[follow-ups should probably go to -project; this issue is non-technical]
Hi Andreas,
Thank you for your prompt follow-up.
At 2025-05-08T10:14:57+0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Am Thu, May 08, 2025 at 02:54:47AM -0500 schrieb G. Branden Robinson:
> > At 2025-05-08T09:07:48+0200, Andr
date disclose which powers of the office they categorically refuse
to exercise.
Regards,
Branden
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helping us to have
AWK scripts that don't exercise extensions to POSIX. (But maybe the
newer original-awk that supports CSV data--a non-POSIX extension--fixes
that.)
I wonder if it'd be less effort to _review_ what AWK scripts we have
in maintainer scripts for satisfiability by any POSIX-c
Hi Josh (it's been a long time since XFree86 packaging days!),
At 2025-04-21T01:42:52+0100, Josh Triplett wrote:
> G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > "You must not tag any packages essential before this has been
> > discussed on the debian-devel mailing list and a consensus
Hi Adrian,
At 2025-04-21T01:34:56+0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 04:46:52PM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > Factual statements about one's run-time dependencies should be as
> > decoupled from the details of the set of "Essential" packages a
bly wouldn't
work well, and we should update the Policy Manual to require discussion
of the dropping of such a "tag" as well.
...for which achievement of the goal you propose is a prerequisite.
One of the current Policy Manual editors might opine.
Regards,
Branden
[1] https://peps.
for obtaining process or user session
information, the different development organizations, with their
divergent kernels, changed what ever they needed to in the kernel to
achieve other objectives, like implementing virtual memory with demand
paging, or supporting symmetric multiprocessing.
Regards,
Branden
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courage developers to explore and experiment with
workflows (within the boundaries of their responsibilities). It's not
necessary for each individual to focus on the search for the One
Workflow To Rule Them All; if such a thing exists, I think it will
reveal itself organically through converging preferences. Labor-saving
devices are attractors in this chaotic space.
Regards,
Branden
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m personally. Debian Developers are
a diverse bunch and approach packaging with a variety of techniques.
Not everyone will work exactly as another does; we shouldn't expect
that. In high-dimensional spaces, a global optimum often doesn't exist.
Regards,
Branden
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wish
> > I had read them before.
>
> Mmm. They sat private access only for ten years,
Why?
> but when I joined the FTP team I worked to get them published.
Thank you!
Regards,
Branden
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I think delegation is an entirely appropriate mechanism for achieving
non-involvement given the parameters our constitution puts on
delegation. See §8.2:
"The Delegates are appointed by the Project Leader and may be replaced
by the Leader at the Leader's discretion. The Project Lead
ases are often unconscious, whereas conflicts of interest are always
known to the person who has them.
Regards,
Branden
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ething you didn't
> bother write ?
Also, this is the wrong list for the topic. To -project with this.
And yes, it would be courteous to write the thing in meatspace.
Regards,
Branden
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.
I'd point out that "debian/main" also refers to the part of the Debian
package archive that is not "contrib" or "non-free".
I therefore perceive "debian/main" as ambiguous.
Regards,
Branden
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Hi Jonathan,
At 2025-01-15T22:01:28+, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Wed Jan 15, 2025 at 9:42 PM GMT, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > As someone who has a bit of a preoccupation with man pages
>
> You've reminded me that you presented 'Write the Fine Manual' i
At 2025-01-15T14:09:03-0700, Sam Hartman wrote:
> >>>>> "G" == G Branden Robinson writes:
> G> Don't we have dpkg filters for this sort of use case?
>
> I honestly can't tell from your message which position you are
> supporting, which I
set of "profiles" for common applications, like
localization file stripping?[1]
Elimination of those and man pages have been considered low-hanging
fruit by producers of "minimal" variants of Debian for about as long as
there have been such things _as_ variants of Debian.
Regar
/"rule-based"/"legalistic" one.
I need an anthropologist to teach me how to sort out the parameters of
this struggle. Does Biella Coleman have a Ph.D. student who needs a
thesis topic?
Regards,
Branden
[1] https://www.debian.org/vote/2007/vote_003
[2] https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/8
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e tests. As a result, I'm attaching a shell script. It
>
> A kind soul reminded me of actually attaching something.
Happens to me (almost) every time...
Regards,
Branden
[1] I tried to trace this quote; the best I can do is to observe that it
was popularized by Michael Crichton in a
ch that there are no non-ugly solutions apart from "just
stick to ASCII", which some people find ugly in a different way.
Apologies if I missed someone bringing up and rejecting Punycode in the
previous ~41 messages in this thread. I rescanned, using my fallible
human eyeballs. It would be helpful to me if lists.debian.org supported
a search feature.
Regards,
Branden
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he DEC PDP-11 and
VAX-11 series of computers. It's of a piece with the 640kB RAM limit
afflicting the IBM PC architecture.
In other words, nonsense that should be discarded with great force at
the first opporunity, which arrived decades ago.
Regards,
Branden
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y better
resemble a long session in a sensory deprivation tank. Most comm majors
seem to think they're writing for the J. Peterman catalog.
As is often the case in matters of style, William Strunk and George
Orwell knew whereof they spoke.
Regards,
Branden
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ious.
> Those models should have been trained on different tones, as long as
> we instruct it to use them.
Has it got sliders for "Hunter S. Thompson" or "Christopher Hitchens"?
;-)
Regards,
Branden
[1] or reader/writer, in which case the "negotiation" is mo
his experiment, did anyone notice how deadly dull the prose
style is? It's like the LLM had been trained solely on corporate press
releases.
I miss the Joeys.
Regards,
Branden
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rom at any speed, and seems determined to hang on to like grim death.
...which makes sense since what they're clinging to is a corpse.
So how about openoffice-httpd?
Regards,
Branden
FoobarOn Wed, Oct 9, 2024, 12:43 Ben Hutchings <b...@decadent.org.uk> wrote:On Wed, 2024-10-09 at 10:2
Hi Jonas,
At 2024-09-07T08:37:45+0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting G. Branden Robinson (2024-09-07 05:47:17)
> > On a less sarcastic note, I am taken aback by the fact that this
> > project can have a ~100 message thread proposing a DEP
> >
> > "Enable true
pen"
collaboration tool (cough) should bring the whole initiative to a dead
stop until and unless it's fixed.
It certainly leaves me feeling queasy about having already (lightly)
used salsa for Debian work.
This seppo thanks you for bringing the problem to people's attention,
Ceppo.
Regards,
Branden
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ar in two different paths is a higher priority than
> keeping systems working.
"Move fast and break as much stuff as possible, or Debian will be doomed
to irrelevance. I'll be SABDFL someday!"
The creed of the _impactful_ developer.
Regards,
Branden
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when adopting a release of new software.
Possibly I should be making that association with someone else, though.
Regards,
Branden
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ject that way. But I think
that procedure serves an audience that is distinguishable in some ways.
Regards,
Branden
[1]
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/groff.git/commit/?id=822fef56e9ab7cbe69337b045f6f20e32e25f566
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for packages in NEW queue, and there is probably no automation in
> place to flag subsequent copyright changes for re-review?
That was my understanding 20 years ago; I can't competently speak to the
status quo.
Regards,
Branden
[1]
https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-ma
uot;, but "often" seems fair enough; it's true
of groff.
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/groff.git/tree/INSTALL.REPO?h=1.23.0#n15
Regards,
Branden
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package libghc-pandoc-dev
tag 1053777 + fixed-upstream
thanks
Hi Jonas!
At 2024-01-31T08:43:18+0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting G. Branden Robinson (2024-01-31 05:49:00)
> > Well, the version of pandoc that resolved the issue was 3.1.7,
> > released in August 2023.[1] But
ill catch
up at some point soon. Those warnings from groff can arise under other
circumstances, and they do mean that a font change requested by the
document has not been honored,[3] so I do not recommend masking them in
general.
Regards,
Branden
[1] https://pandoc.org/releases.html
[2] https://tracker.deb
nstream
distributions might not make the same choice. For instance, Ubuntu's
own decision makers may have greater sympathy with the attitudes of the
"Masters of the Universe", for reasons obvious and less so.
But when the security wheels fall off the cart of an important
statical
tive correlation with one's
status as an administrator of a centralized repository, such that only
the last link in the chain of custody is considered important. With
that threat model, there's no need to compromise any packager's or
uploader's key; you conduct an injec
e/PROBLEMS?h=1.23.0#n82
I also shifted the line address a little to make it more obvious how old
this issue really is.
Regards,
Branden
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At 2023-10-23T11:17:07-0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> Would someone be willing to send me a subscriber-sponsored link to it?
Thanks to the three fleet-fingered folks who supplied me with one. I am
amply equipped to resume my crusade against ignorance and
misinformation...except...
Now t
sue, which quietly died
down a week ago, and should therefore have aged out of the current
window of "weekly" news.
Regards,
Branden
[1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2023-07/msg1.html
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to arise from cargo-cult practices, start behaving
differently, or stop behaving at all.
Regards,
Branden
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he -devel list even after several
hours; I suppose it was blocked due to my inclusion of a PDF attachment.
Those who are curious about the issue can read it at
<https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1041731#138>.
Regards,
Branden
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Hi Russ,
At 2023-10-15T12:06:14-0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Minor point, but since you posted it
No worries!
> "G. Branden Robinson" writes:
>
> > ...
>
> > \- Minus sign or basic Latin hyphen‐minus. \- produces the
> > Uni
and I'd prefer not to see additional cargo cult
techniques piled on top of it.
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/groff.git/tree/PROBLEMS?h=1.23.0#n82
Regards,
Branden
[1] Just like the omission of bounds checks on array types. What a
brilliant efficiency that was. Jean Ichbiah saw
2C6 (modifier letter circumflex accent) or
similar.
\(rs Reverse solidus (backslash). The backslash is the default
escape character in the roff language, so it does not
represent itself in output. Also see \e above.
\(ti Basic Latin tilde. Some output devices format “~” as U+02DC
(small tilde) or similar.
> Hope that's helpful.
I hope this message goes some way toward relieving your frustration.
Regards,
Branden
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79), this is a bigger challenge to achieve with HTML than
you might suppose. If you want only a rough approximation thereof, my
guess is that there are many straightforward and valid approaches one
could take. The challenge would then be in persuading others to adopt
your one obviously optimal soluti
X's license list and the (plain text) tagging convention
that has grown up around it is of great value, and not at all
incompatible with Debian's documentary conventions.
Regards,
Branden
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risk as long as people continue to follow
packaging practices that Debian has applied with little objection from
our upstreams for 25+ years.[2]
> So while auto-generating this would probably create compliant binary
> packages, it would leave the source package without the licens
p--with respect to particular
infringements. This is a U.S.-centric observation, but so is the music
publishing rights industry--never diverse, but a tall oligopoly today.
> (Although I guess we could now add a complete set of Tom Lehrer!)
Thank you for bringing this unalloyed happy news to the thread. :)
Regards,
Branden
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in solidarity with striking garbage workers.
At 2023-08-18T21:09:11+, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> As the person who raised this on debian-project in November 2022 - see
> the archives for debian-project for November/December 2022
[...]
> There was unfortunately no consensus on remo
At 2023-08-17T01:37:52+0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 07:08:18PM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > [6] https://man.cx/grog
> >
> > I was going to link to
> > https://manpages.debian.org/unstable/groff/grof.1.en.html here, but
>
is message, I see that Colin covered this
point.[4]
I would also note that you can use the grog(1) command (new and improved
in groff 1.23.0![5]) to help you figure out which preprocessors (and
macro package) a *roff document needs.[6]
Let me know if this helps, or does not.
Regards,
Branden
[
to begin with `.TE` and the page author didn't
realize that *roff would attempt to interpret that as a macro call).
I tried to cover these bases in the diagnostic, but might have failed.
Can you tell me what part of the message was confusing?
Regards,
Branden
[1] Any *roff can handle this
At 2023-07-21T13:43:05+0200, IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU) wrote:
> On 7/21/23 12:57, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > But I see no mechanism for interacting with autopkgtests to force
> > them to re-run due to the remedy of a defect in the test harne
to be done? Should some automated mechanism for achieving
this be added, and if so, where?
Regards,
Branden
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g dies of x86-{32,64} cores.
You can laugh at my optimism now.
Regards,
Branden
[1] Not all. I hope there will still be m68k machines humming away.
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tice
they need to test things before deployment.
And there are reasons we might not anticipate today.[2]
Regards,
Branden
[1] Running nroff and troff on an emulated PDP-11/45 running Version 7
Unix, to resolve compatibility defects in groff and settle arguments
about "authentic" U
ls,
arising necessarily from practical experimentation rather than pure
cogitation, made the nature of the problems here clearly comprehensible
to me. And if I was befogged, I'll wager other people were too.
Regards,
Branden
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ner, like we are trying to in
> Fedora.
Debian has little fear of sweeping transitions, but it does like them to
be precisely defined in scope, and easily measured in adoption. The
addition of a versioned contour flag to "DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS" or
similar[3] is straightforward to measure by
ations, frustrated Oracle's aims, or whether
this deliberately anemic interpretation of the GPL was a perfomative
weakening of copyleft to little or no commercial advantage.
https://lwn.net/Articles/432012/
Regards,
Branden
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dpm-based repository. I was working in a big hurry, trying to
make the Bullseye release but that is now looking hopeless.
Thanks for responding so swiftly to my plea for help.
Regards,
Branden
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s or drop text from man pages that begin to embrace groff 1.23's
new features.
Alex Colomar, the Linux man-pages maintainer, is eager to adopt the new
man(7) MR macro ASAP, so that's 2,500 man pages, many commonly used,
that will be undergoing a transition in the next few months,
(git log -r HEAD~21..HEAD).
commit 3cff7c6967e89d187efb160ce7d2a09af5ea82aa (HEAD -> master)
Author: G. Branden Robinson
Date: Sat Feb 25 22:53:06 2023 -0600
debian/changelog: Add upstream bug closers.
commit 1fd80f4151713e9f1d3cb52a4b749fa643776908
Author: G. Branden Robinson
Date: Sa
well-known section heading.
Can someone shed some light on these matters?
Please CC me on replies--many years ago I kept up obsessively with
debian-devel traffic, but not any more, I'm sorry to say.
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Branden
...so help me, a _bucket_...
https://www.hactrn.net/sra/vaxen.html
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At 2019-06-01T09:04:39+0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
> Are we then looking more closely at AMD-based machines given that
> those had less problems around speculative attacks?
To borrow a phrase from Christopher Hitchens, this comment gives a
hostage to fortune.
My team at work closely follows (and pa
[You didn't honor my M-F-T so I guess this will continue to go to both
lists.]
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 12:29:29PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I believe your reasoning is faulty, because it is based on incomplete
> >
ot be
recommending as a best practice licensing provisions which are legally void
significant jurisdictions like the United States.)
(Why isn't this in -legal? Followups set.)
[1] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>#1/1
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc/msg/0946381
ow, it is only 314
> > lines of code, 153 of which are lists of FC2 packages, so it doesn't
> > seem likely to share any common ancestry with debootstrap.
>
> I have just been given permission to post the original internal tool
> used at Progeny which rpmstrap is based upon,
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 06:56:56PM +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote:
> Le lundi 29 août 2005 à 11:42 -0500, Branden Robinson / Debian Project
> Leader a écrit :
> > Eh? What exactly did I say?
>
> wiggy: if anyone from d-a is responding to any of the offers
> they're get
you that you're wrong in your assertion.
>
> I've been corrected by Wiggy on IRC too. Although what I said before was
> not invented, I've read part of it in #debian-devel in the mouth of
> Overfiend (Branden)...
Eh? What exactly did I say?
> It looks like the actual proble
een.
In my opinion, DFSG 4 somewhat clumsily lumps together two related but
distinguishable issues -- one is a presentation format for distribution,
the other is a means for the work to identify itself.
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Debian GNU/Linux
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 01:45:52PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le lundi 25 avril 2005 à 01:03 -0500, Branden Robinson / Debian Project
> Leader a écrit :
> > Woody Security Update Challenges and Progress
> > -
> > The ARM
he space for it already allocated.
Just my $0.02
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> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> twofish
Go ahead and file a bug for this one, please -- twofish sees so little
activity that I'm likely t
he buildd admins on
this via IRC, but it is good to give this cleanup procedure broader
exposure.
[1] also available at http://redwald.deadbeast.net/tmp/xfree86-common_postrm_buildd_fix.diff >
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On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 07:13:57PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> Branden Robinson told me that he does changelog editing of past
> revisions continuously for X, for reasons of being able to correctly
> lookup when a certain bug was fixed. Especially typo's in bugnumber for
testing or unstable, please bookmark the
following site:
http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/NEWS.xhtml
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Debian GNU/Linux | human selfishness.
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rt are
intended by this message. It is meant only to advise you as to how to
communicate more harmoniously with people involved with the Debian Project.
Thank you for your patience with this form letter, for your respect for the
Debian Project's mailing list conventions, and for your partici
er all, if I can't persuade the users of those MUAs that honoring
people's wishes is a good idea, I don't suspect I'll make much more headway
with anyone else.
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Debian GNU/Linux | If ignorance
On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 10:57:24AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Branden Robinson
>
> | On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 12:06:36PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> | > environment variables, at least, are trivial to accomplish using the
> | > pam_env module. Properly setting a
al
mail. If you can discuss this subject without indulging yourself in
straw-man attacks like this, please follow-up with a more reasonable
message.
And, by the way:
X-No-CC: I subscribe to this list; do not CC me on replies.
Please get an MUA that respects Mail-Copies-To:.
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erson?
I somehow suspect that umasks predate environment variables in the misty
early history of Unix, else the umask would've been made one.
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Debian GNU/Linux | genocidal book ever written.
[E
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 12:14:58AM +0200, Tomas Fasth wrote:
> Branden Robinson wrote:
> >/etc/login.defs explicitly indicates that it is "Configuration
> >control definitions for the login package", and many of its
> >parameters are inapplicable to display manager
umask is not an environment
variable.)
* What's the path of least resistance?
* What would violate user expectations the least?
* What would be a good ideal approach, if code changes weren't an issue?
--
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Debia
/Articles/97469/
[2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=265546
[3] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=270060
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Debian GNU/Linux | wrong, die.
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t; for other existing knowledge bases.
Enrico,
Casting "Eray Summoning IX" is prohibited in Debian and is a bannable
offense. :-P
Quick, everyone, scoot your feet across his thaumaturgic circle before he
finishes his spell...
--
G. Branden Robinson| Never underestima
, why aren't the assistant release managers mentioned on Debian's
organization page?
[1]
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200308/msg00010.html
[2] http://www.debian.org/intro/organization
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 04:31:42AM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:12:21AM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
>
> > I think you trimmed away content that was crucial for understanding the
> > par
s liked licking the creamy center out of oreads before ingesting
the crunchy carapace.
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t we (the U.S.) didn't even *have*
federal currency until the 20th century.
Historical revisionism has never been more successfully practiced than
by Christians and capitalists in the United States during the 20th
century.
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ong with many others are looking forward to seeing John Ashcroft being
> kicked out.
/me rises from the pew and says "Amen!"
See? I can be religious.
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Debian GNU/Linux | readi
and stop trolling now?
Oh, is *that* who Tom Ballard is? I'd heard about this guy.
Stuff is starting to fall into place now.
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Bah, but you probably did that on purpose, invoking the Deliberate
Invocation Corollary.
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[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:33:48PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:24:04AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> | > Demons are evil,
> |
> | Demons don't exist. Consequently, their moral value is undefinable.
t. You only believe it.
You've rejected both inductive and deductive arguments, so I think it's
clear that you will accept no path to the stated conclusion.
You're welcome to your dogmatism, but don't be surprised if no one else
cares to share it.
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better Christian
than those who object to my proposed naming scheme! Tee-hee.
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http://people.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 09:31:17AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> Somehow, I don't think Branden will mind being told his dislike of
> "parochial religious fundamentalists" is showing. I suspect he'd be proud
> of it. But you'll see for yourself, soon enough.
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On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:17:03AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:31:53AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 05:23:39PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:12:56PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > > Because
´t have expected that getting polemic is a necessary to
> become DPL... :-//
Yeah; thankfully we don't have to put up with that sort of thing since
Branden Robinson wasn't elected DPL[1].
[1] If you need this sentence explained to you, please email me
privately. :)
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G. Bran
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:08:44AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 11:54:09AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> >
> > No, it's probably antipathy for the Free Software Foundation driving
> > this more than anything else.
> >
&g
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:12:21AM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I think you didn't bother to read any of the parts of my message that
> > you didn't quote.
>
> I did. But I trimmed away those that were
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