ftp://jade.cs.uct.ac.za/pub/since-0.1.tar.gz If there are no objections, I'll upload it to master in a few days. -mj -- Michael-John Turner | http://www.edr

Intent to package: poster

In intend to package poster, a program to scale postscript pages to a given size. The output can be tiled on multiple sheets. License is GPL, thanks to JHM. The only URL I know is ftp://ftp.ics.ele.tue.nl/pub/users/jos/poster/ . -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.ik

[PRE-ANNOUNCE] DPKGv2 Project

This was not supposed to go out until Wichert got back and some details were settled, but with all the talk about redoing dpkg, I felt it necessary so that there weren't any duplication projects started and things didn't get complicated. There is a project underway to build a new package manager.

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:53:23PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > But the problem is that templates, nor exceptions or rtti (which are all > > elements of MODERN C++ programming) don't work well enough on the GNU > > platform... > > Is that true, I have heard this agrument often, but is it true, an

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 04:00:43PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:53:23PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > But the problem is that templates, nor exceptions or rtti (which are all > > > elements of MODERN C++ programming) don't work well enough on the GNU > > > pla

Re: gdm/xdm/login.app weirdnesses

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:31:51PM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote: > > >> "s" == solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > s> Manager) showed up in unstable so i grabbed it. Next time i > s> rebooted, it gave me the gnome login screen and my mouse works, but > s> for some odd reason it disables

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg IN IDL! :)

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:54:45PM +1000, Daniel James Patterson wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:44:39PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Speaking of baser instincts, Rationale Rose isn't free software, is it? > > > > Are there any nice (or even not-nice) OO design tools that are? > > > > No

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:14:31AM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:45:45PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:44:02AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > > > * Aaron Van Couwenberghe said: > > > > > > > > > > Polymorphism is such an obvious pill

Re: [PRE-ANNOUNCE] DPKGv2 Project

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:47:22AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: [snip] > Do not worry, everyone will have a chance to view the code in an anonymous > CVS server (which is already setup). There will be ample documentation > and views on the current spec will be heard. Please consider this a semi > form

Re: evan leibovitch and the LPI certification tests

RH isn't "competition" to debian except in the most positive sense of friendly rivalry. We have different aims, different goals. Their goal is to produce and market a linux distribution which keeps their company financially viable. Our goal is to produce a distribution which does what we want w

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

Enrique Zanardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 05:24:08AM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote: > [...] > > Notably, I'm going to be writing it in C++. This will add > > about 270k to the boot disks' root image, but as the floppy > > install methods are for the most part

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 03:34:27PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > Something like > Objective Caml version 2.02 > # let id x = x ;; > val id : 'a -> 'a = > --- > Not sure, but i think we are not talking with the same definition of > the same word ? C++ isn't a

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg IN IDL! :)

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 09:27:10PM +1000, Daniel James Patterson wrote: > Besides, as I said, at this stage, do the analysis, not the coding. It can > always be scrapped if it looks like it would be pointless, but I'd like to > see some non-emotive reasons not to even _consider_ it. here's a non-

Re: Real releases G2 player alpha

On Wed, 19 May, 1999, Joey Hess wrote: > Larry 'Daffy' Daffner wrote: > The debian installer is uploaded, and uses the rpm. The only advantage over > using alien is you get: > > a) a clean upgrade path from the older package, and an easy upgrade to >the next version when it comes out. > b) reg

Re: request to kill nag messages

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 11:48:25AM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote: > Christian Meder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Example: I've got an open old bug report that flying > > (a X11 pool game) doesn't support 16/24 bit displays. The upstream > > This would speak for making the mechanismen configurable.

Intent to package netspades

Hi all, NetSpades is a client/server based system designed to be played over a network of some kind. It allows 4 people to play Spades, and chat as well from anywhere in the world. It includes a console client using slang. As well as a gtk based client for X. And if you've got a friend which d

Re: Hints about future improvements

Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mitch Blevins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I think the ideal solution would be to have a caching proxy based on > > rsync to communicate with the upstream mirror, and http (or a new > > apt method) to communicate with apt. > > I was actually think

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

* Sven LUTHER said: > > > Polymorphism is such an obvious pillar of structured programming that I > > > can't understand how anybody could live without it. > > Is it? AFAICS none of the traditional languages like Pascal or C has > > polimorphism at its base... > > What you call polymorphism is ju

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

* Sven LUTHER said: > > > Agreed. Too bad C++ does not support parametric polymorphism too well. > > > Templates come close, so the hope is not lost. > > But the problem is that templates, nor exceptions or rtti (which are all > > elements of MODERN C++ programming) don't work well enough on the

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

* Sven LUTHER said: > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:44:02AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > > > > 1. you create a C library with all the dpkg functionality inside > > 2. you compile and link it as a shared library > > 3. you write several simple drivers to interface the user to that library > > 4. t

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

* Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho said: > > Is that true, I have heard this agrument often, but is it true, and is it > > still > > so today ? Is there effort made to fix this ? how far are they ? > > I haven't used RTTI, but in my experience templates work without problems > and exceptions work most of

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

* Sven LUTHER said: > > > Is that true, I have heard this agrument often, but is it true, and is it > > > still > > > so today ? Is there effort made to fix this ? how far are they ? > > > > I haven't used RTTI, but in my experience templates work without problems > > I also heard that template

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

* Hamish Moffatt said: > > mention templates. And I remember how did the C++ interface, in binary > > This was certainly true in g++ 2.7.x, but egcs seems much better. Much better, yes, but it's still not finished. > (Exceptions and templates anyway; I don't know what rtti is.) RTTI stands for R

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

* Aaron Van Couwenberghe said: > > The answer is - you can't... All the languages you mentioned have clean C > > interacing methods, but no C++ ones. The reason is that C++ is not > > interoperable. > > No, no, no! one word for everyone. CORBA! I'm sorry to say that, but dream on... marek pgpE

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Re: time to rewrite dpkg

* Brandon Mitchell said: > Hi Aaron, > > I would be interested in seeing your design. It may clear up some > concerns as to why you are picking your language (which seems to have I would like to see it as well. So far, not even a single argument has been presented to justify the selection of C++

Re: evan leibovitch and the LPI certification tests

"Tyger Sunshine-Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, maybe, but the fact is that Debian could use some sponsorships or > major donations, and as long as RH keeps the spotlight, guess who they go > to? Eventually, we have to get Debian out of its shell and get "the average > linux user" (If

Re: mass-installing Debian

Dean Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've been thinking a bit about the need for mass-installations. Having > done a few of them, it gets to be a tad tedious ... > > Currently, the preinst and postinst scripts ask the user questions, and > make changes according to the responses. Instea

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 03:07:03PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > I also heard that templates bloat the code Depends on how you use them. Templates work by duplicating code. > what size are your executable compared to equivalent C stuff, Equivalent C code? For every template in C++ the equivalent

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 12:25:58AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > But yes, you can write an "id()" function which behaves differently depending > on what is passed to it. You misunderstand. id is the identity function, defined for all types and returns what it is given. In C++ terms, then: templ

Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)

Oleg Krivosheev wrote: > is there REALLY plans to release something around June 6? No, and there never were. Maybe they mean snapshots of unstable? Richard Braakman

Re: request to kill nag messages

Christian Meder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 11:48:25AM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote: > > Christian Meder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Example: I've got an open old bug report that flying > > > (a X11 pool game) doesn't support 16/24 bit displays. The upstream > > > > Th

Re: better /etc/init.d/network

On May 19, Michel Onstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >As we're discussing things here... i think it's important that we add the >possbility to attach IPv6 addresses to an interface. Since you can have Agreed. We should try doing it right the first time. -- ciao, Marco

Re: [ITP/mostly packaged] hftpd

On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 05:09:27PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: [snip] > > We really should have a policy for things like this. How about adding > > another Provides: to kernel images (built by the excellent make-kpkg): > > Because too many people don't use debian kernel images. How about only mak

Re: mass-installing Debian

On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 01:06:48PM -0400, tony mancill wrote: [snip] > On a related note, couldn't we have an environment variable set at > installation time, e.g. "NON_INTERACTIVE_DPKG=TRUE", and have the > maintainer scripts check this to see if they should ask questions or not? > If this variab

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