Re: Debian target audience

1997-06-17 Thread Alex Yukhimets
> > The problem of having both libc5 and libc6 run-time libraries is minor, > > the main one is that those stuck with libc5-dev cannot use other > > newly-available versions of *libraries* from hamm. > > How do you mean? You can install the *libraries* just fine, it's just > the development versi

Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-06-17 Thread Brian C. White
The following message is a list of items to be completed for the upcoming releases of Debian GNU/Linux. If something is missing, incorrect, or you want to take responsibility for one or more items, please send email to: Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This document was last modified at Time-stam

hamm and dftp

1997-06-17 Thread Douglas L Stewart
Is there a dftp.conf setup I can use that doesn't require me to do some sed work on the packages file? The paths are wrong for the mirrors in the one that's on the servers now. -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-m

Orphaning dftp.

1997-06-17 Thread Rob Browning
I'd like to officially offer dftp up for adoption. I don't use it anymore -- dselect works much better for me now that I came to terms with it -- and so I don't really have much interest in maintaining dftp anymore (that and the fact that I have a bunch of other things I'm supposed to be doing).

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-17 Thread Tim Cutts
On 16 Jun 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote: > I meant the possibility for a customer to request the ISP exim to reject > any mail that comes from, say, savetrees.com. You know, what AOL does, > except I want individual customers to be able to configure individual > lists. I don't think that is po

Re: Status of Debian Policy

1997-06-17 Thread Carey Evans
Santiago Vila Doncel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] > The simplest solution is to ship html in a different package. This way > the user will be able to choose to not install the html docs if he/she > believes info2www is enough. It might be nice if different types of duplicate documentation

Re: Status of Debian Policy

1997-06-17 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Erik B. Andersen wrote: > I cannot agree more. We should definatly add these fields to the > .deb package format! This will involve a bit of work, but will be > VERY worth it. No more licensing surprises, for instance. I second that! This would even make my proposed READM

Re: Status of Debian Policy

1997-06-17 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > TOPIC 7: new definition of ``free software'' > > This is only about the "main" section. > > In addition to that, I wonder why we are supporting this packages in the > `contrib' section: > >

Re: Orphaning dftp.

1997-06-17 Thread Roman Hodek
> I'd like to officially offer dftp up for adoption. I don't use it > anymore -- dselect works much better for me now that I came to terms > with it -- and so I don't really have much interest in maintaining > dftp anymore (that and the fact that I have a bunch of other things > I'm supposed to be

Re: Status of Debian Policy

1997-06-17 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Sorry, I didn't explain well. I said: *--- I wonder why we are supporting this packages in the `contrib' section: * whose copyright permission notices (or patent problems) allow only

RE: inetd question

1997-06-17 Thread Michael Meskes
Yes, I use a proxy and both proxy and www-client run on the same machine. But it appears the ident calls came from my firewall where I run a http-gw. You're absolutely right that I should get rid of that traffic. There is no need for the firewall to ask identd on a local machine. But it should as

Re: inetd question

1997-06-17 Thread Peter Tobias
On Jun 15, Kai Henningsen wrote: > > > I guess it's the ident service. So I try nowait.120 and see what > > > happens. > > > > Of course it is the ident service (that's what the error message of > > inetd said). But the ident service is not a service that is used > > alone. You have an application/

Re: (bogus mailing list message)

1997-06-17 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I hope he has good arguments for it, since I would not like to have two > concurring menu systems in Debian: menu and dwww. I think it shouldn't be > too hard to change the menu package to dwww's needs, if this should be > necess

Re: When will bash 2.01 be packaged?

1997-06-17 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Guy Maor is the current maintainer of the "bash" package. However, he told > us that he is offline for about 4 weeks. So I think someone else should > grab it and upload a non-maintainer (interim) release. Is

Re: locale errors

1997-06-17 Thread Tomislav Vujec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) wrote on 15.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I got that (with perl only) before I installed debian; it doesn't like > > locale settings that other programs seem to get on with OK. Try removing the > > LANG variable and i

Re: Status of Debian Policy

1997-06-17 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Jun 17, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote > Sorry, I didn't explain well. I said: > > *--- > I wonder why we are supporting this packages in the `contrib' section: > > * whose copyright permission notices (or patent problems) al

RE: locale errors

1997-06-17 Thread Michael Meskes
No! You cannot use libc5 compiled perl with glibc locales! Wait for a libc6 version of perl and everything should be fine again. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Projekt-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Europark A2, Adenauerstr. 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-06-17 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Brian C. White wrote: > August 31, 1997 All packages depending on libc4 or libc5 will be removed. This is too much strong. I would suggest to make their associated bug (the one saying "it's still libc5") "almost-critical" instead. -BEG

Re: When will bash 2.01 be packaged?

1997-06-17 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) writes: > > Guy Maor is the current maintainer of the "bash" package. However, > > he told us that he is offline for about 4 weeks. So I think > > someone else should grab it and upload a non-maintainer (interim) > > release. > > Is that necessary just to work round

Re: locale errors

1997-06-17 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tomislav Vujec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But setting LANG to _correct_ value (e.g. en or en_US) might help. perl was giving me errors when I had it set to en_GB (before I installed debian).

Re: Status of Debian Policy

1997-06-17 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fernando) wrote: >Author: name and email of main upstream author (copyright holder) >License: code describing license type >Original-Site: site/URL at which the package is originally stored Yes. >We could even go further and specify the type of non-free license. >Common types

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-17 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
Santiago Vila Doncel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I think libraries should not need priorities (or they need them much less >than ordinary program packages). So if they have more or less priority, I >really don't mind. Go ahead. I have a suggestion for libraries: most users don't want or need to

How do we do modules?

1997-06-17 Thread csmall
G'day All, Now that I've taked over ax25 utilites from Bruce, I'm slowly working on the makefiles etc so that we will have a huge leap forward in versions to the latest and greatest. But there is a small associated problem. There is a lot of amateur radio device drivers in the kernel. Now havi

tin copyright problems?

1997-06-17 Thread Peter Tobias
/usr/doc/tin/copyright says that tin is distributed under the GPL but lots of *.c files have one of the following copyright statements: * Copyright : (c) Copyright 1991-94 by Iain Lea * You may freely copy or redistribute this software, * so long as there is no p

Re: Status of Debian Policy

1997-06-17 Thread Peter Tobias
On Jun 17, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > Original-Site: site/URL at which the package is originally stored > > Ok. I think "Original-Site" is used in the .lsm entries. Wouldn't > something like "Upstream-Site" be better? It is important that more than one "Upstream-Site" field is allowed. Not fo

Re: Orphaning dftp.

1997-06-17 Thread Rob Browning
Roman Hodek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd volunteer for maintaining dftp, at least for a while, if nobody > else does. I also have a lot of things to do and not too much time > left, but I need dftp for my two machines at home Right. Just in case you hadn't thought of it you could use dselec

Re: Obsolete package CGI-modules (hamm)

1997-06-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Scott" == Scott K Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Scott> Umm, actually perl5 only includes CGI.pm, and CGI::Apache, Scott> Carp, Fast, Push, and Switch. The libs from CGI-modules are Scott> NOT included. So we do still need a cgi-modules package, Scott> although perhaps in a renamed and

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-17 Thread Chris Fearnley
'Tim Cutts wrote:' >On 14 Jun 1997, John Goerzen wrote: >> Christoph Lameter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > It might be good if we would replace smail in hamm with exim. Exim should >> > be the standard mailer for hamm: >> >> Exim doesn't provide UUCP capabilities *at all*, thus it is rather >>

Re: How do we do modules?

1997-06-17 Thread Bruce Perens
I think you should build a 2.1.x boot disk using the boot-floppies scripts, since ax.25 is so much nicer in 2.1 it makes no sense to base new work on 2.0 . When you build the kernel, you get to decide what is a module and what is not in the configuration menu. Thanks Bruce -- Bru

Re: tin copyright problems?

1997-06-17 Thread Bruce Perens
Ugh. Can someone write to them? Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsub

GNU stow

1997-06-17 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
Hi, I hope no-one minds that I've gone ahead and dome this without asking first... I've packaged GNU stow 1.3.2. This may not sound useful, it being another package management system, but I find it pretty useful to manage my /usr/local directory, so there it is. It's at ftp://pcsw104b.ukc.ac.uk

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-17 Thread Martin Alonso Soto Jacome
Charles Briscoe-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a suggestion for libraries: most users don't want or need to > know about shared libraries when installing and upgrading their system, > or when adding an app etc. I totally agree here. The Debian package format includes enough informatio

create Packages.gz file from directory

1997-06-17 Thread Christian Leutloff
Hello! I want to create a Packages.gz file for local files, i.e. on a CD-ROM or ZIP floppy. Using dpkg --record-avail -R /usr/src/deb it's possible to get the information "manually", but how can I write it to a file?? (dpkg version was 1.4.0.8) Thanks Christian -- Christian Leutloff, A

Re: create Packages.gz file from directory

1997-06-17 Thread Martin Schulze
Christian Leutloff writes: > I want to create a Packages.gz file for local files, i.e. on a CD-ROM > or ZIP floppy. > > Using > > dpkg --record-avail -R /usr/src/deb > > it's possible to get the information "manually", but how can I write > it to a file?? There is dpkg-scanpackages somewhere.

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-17 Thread Behan Webster
Martin Alonso Soto Jacome wrote: > > If you think about it, there's really no reason to select a shared > > library package by hand; if you want a binary that uses it, it'll > > depend on it; if you want to build against it, you install the -dev > > package (which depends on it). The only time you

Re: locale errors

1997-06-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Meskes) wrote on 17.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > No! You cannot use libc5 compiled perl with glibc locales! Wait for a > libc6 version of perl and everything should be fine again. This is, of course, a problem nearly as serious as that about utmp. MfG Kai -- TO

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Cutts) wrote on 17.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 16 Jun 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote: > > > I meant the possibility for a customer to request the ISP exim to reject > > any mail that comes from, say, savetrees.com. You know, what AOL does, > > except I want individual cu

Re: locale errors

1997-06-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tomislav Vujec) wrote on 17.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) wrote on 15.06.97 in > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I got that (with perl only) > > > before I installed debian; it doesn't like locale setti

Re: hamm and dftp

1997-06-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas L Stewart) wrote on 16.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Is there a dftp.conf setup I can use that doesn't require me to do some > sed work on the packages file? The paths are wrong for the mirrors in the > one that's on the servers now. The paths in the Packages file c

Processed: reassignments

1997-06-17 Thread Ian Jackson
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 10089 xbase Bug#10089: Experiences with 1.3 ("bo") Bug reassigned from package `project' to `xbase'. > reassign 5583 boot-floppies Bug#5583: Shortcomings of install.txt and debian-manual.txt Bug reassigned from package `manual' to `boot-floppi

Re: Debian-Policy Manual

1997-06-17 Thread David Frey
> > David Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>TOPIC 4: editor/pager policy > > > What is the benefit of /usr/bin/sensible-{editor,pager}? > > > Why don't we just default to EDITOR=/usr/bin/vi and PAGER=/usr/bin/more > > > if both variables are unset? (auch, don't beat me) > > > > That might

Re: Debian-Policy Manual

1997-06-17 Thread Scott Ellis
On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, David Frey wrote: > > The files /usr/bin/{editor,pager} will be managed through alternatives. > > Since alternatives can be changed by the sysadmin only, we allow the user > > to define EDITOR and PAGER to override this. > > > > That's why we need "sensible-{editor,pager}".

Re: locale errors

1997-06-17 Thread Ben Pfaff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Meskes) wrote on 17.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > No! You cannot use libc5 compiled perl with glibc locales! Wait for a > > libc6 version of perl and everything should be fine again. > > This is, of course, a problem n

Re: GNU stow

1997-06-17 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charles Briscoe-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's at ftp://pcsw104b.ukc.ac.uk/pub/cpb4/>, and I will upload it > as and when. Incidentally, there's a package there called 'curses', Assuming that's the game by Graham Nelson, great, I like being able

Re: locale errors

1997-06-17 Thread Erv Walter
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Re: locale errors

1997-06-17 Thread Erv Walter
Damn, pinepgp is screwing up auto signatures. Sorry. === > On 17 Jun 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Meskes) wrote on 17.06.97 in <[EMAIL > > > PROTECTED]>: > > > > >