Hi,
Quoting Geert Stappers (2019-03-24 09:53:58)
> > bear with me if the topic of the upcoming european copyright law (aka §13)
> > has been discussed in other mailing lists. As being responsible for
> > screenshots.debian.net I honestly am a bit worried about the implicat
On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 12:13:37PM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> Fellow devs,
>
> bear with me if the topic of the upcoming european copyright law (aka
> §13) has been discussed in other mailing lists. As being responsible for
> screenshots.debian.net I honestly am a bit wo
Fellow devs,
bear with me if the topic of the upcoming european copyright law (aka
§13) has been discussed in other mailing lists. As being responsible for
screenshots.debian.net I honestly am a bit worried about the
implications. As usual… IANAL.
Management summary: screenshots.debian.net is a
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 09:12:08PM -0800, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
was heard to say:
> I'm not surprised that the bandwidth consumption is excessive,
> though. I'll think it over once I figure out why my VteTerminals
> self-destruct when I hide them...
For anyone who cares, the ans
Daniel Burrows wrote:
[...]
>
> I'm not surprised that the bandwidth consumption is excessive,
> though. I'll think it over once I figure out why my VteTerminals
> self-destruct when I hide them...
What about using the coral network?
http://screenshots.debian.net.nyud.net/
Have fun! (yes, th
This ensures that casual browsing of the package list
> does not generate network traffic on s.d.n
>
> I think even that will be quite a hit to screenshots.debian.net. I
> imagine in the future it may make sense to have a package for this
> (this was suggested already IIRC) so tha
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:02:45PM +0200, George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
was heard to say:
> On Monday 17 November 2008 18:13:55 Daniel Burrows wrote:
> > When the user clicks on a package in the GUI interface, they see the
> > description of the package. I don't know what sort of load this
Christoph Haas
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
> > > > Thumbnail (<= 160x120 pixels):
> > > > http://screenshots.debian.net/thumbnail/PACKAGENAME
> > > > (this URL returns a dummy thumbnail if no screenshot was found)
> > >
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Andrei Popescu
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe for stable it would make sense to create a "debian-screenshots"
> package that could be used by all package managers wishing to provide
> this or similar functionality.
There is already a games-thumbnails package (
On Mon,17.Nov.08, 08:13:55, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> Let's just say, hypothetically speaking, that I'm the developer of a
> GUI package manager for Debian. It would be nice (where by nice I mean
> *really UBERCOOL*) if, whenever users see a list of packages, they could
> see a little thumbnail
On Monday 17 November 2008 18:13:55 Daniel Burrows wrote:
--cut--
> > There is one. It uses the HTTP protocol. :) Just do an HTTP POST request
> > and send the three fields like in the upload form.
>
> Err...when I go to upload I get a webform, not a URL to point to? How
> do I generate an "HTTP
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:49:06AM +0100, Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
was heard to say:
> On Montag, 17. November 2008, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 07:46:27PM +0100, Christoph Haas
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
> > > There should be a way to select what scre
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Christoph Haas wrote:
On Montag, 17. November 2008, Daniel Burrows wrote:
Personally, I would rather be able to provide a version number
and then get the "best" screenshot you have.
What is the "best"? :)
I have o idea what Daniel had in mind, but I'd regard the scree
On Montag, 17. November 2008, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 07:46:27PM +0100, Christoph Haas
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
> > There should be a way to select what screenshot you want. I'm saving
> > the version number along with the screenshot.
>
> Personally, I would
> Thumbnail (<= 160x120 pixels):
> > > http://screenshots.debian.net/thumbnail/PACKAGENAME
> > > (this URL returns a dummy thumbnail if no screenshot was found)
> >
> > Just one quick question: will there eventually be support for
> > different versions to have
Christoph Haas wrote:
[...]
>
> There should be a way to select what screenshot you want. I'm saving the
> version number along with the screenshot. So in theory I could tell which
> one is for a newer version of the software than the other (although I'd
> have to 'dpkg --compare-versions' because
On Sonntag, 16. November 2008, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:18:26PM +0100, Christoph Haas
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
> > Thumbnail (<= 160x120 pixels):
> > http://screenshots.debian.net/thumbnail/PACKAGENAME
> > (this URL r
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:18:26PM +0100, Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
was heard to say:
> Thumbnail (<= 160x120 pixels):
> http://screenshots.debian.net/thumbnail/PACKAGENAME
> (this URL returns a dummy thumbnail if no screenshot was found)
Just one quick qu
2008/11/15 Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 2008/11/11 Darren Salt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Good idea. 110x80 would be a nice size for the thumbnails.
I think it would be better to try to keep a 4:3 ratio.
>>> I disagree; the aspect ratio of th
Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/11/11 Darren Salt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Good idea. 110x80 would be a nice size for the thumbnails.
>>> I think it would be better to try to keep a 4:3 ratio.
>> I disagree; the aspect ratio of the screenshot would be correct.
> Sorry? In which way
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Martin Stigge wrote:
What about: People can contribute screenshots in whatever language they
want and the screenshot will be language-tagged. A viewer-frontend can
then adopt a behavior like "show all screenshots of my language, and if
none exist, fallback to English". (Or o
ptic, kpackage, adept or gnome-apt. It is
> > easy to refer to screenshots from your own application or web site.
> > Just use these URLs:
> >
> > Thumbnail (<= 160x120 pixels):
> > http://screenshots.debian.net/thumbnail/PACKAGENAME
> > (t
On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 13:08 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> I think it would be pointless to reach a scenario where people are
> encouraged to submit the same screenshot for all different
> languages. That would be a PITA to maintain and unnecessary in most
> cases.
>
> Still, for different alp
from your
> own application or web site. Just use these URLs:
>
> Thumbnail (<= 160x120 pixels):
> http://screenshots.debian.net/thumbnail/PACKAGENAME
> (this URL returns a dummy thumbnail if no screenshot was found)
>
> Package's page with all available screensh
2008/11/14 Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Maybe the right solution is support some kind of language tagging to
> be associated to each screenshot.
+1
Greetings,
Miry
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Quoting Stefano Zacchiroli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Still, for different alphabets there might be an added value. AFAICT
> it is possible that an application looks sensibly different when using
> a left-to-right vs a right-to-left language.
Indeed, I support zack's suggestion. Allowing multiple sc
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:28:52AM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> I'm about to make the application i18n-savvy. But I'm more thinking of the
> text messages in the web interface than of the screenshots. Screenshots in
> several languages carry very little different information IMHO and don't
> w
Hi,
kudos from me for this nice service as well!!
On Friday 14 November 2008 10:28, Christoph Haas wrote:
> Screenshots in
> several languages carry very little different information IMHO and don't
> warrant the extra hard disk space and effort to have them on the web
> server. Or am I totally of
On Freitag, 14. November 2008, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Please excuse my cumbersomeness but may I repeat my hint that a
> potential Screenshots 2.0 system should enable multi language
> screenshots. I'm in big favour of translating everything which is
> targeting at end users and screenshots are def
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Christoph Haas wrote:
Thanks, fixed.
Also, when you say "English", which one do you mean?
I mean that west germanic language[0]. I wouldn't delete a screenshot just
because one uses 's' where the other uses 'z'. :)
[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language
Ple
Hi, Michael...
On Donnerstag, 13. November 2008, Michael Lamothe wrote:
> There's a little typo on the page ... "appliation".
Thanks, fixed.
> Also, when you say "English", which one do you mean?
I mean that west germanic language[0]. I wouldn't delete a screenshot just
because one uses 's' wh
Hi Christoph,
There's a little typo on the page ... "appliation". Also, when you
say "English", which one do you mean?
Cheers,
Michael
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Marc,
On Mittwoch, 12. November 2008, Marc Bertram wrote:
> Thank you for this great service!
Great you like it.
> I found a bug in the search results.
> If you go to another page of the search results (e.g. 2), you go
> back on the page "browsing screenshots".
> I think there is a wrong link to
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008, Christoph Haas wrote:
Fellow developers...
it took a little longer than I expected but I finally launched
http://screenshots.debian.net
after two weeks of programming fun.
It is an effort to help users get an idea what a certain application does
and how it loo
Quoting Christoph Haas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I intend to make the application i18n-savvy. But that's currently not the
> hightest priority on my todo list. As soon as the other issues are sorted
> out I'll happily gettextify the application and send you a file to
> translate. Thanks for the of
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Christoph Haas wrote:
How can i contribute a german translation? ;-)
I intend to make the application i18n-savvy. But that's currently not the
hightest priority on my todo list. As soon as the other issues are sorted
out I'll happily gettextify the application and send you
Paul Wise wrote:
[...]
>
> Version info would be useful for providing a list of packages with
> outdated screenshots in any given dist (sid/etch). Also, I think
> multiple screenshots per package are needed so that the
> packages.d.o/sid/foo and packages.d.o/etch/foo pages can point to the
> right
Christoph Haas wrote:
> On Dienstag, 11. November 2008, Paul Wise wrote:
[...]
>>
>> s.d.n/needed/sid/a
>> s.d.n/needed/etch/b
>
> That would work for Etch - but not for Sid because it's a moving target. So
> far I would just stick to the version number (not yet implemented).
Maybe one for testi
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Christoph Haas wrote:
> I intend to make the application i18n-savvy. But that's currently
> not the hightest priority on my todo list. As soon as the other
> issues are sorted out I'll happily gettextify the application and
> send you a
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Christoph Haas wrote:
> Fellow developers...
>
> it took a little longer than I expected but I finally launched
>
> http://screenshots.debian.net
>
> after two weeks of programming fun.
How can i contribute a german tran
Hi, Florian...
On Dienstag, 11. November 2008, Florian Maier wrote:
> Christoph Haas wrote:
> > Fellow developers...
> >
> > it took a little longer than I expected but I finally launched
> >
> > http://screenshots.debian.net
> >
> > after two weeks o
2008/11/11 Noah Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> So it can be that your disagreement is not that relevant :)
I won't keep on arguing that, my point was clear enough.
> Not at all, I was assuming that no matter what size the uploaded image is, it
> would be scaled down to fit inside a bounding box
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 09:24:18PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 08:54:07PM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote:
> > >> I think it would be better to try to keep a 4:3 ratio.
> > > I disagree; the aspect ratio of the screenshot would be correct.
> > Conventional screens are 4:3 or
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 08:54:07PM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote:
> 2008/11/11 Darren Salt
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I disagree; the aspect ratio of the screenshot would be
> > correct.
>
> Sorry? In which way is 110X80 a correct ratio?
>
> Conventional screens are 4:3 or 16:9, and most usual
> resol
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 08:54:07PM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote:
> >> I think it would be better to try to keep a 4:3 ratio.
> > I disagree; the aspect ratio of the screenshot would be correct.
> Conventional screens are 4:3 or 16:9, and most usual resolutions keep
> 4:3 ratio (640x480, 800x600, 1024x7
2008/11/11 Darren Salt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> Good idea. 110x80 would be a nice size for the thumbnails.
>> I think it would be better to try to keep a 4:3 ratio.
> I disagree; the aspect ratio of the screenshot would be correct.
Sorry? In which way is 110X80 a correct ratio?
Conventional scree
I demand that Miriam Ruiz may or may not have written...
> 2008/11/11 Noah Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:38:44AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>>> I believe the answer is that in the future there will be more
>>> screenshot, but what about giving the ability of seein
2008/11/11 Noah Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:38:44AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>> I believe the answer is that in the future there will be more
>> screenshot, but what about giving the ability of seeing one (maybe the
>> "most popular") screenshot directly from th
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:38:44AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> I believe the answer is that in the future there will be more
> screenshot, but what about giving the ability of seeing one (maybe the
> "most popular") screenshot directly from the result page?
Good idea. 110x80 would be a nice
On Tue Nov 11, 2008 at 01:02:42 +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> > * There are 14 pages and the navigation is truncated to 'Page: 1 2 3 ..
> >14 >'. Could you (optionally) display links to all pages? Or alter
> >the number of results per page (increase, or make user configurable)?
>
> I'll
On Dienstag, 11. November 2008, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 01:02:42AM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> > > * There are 14 pages and the navigation is truncated to 'Page: 1 2
> > > 3 .. 14 >'. Could you (optionally) display links to all pages? Or
> > > alter the number of res
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:05:32PM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> Have fun and let me know what you think.
Another minor one: when browsing through the result of a package
search, please repeat somewhere the search string, a-la-google "result
for search foo bar baz". It just happened to me that I
On Dienstag, 11. November 2008, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Raphael Geissert
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * When browsing the packages list it would be great if you could also
> > provide links to browse packages by name (e.g. A, B, C, etc, you get
> > what I mean). *
On Dienstag, 11. November 2008, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Also need lists of packages without screenshots for a given dist:
> >
> > s.d.n/needed/sid/a
> > s.d.n/needed/etch/b
>
> In a similar vein, it might be a good idea to have p
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 01:02:42AM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> > * There are 14 pages and the navigation is truncated to 'Page: 1 2 3 ..
> >14 >'. Could you (optionally) display links to all pages? Or alter
> >the number of results per page (increase, or make user configurable)?
>
> I'
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 05:49:40PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> > I do think the page lengths, or result count per page, could be increased.
> +1
AOL.
... and on the same subject, is there a restriction of one screenshot
per package (I believe not), because currently the pages of the single
p
Hi,
Christoph Haas wrote:
> On Montag, 10. November 2008, Jon Dowland wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:05:32PM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> > > Have fun and let me know what you think.
> >
> > Thank you for this; it looks very nice!
+1
> > * what does the search field operate on? A sear
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also need lists of packages without screenshots for a given dist:
>
> s.d.n/needed/sid/a
> s.d.n/needed/etch/b
In a similar vein, it might be a good idea to have per-maintainer
lists of packages with outdated screenshots or
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 00:20 +0900, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > - You state that screenshot will be released under the same term of
> > the screenshot-ed package, why so? It seems to me rather arbitrary
> > and makes
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So are we safe as long as we don't include non-free packages and claim that
> the screenshots are licensed under the terms of the application itself?
> IANAL and find that gibberish from your quoted posting pretty hard t
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Raphael Geissert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * When browsing the packages list it would be great if you could also provide
> links to browse packages by name (e.g. A, B, C, etc, you get what I mean).
> * Have you considered storing more information together with t
Christoph Haas wrote:
> Fellow developers...
>
> it took a little longer than I expected but I finally launched
>
> http://screenshots.debian.net
Great! thanks for your great job
>
> after two weeks of programming fun.
[...]
>
> Please take a look at the site, con
On Montag, 10. November 2008, Jon Dowland wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:05:32PM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> > Have fun and let me know what you think.
>
> Thank you for this; it looks very nice!
>
> Some quick comments:
>
> * don't list packages with only pending screenshots in the list o
Noah Slater wrote:
[...]
>
> I do think the page lengths, or result count per page, could be increased.
>
+1
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:02:24AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> IMO the BTS has taught us that SOAP is the good way to go, on top of
> that we can have whatever programming language API we need.
I'd agree that it's tought us the value of *an* API, but I (at least)
have yet to love SOAP. Exce
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:05:32PM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> Have fun and let me know what you think.
Thank you for this; it looks very nice!
Some quick comments:
* don't list packages with only pending screenshots in the list of
screenshots. There's a few packages at the moment listed
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 04:46:10PM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> Thanks. I love positive feedback. Developers often tend to point out
> errors way more than enjoying what's already there. :)
My pleasure :)
> > Suggestion: just name a license and stick to it.
Given the comment from pabs (which
Hi Christoph,
many thanks for this effort - I admit I started dreaming of such a thing
in the beginning of this year - it does not happen that often that dreams
become true that fast. ;-)
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008, Christoph Haas wrote:
Thanks to the framework used (Pylons) I can fully control whic
On Montag, 10. November 2008, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:05:32PM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> > it took a little longer than I expected but I finally launched
> > http://screenshots.debian.net
>
> First of all thanks a lot for the effort,
2008/11/10 Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/11/10 Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> I can even offer JSON, SOAP, XML, whatever if needed. Some URL that can be
>> used in an IMG/SRC tag should probably be sufficient for packages.d.o.
>> I'll soon document the URL schema so everybody ca
2008/11/10 Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> So are we safe as long as we don't include non-free packages and claim that
> the screenshots are licensed under the terms of the application itself?
Yes, in my opinion that should be enough.
Miry
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2008/11/10 Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I can even offer JSON, SOAP, XML, whatever if needed. Some URL that can be
> used in an IMG/SRC tag should probably be sufficient for packages.d.o.
> I'll soon document the URL schema so everybody can use it. Just let me
> know what information you
On Montag, 10. November 2008, Miriam Ruiz wrote:
> 2008/11/10 Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I can even offer JSON, SOAP, XML, whatever if needed. Some URL that
> > can be used in an IMG/SRC tag should probably be sufficient for
> > packages.d.o. I'll soon document the URL schema so everyb
y launched
>> > http://screenshots.debian.net
>>
>> First of all thanks a lot for the effort, the result is already really
>> cool and in perspective it is amazingly useful!
>
> Thanks. I love positive feedback. Developers often tend to point out errors
> way more than enjoyin
On Montag, 10. November 2008, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > - You state that screenshot will be released under the same term of
> > the screenshot-ed package, why so? It seems to me rather arbitrary
> > and makes impossible
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:16:06PM +0100, Guus Sliepen wrote:
> Please do not reduce images in size. The screenshots of, for example, dillo
> and
> amiwm are horrible. If you have a guideline of having a maximum size of
> 800x600 pixels, just give an error when someone uploads a screenshot that is
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - You state that screenshot will be released under the same term of
> the screenshot-ed package, why so? It seems to me rather arbitrary
> and makes impossible to bundle all screenshot together on a media
> and di
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:05:32PM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> it took a little longer than I expected but I finally launched
> http://screenshots.debian.net
First of all thanks a lot for the effort, the result is already really
cool and in perspective it is amazingly useful!
>
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 15:29 +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> On Montag, 10. November 2008, Guus Sliepen wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:05:32PM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> > > it took a little longer than I expected but I finally launched
> > >
> >
Fellow developers...
it took a little longer than I expected but I finally launched
http://screenshots.debian.net
after two weeks of programming fun.
It is an effort to help users get an idea what a certain application does
and how it looks like by offering screenshots. It was
On Montag, 10. November 2008, Guus Sliepen wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:05:32PM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> > it took a little longer than I expected but I finally launched
> >
> > http://screenshots.debian.net
>
> [...]
>
> > Have fun and let m
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:05:32PM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> it took a little longer than I expected but I finally launched
>
> http://screenshots.debian.net
[...]
> Have fun and let me know what you think.
Please do not reduce images in size. The screenshots of, for ex
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