At 2024-09-06T16:30:44+0000, Ceppo wrote: > I see that Salsa requires reCAPTCHA resolution to sign up, and it also > embeds reCAPTCHA code in most or all pages - or at least so it looks > to me as an absolute Javascript ignorant. > > I feel it's a contradiction that Debian relies on a non-free service, > and especially that its forge is dedicated to DFSG-compliant software > but forces its users to use a third-party, non-DFSG-compliant service > to sign up and to connect to it whenever they load a page. > > I know reCAPTCHA is built-in in GitLab, but is there any specific > reason for the choice of using it, ease apart?
At 2024-09-06T11:47:23-0500, Piper McCorkle wrote: > There are also Free software CAPTCHA solutions available that we may > be able to use if we want to keep CAPTCHAs on Salsa, e.g. [mCaptcha]. > I strongly agree that we shouldn't be requiring running non-Free > software to use any Debian development tools. Are you sure this is a helpful thing to point out when we're on the verge of, at long last, officially embracing and endorsing the _only_ means of _true_ collaboration in the Debian Project that has ever or will ever exist? And without which Debian will surely fade instantly into total irrelevance? ... On a less sarcastic note, I am taken aback by the fact that this project can have a ~100 message thread proposing a DEP "Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages" without either the proponents or the detractors finding the blatant thumb on the scale in the proposal's very _title_ a cause for embarrassment. Do so many DDs and DMs now work for Canonical, Microsoft, and similar companies that they find nothing remarkable in such blatant boosterism and Kool-Aid swilling? Does it look so similar to yet another mandate from the C-suite landing in the Outlook inbox that it flies past us? Billionaire entrepreneurs and CEOs are not good guys, folks. Nor are those seeking to become them. Good grief, a non-FLOSS apparatus of access to the one "true open" collaboration tool (cough) should bring the whole initiative to a dead stop until and unless it's fixed. It certainly leaves me feeling queasy about having already (lightly) used salsa for Debian work. This seppo thanks you for bringing the problem to people's attention, Ceppo. Regards, Branden
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