Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-13 Thread Guy Maor
Turbo Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sure, no prob, IF I know what the differences are... :) Assuming you have libc6-dev and libc5-altdev installed, /usr/include/utmpbits.h has the new structure, and /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/include/utmp.h has the old structure. The new structure has many

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-13 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
On 13 Dec 1997, Guy Maor wrote: > oh, yuck. You're just going to have to rewrite your routines to use > the new structure. Thing is, I _THINK_ I'm already using the new structure, but I don't know for sure... > I'm sure you can figure out a way to dynamically > determine which type of structur

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guy Maor) wrote on 13.12.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Turbo Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Sorry... I'm using perl, and these functions are not avalible.. *sigh* > > oh, yuck. You're just going to have to rewrite your routines to use > the new structure. I'm su

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-13 Thread Bart Schuller
On Dec 12, Turbo Fredriksson wrote > On 12 Dec 1997, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > > > Just use the libc functions setutent/getutent. They're available in > > both libc5 and glibc2. > > Sorry... I'm using perl, and these functions are not avalible.. *sigh* [...] > *sigh* What can a poor perl proggramme

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-13 Thread Guy Maor
Turbo Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sorry... I'm using perl, and these functions are not avalible.. *sigh* oh, yuck. You're just going to have to rewrite your routines to use the new structure. I'm sure you can figure out a way to dynamically determine which type of structure is bei

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
On 12 Dec 1997, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > Just use the libc functions setutent/getutent. They're available in > both libc5 and glibc2. Sorry... I'm using perl, and these functions are not avalible.. *sigh* > If you're never writing/reading the files > directly (opening them), you don't have proble

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Andreas Jaeger
> Scott Ellis writes: Scott> On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: >> On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Scott Ellis wrote: >> [...] >> How do I know which type of utmp/wtmp I'm currently using, my package >> 'TCPQuota' is using utmp to find out the users online... That is, when >> (exactly) did the

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Scott Ellis wrote: > The change in utmp was made when libc6 was released. If your program is > libc6, the libc6 utmp/wtmp functions should be used at all times. I'm using perl, reading the utmp 'raw'... (using unpack(), if that's familiar)... Is it 'login' (etc) one should l

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Scott Ellis
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Scott Ellis wrote: > > > Corruption of utmp/wtmp is a MINOR PROBLEM. Many people don't care if the > > file is corrupted, they just want to use some libc6 stuff without being > > forced completely into libc6. > > How do I kn

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Scott Ellis wrote: > Corruption of utmp/wtmp is a MINOR PROBLEM. Many people don't care if the > file is corrupted, they just want to use some libc6 stuff without being > forced completely into libc6. How do I know which type of utmp/wtmp I'm currently using, my package 'T

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Scott Ellis
On 11 Dec 1997, Guy Maor wrote: > "Scott K. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'm sick of trying to find a useful workaround for people who just > > want to install a few packages from hamm without upgrading the whole > > thing. > > There isn't one. I assumed you, as libc5-to-libc6 maint

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Scott Ellis
On 12 Dec 1997, Martin Mitchell wrote: > "Scott K. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Still doesn't solve the problem of the hamm libc5 conflicting with > > libc5-dev and the bo libc5 conflicting with libc6. It is a compilation of > > different breakages here. My concern is for people who

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Guy Maor
"Scott K. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm sick of trying to find a useful workaround for people who just > want to install a few packages from hamm without upgrading the whole > thing. There isn't one. I assumed you, as libc5-to-libc6 maintainer, knew that. Yes, it is theoretically pos

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Martin Mitchell
"Scott K. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Still doesn't solve the problem of the hamm libc5 conflicting with > libc5-dev and the bo libc5 conflicting with libc6. It is a compilation of > different breakages here. My concern is for people who still want to do > libc5 development WITH THEIR N

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 12 Dec 1997, Martin Mitchell wrote: > "Scott K. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Huh? The upgrade path is quite clear: install a newer libc5 (5.4.33-7) > > > from hamm, then you may install libc6. > > > > The solution isn't quite so simple. The libc5 from hamm DEPENDS ON libc6. > >

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Martin Mitchell
"Scott K. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Huh? The upgrade path is quite clear: install a newer libc5 (5.4.33-7) > > from hamm, then you may install libc6. > > The solution isn't quite so simple. The libc5 from hamm DEPENDS ON libc6. > There is a definate problem here. You install both h

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 12 Dec 1997, Martin Mitchell wrote: > Chris Fearnley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > debian/bo/binary-i386/base/libc5_5.4.33-6.deb conflicts with libc6 > > making it IMPOSSIBLE to upgrade!! I had to downgrade to > > libc5_5.4.33-3.deb from a LSL CD (thank goodness this bug is not > > shippe