On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 10:12:59PM +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 10:21 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 09:13:43AM +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
> > > Other package that depend on menu... mostly meta package
> > >
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 10:21 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 09:13:43AM +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
> > Other package that depend on menu... mostly meta package
> > ===
> > +---+---++
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 09:13:43AM +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
> Other package that depend on menu... mostly meta package
> ===
> +---+---+++
> |Package name |provide| su in | Dependency
On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 07:20 +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> Quoting Bill Allombert (bill.allomb...@math.u-bordeaux1.fr):
>
> > > What about moving the su-to-root binary to a different binary package ?
> > > Bill what's your PoV about spliting it ?
>
> In that case, I think that the above discus
Am 03.11.2011 19:28, schrieb Luk Claes:
> On 11/03/2011 07:20 AM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> It seems many uses of su-to-root could be replaced by pkexec (package
> policykit-1), no?
>
> Or is there something wrong with that approach?
Ideally, applications should support policykit natively and sp
On 11/03/2011 07:20 AM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> Quoting Bill Allombert (bill.allomb...@math.u-bordeaux1.fr):
>
>>> What about moving the su-to-root binary to a different binary package ?
>>> Bill what's your PoV about spliting it ?
>>
>> I am not very keen creating a new Debian package for a 3k
Le jeudi 03 novembre 2011 à 00:48 +0100, Bill Allombert a écrit :
> The real issue is that nobody is really maintaining the XDG menu system.
No, the real issue here is that some packages require to run GUIs as
root while X11 was not designed to do that. Upstream is not going to
encourage broken b
Quoting Bill Allombert (bill.allomb...@math.u-bordeaux1.fr):
> > What about moving the su-to-root binary to a different binary package ?
> > Bill what's your PoV about spliting it ?
>
> I am not very keen creating a new Debian package for a 3kB script.
In that case, I think that the above discu
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 01:14:59PM +0100, Frank lin Piat wrote:
> > On Sun 30/10/11 11:31 , Daniel Baumann wrote::
> > > On 10/29/2011 08:49 PM, Frank lin Piat wrote:
> >> I intend to submit a mass bug filling to ask packages maintainer to drop or
> >> downgrade their dependency on "menu":
> >
> >
Hi,
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011, Luk Claes wrote:
> On 11/01/2011 08:58 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 13:10 +, Jonathan Wiltshire a écrit :
> >> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 08:49:01PM +0200, Frank lin Piat wrote:
> >>> Specious "depends" relationship [AFAICT]:
> >>> backint
On 11/01/2011 08:58 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 13:10 +, Jonathan Wiltshire a écrit :
>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 08:49:01PM +0200, Frank lin Piat wrote:
>>> Specious "depends" relationship [AFAICT]:
>>> backintime-gnome - GNOME front-end for backintime
>>>
Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 13:10 +, Jonathan Wiltshire a écrit :
> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 08:49:01PM +0200, Frank lin Piat wrote:
> > Specious "depends" relationship [AFAICT]:
> > backintime-gnome - GNOME front-end for backintime
> > backintime-kde- KDE front-end for backinti
> On Mon 31/10/11 11:20 , Petter Reinholdtsen wrote::
>
> [Frank lin Piat]
> > Any chance to go ahead? It would be a pity if the only solution was
> > to fork su-to-root (and possible merge xdg-su[2]) in a new
> > source+binary package :-(
FYI ... a KDE specific solution...
For those intereste
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 08:49:01PM +0200, Frank lin Piat wrote:
> Specious "depends" relationship [AFAICT]:
> backintime-gnome - GNOME front-end for backintime
> backintime-kde- KDE front-end for backintime
This is because of su-to-root.
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[Frank lin Piat]
> Any chance to go ahead? It would be a pity if the only solution was
> to fork su-to-root (and possible merge xdg-su[2]) in a new
> source+binary package :-(
Is there no other package installed on most/all desktop installations
that can be the home of such script? A quick look o
Quoting Frank lin Piat (fp...@klabs.be):
> Specious "suggests" relationship [AFAICT]:
.../...
> geneweb - genealogy software with web interface
>
Doh, my pet package is pointed fingers at...:-)
Fixed in 6.00-2. Thanks for your work on this!
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On Sun 30/10/11 18:51, "Russ Allbery" r...@debian.org wrote:
> Frank lin Piat fp...@klabs.be writes:
> On Sun 30/10/11 11:31 , Daniel Baumann wrote::
> >> packages that need root have to use su-to-root in order to play
> >> well on live systems (where you know at runtime if sudo,
> >> su, gksu, $w
On Sun 30/10/11 13:55, "Bernhard R. Link" brl...@debian.org wrote:
> * Frank lin Piat [111029 20:49]:
> [Please, reply/discuss .. separate thread.]
> Please don't put stupid requests into then...
> (Not even speaking about the flames outside ).
>
> > Specious "recommends" relationship [AFAICT]:
Frank lin Piat writes:
> On Sun 30/10/11 11:31 , Daniel Baumann wrote::
>> packages that need root have to use su-to-root in order to play well on
>> live systems (where you know at runtime if sudo, su, gksu, $whatever
>> has to be used). your package list contains such cases. [..]
> What about
* Frank lin Piat [111029 20:49]:
> [Please, reply/discuss .. separate thread.]
Please don't put stupid requests into then...
(Not even speaking about the flames outside ).
> Specious "recommends" relationship [AFAICT]:
> [...]
> ratpoison - keyboard-only window manager
I do not
Le dimanche 30 octobre 2011 à 13:14 +0100, Frank lin Piat a écrit :
> As a side benefit, if su-to-root were not inside menu, I guess that many
> package
> would depend on it, rather than depending directly on gksu or kdesudo as they
> currently do...
Anyway these packages should be fix to stop
> On Sun 30/10/11 11:31 , Daniel Baumann wrote::
> > On 10/29/2011 08:49 PM, Frank lin Piat wrote:
>> I intend to submit a mass bug filling to ask packages maintainer to drop or
>> downgrade their dependency on "menu":
>
>[...]
>
> packages that need root have to use su-to-root in order to play we
On 10/29/2011 08:49 PM, Frank lin Piat wrote:
> I intend to submit a mass bug filling to ask packages maintainer to drop or
> downgrade their dependency on "menu":
[...]
packages that need root have to use su-to-root in order to play well on
live systems (where you know at runtime if sudo, su, gk
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Frank lin Piat wrote:
> Debian Games Team
> xmahjongg
>
Fixed in SVN.
I'd also like to see wishlist bugs on all the menu-only window
managers asking for FreeDesktop menu support.
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Lots of package seems to have some kind of dependency on "menu" which
aren't needed/useful. Therefore, removing the "menu" package on a
given system isn't always possible. Also, many packages seems depends,
recommends or sugg
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