On Tue, Dec 24, 2024 at 3:54 AM Michael Tokarev wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> The no-unsafe-io workaround in dpkg was needed for 2005-era ext2fs
> issues, where a power-cut in the middle of filesystem metadata
> operation (which dpkg does a lot) might result in in unconsistent
> filesystem state. This worka
On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 8:01 AM наб wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> We seem to be shipping 3.5 standalone compositors
> (maintainers in CC):
> 1. xcompmgr ‒ the upstream's effectively finished
> (we have 1.1.8, the two releases since changed nothing of
> substance)
> last maintaine
my needs and my
preferences.
(Off-topic, but part of the reason I don't use gbp is the docs for how
to use it are just not enough to actually figure out what you're
doing. Just a documentation revamp or initial tutorial for it would be
awesome. Maybe if I ever relearn it I should help with tha
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 5:49 AM Guillem Jover wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> On Tue, 2024-11-05 at 17:35:59 -0600, Aaron Rainbolt wrote:
> > With all this in mind, I'd like to call some attention to a feature
> > request made by Patrick Schleizer some time ago, whom I've cop
On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:29:07 -0500
"Theodore Ts'o" wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 12:08:22AM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 6, 2024 10:41:46 PM MST Aaron Rainbolt
> > wrote:
> > > Again, this isn't a problem limited to a d
On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 19:53:27 +
Roger Lynn wrote:
> On 06/11/2024 19:20, Bill Allombert wrote:
> > Le Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 05:35:59PM -0600, Aaron Rainbolt a écrit :
> >> Hello, and thanks for your time.
> >>
> >> I've been a Debian user and contrib
On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 21:41:43 -0700
Soren Stoutner wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 6, 2024 8:12:29 PM MST Aaron Rainbolt wrote:
> > At this point, we have two options. We can either explicitly remove
> > all of the extra packages that get installed, or we can skip
> > install
On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 15:59:22 -0700
Soren Stoutner wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 6, 2024 3:06:59 PM MST Aaron Rainbolt wrote:
> > And this brings us back to the original idea of creating a
> > Weak-Depends field. From my viewpoint, policy states that
> > Recommends is f
On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 22:55:43 +
Colin Watson wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 04:06:59PM -0600, Aaron Rainbolt wrote:
> > (Side note, I wonder if there's a way to implement Weak-Depends that
> > *doesn't* require modifying all of the tons of packages Johannes
> &g
On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 14:21:30 -0700
Soren Stoutner wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 6, 2024 12:08:07 PM MST Aaron Rainbolt wrote:
> >For instance, gwenview currently
> > recommends kamera. gwenview is an image viewer, kamera is a tool for
> > working with digital cameras
enview
useless or even substantially degraded from a functionality standpoint
when kamera is missing. It ought to be a Suggests according to Debian
policy, but it's obvious why it ended up being a Recommends because it
does enable additional functionality that doesn't work otherwise.
replies are inline.
On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 02:28:33 +0100
Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Quoting Aaron Rainbolt (2024-11-06 00:35:59)
> > According to the Debian Policy Manual, section 7.2, the Recommends
> > field in Debian packages "declares a strong, but
Hello, and thanks for your time.
I've been a Debian user and contributor for a while, and have noticed a
rather frustrating issue that I'm interested in potentially
contributing code to fix. The issue is what I call "Recommended bloat",
which in short is what happens when you install a package wit
Package: wnpp
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Owner: Aaron Rainbolt
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* Package name : qt6-quickeffectmaker
Version : 6.6.2
Upstream Contact: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers
* URL : https://www.qt.io/developers
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Aaron Rainbolt
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* Package name: picom-conf
Version : 0.17.0
Upstream Contact: redtide
* URL : https://github.com/qtilities/picom-conf
* License : Mixed
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Aaron Rainbolt
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* Package name: sddm-conf
Version : 0.1.0
Upstream Contact: redtide
* URL : https://github.com/qtilities/sddm-conf
* License : MIT (with
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Aaron Rainbolt
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* Package name: qtilitools
Version : 0.1.2
Upstream Contact: redtide
* URL : https://github.com/qtilities/qtilitools
* License : BSD-3
of it) supports both
armhf and arm64 debian packages out of the box (And has support for
these enabled in dpkg).
Greetings
Aaron
Hello Debian Developers!
Not sure if this is the right place to report this, but the package
"nfs-common" still recommends python instead of python3 in bullseye
where only Python 3 is available
Aaron
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I'm not sure about how to add this to the markdown, can you tell me how to do that?
Aaron
Hi Aaron,
On 13-01-2021 22:22, Aaron Dewes wrote:
> The page https://release.debian.org/bullseye/freeze_policy.html
> currently says a stylesheet for the
minor change and you're probably busy with
preparing the bullseye release, but I wanted to share it anyway if you
want to use it in the future.
Cheers,
Aaron
Transition and (build-)essential Freeze Soft Freeze Hard
Freeze Full
Freeze
Date2021-01-12 2021-
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Owner: Aaron Dewes
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* Package name: htmltoxbel
Version : 0.1.0
Upstream Author : Aaron Dewes
* URL : http://gitlab.com/EndorphinBrowser/tools/htmlToXBel
* License
d
upstream hasn't historically showed much interest in supplying them:
https://www.fltk.org/str.php?L2180
However, it looks like they may finally be coming around:
https://github.com/fltk/fltk/issues/22
In general, thanks for weighing in!
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Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Aaron Boxer
* Package name: grok-jpeg2000
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Upstream Author : Aaron Boxer
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Subject: ITP: grok-jpeg2000 -- Grok is an implementation of Part 1 of the
JPEG 2000 standard. It aims for speed and stability. The code i
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 7:45 PM Emmanuel Arias wrote:
> Hi!,
>
> Great I can see. I've not my tools with me (I am on vacation) but, I will
> be happy
> to review on a week the package.
>
Thank You !
On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 7:24 PM Aaron Boxer wrote:
>
>>
On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 10:22 AM Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 05:25:48PM -0400, Aaron Boxer wrote:
> > > > but I get the following error:
> > > >
> > > > dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)
Thanks, Emmanuel. Following the git-buildpackage page, I have created three
new branches
on my repo: debian-branch, upstream-branch and pristine-tar. The debian
folder can be found
in those three branches.
And thanks for the link, I will take a look.
Cheers,
Aaron
On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 10
Hi Fabrice,
Thanks so much for your reply. This makes sense.
I will try git-buildpackage, and I will move the source + debian packaging
to a separate branch.
Best,
Aaron
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 7:28 PM Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY
wrote:
> Hello Aaron,
>
> I'm a newbie in Debian packa
right file.
Would anyone here be interested in helping get this package submitted ?
Thanks!
Aaron
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:21 PM Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 02:05:48PM -0400, Aaron Boxer wrote:
> > > > > > Besides the copyright file, I would like to test building the
> > > package.
> > > > > > What's the be
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:26 PM Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 01:17:29PM -0400, Aaron Boxer wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:00 PM Andrey Rahmatullin
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:49:25PM -0400, Aaron Boxer wrote:
> >
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:00 PM Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:49:25PM -0400, Aaron Boxer wrote:
> > Besides the copyright file, I would like to test building the package.
> > What's the best way of doing this? I am on
> > Ubuntu Eoan. Thanks!
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 2:38 PM Aaron Boxer wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 8:46 AM Sudip Mukherjee <
> sudipm.mukher...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 12:29 PM Aaron Boxer wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks, Sudip! I've made those ch
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 8:46 AM Sudip Mukherjee
wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 12:29 PM Aaron Boxer wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Sudip! I've made those changes, and renamed the library to
> grok-jpeg2000
> >
> > The only thing missing right now is the
Sudip Mukherjee
wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 11:52 PM Aaron Boxer wrote:
> >
> > I've made a first pass at the packaging. If anyone has time to review,
> it would be great:
> >
> > https://github.com/GrokImageCompression/grok/tree/master/debian
>
> Just few th
I've made a first pass at the packaging. If anyone has time to review, it
would be great:
https://github.com/GrokImageCompression/grok/tree/master/debian
Thanks!
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 2:25 PM Aaron Boxer wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 1:42 PM Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
>
>
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 1:42 PM Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 12:56:41PM -0400, Aaron Boxer wrote:
> > Thanks, guys. Another question (first time creating a package): is it
> > possible to unpack
> > the openjpeg .deb and re-use the packaging ?
> No,
Thanks, guys. Another question (first time creating a package): is it
possible to unpack
the openjpeg .deb and re-use the packaging ?
On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 2:41 PM Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 08, 2020 at 02:30:06PM -0400, Aaron Boxer wrote:
> > Hello!
> > I ma
Correction: this is the current package for openjpeg:
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openjpeg2
On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 2:30 PM Aaron Boxer wrote:
> Hello!
> I maintain an image compression library
>
> https://github.com/GrokImageCompression/grok
>
> which is very similar to a
OpenJPEG to do that ?
Thank you!
Aaron Boxer
,
Aaron
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Information Theorist, and amateur computer scientist.
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Great thanks very much everyone I maybe a while ;)
On 20 September 2017 at 14:48, Ian Jackson
wrote:
> Aaron Gray writes ("Re: Debian distro build system"):
> > I basically want to
> >
> > a) be able to build a Debain distro myself such as Jessie for testin
>
> If you can give us some info on what you are actually trying to do
> then we can give you a better answer.
>
I basically want to
a) be able to build a Debain distro myself such as Jessie for testing
purposes
b) be able to make bespoke modifications to this
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machines I can use for the purpose.
Regards,
Aaron
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* Package name: ncbi-entrez-direct
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* License : Public Domain
Programming Lang: Perl, Go, Bo
heartbleed (that also affected commercial VPN products such as
Cisco ASA/PIX and some Juniper devices). IPsec hat to be revised and is
often implemented in a way that defies the standard that has been under
heavy criticism by the cryptography community (e.g.
https://www.schneier.com/paper-ipsec.htm
st I don't understand your first sentence. Second how does a VPN
provide more "security" than say Tor?
Deeply confused,
Aaron
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> But it’s absolutely infuriating when developers of security sensitive
> software are actively thwarting those efforts by using the world’s most
> exploitable allocation policy and then not even testing that one can
> disable it.
Nothing to add here, very well said!
Aaron
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is just unacceptable to most - it's not however - to the people
that design, implement and use such paranoid policy systems: NSA and the
intelligence community in general. I like to think people get rich of
writing policies for those people with no added benefit for security, it
amuses me. Beautiful codebase though.
Aaron
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the Gentoo guys
try it but it seems to be largely unmaintained nowadays. Hence -
currently - the burden falls on security and systems engineers that
deploy systems on a given Linux distribution.
Aaron
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Recently, I decided to put down a Btrfs root on my workstation using the
latest release of the installer. I found that given my hardware
configuration, this is not possible, and would require using another
installer or debootstrap the installation, which is far from ideal.
I have two 250 GB drives
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Owner: Aaron Schrab
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* License : GPL
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Description : email gateway for virus
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 02:46:21PM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
> Is there even a point in having DHCP listening on localhost?
So, why even bother starting it? Thus, the whole point of this thread.
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On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 10:43:00PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> Are you seriously suggesting that DHCP and SSH servers should not listen
> on external interfaces by default? The use case for SSH or DHCPd on
> localhost only is pretty small.
I would much rather have DHCP listening on localhost,
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 04:02:57PM +0300, Serge wrote:
> I'm not experienced in this topic much yet, that's why I'm writing not in
> list, but directly. Feel free to reply into list, if you wish.
I would prefer to keep it on the list for a public archive, and to benefit
the greater admin populatio
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 08:23:20PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Debian goal is - as you probably know already - for packages to work out
> of the box. For daemons this means they are started by default.
>
> If a package (service or not) is insecure by default, it is a bug!
> Severity of suc
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 07:49:03PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> The reason that RedHat don't start things is that their default approach
> has been to install a whole load of stuff that you might possibly want,
> and allow you to enable it when you are inspired to give some new
> service a try.
>
>
I'm trying to dig through the archives to see if this has been discussed,
and I'm only finding random one-off discussions here and there about it.
Nothing concrete. If it has already been discussed in great detail, my
apologies.
By default in Debian, when a service package is installed, such as
op
Package: general
Severity: normal
The kernel panics when it receives a packet on an interface running the r8169
module that is of sufficient size.
To reproduce, have another host on the interface with MTU of 9000 to send a
ICMP ping packet of size 9000, and then the driver will cause a panic. I
Package: hashcash
Version: 1.21-1
According to the documentation, the hashcash binary supports the '-b
bits' switch and argument for calculating a hashcash token of the size
specified. The default size is 20 bits. The '-b' switch argument
supports an exact size, say '-b 40' for minting a 40 bit to
The Sun RPC license that has plaqued this bug, has been re-licensed to
the 3-clause BSD license. This affects glibc and krb5-*, and possibly
other packages.
The change from Sun is documented here:
http://blogs.sun.com/webmink/entry/old_code_and_old_licenses
Tom Callaway of Red Hat blogged about
You can see the details outlined in this blog post by Tom Callaway:
http://spot.livejournal.com/315383.html
Long story short: The Sun RPC license that affects this bug has been
re-licensed to the 3-clause BSD license. Even though Debian is moving to
eglibc, this is still good news. Finally time t
On 06/30/2010 01:18 AM, Giuseppe Iuculano wrote:
> On 06/30/2010 06:15 AM, Aaron Toponce wrote:
>> I just noticed that the chromium-browser package releases in Debian
>> GNU/Linux unstable are synced version-for-version with the google-chrome
>> beta package provided by the 3
I just noticed that the chromium-browser package releases in Debian
GNU/Linux unstable are synced version-for-version with the google-chrome
beta package provided by the 3rd party Google Linux repository. Is this
intentional? What's the rationale behind using the beta releases for
chromium-browser
On 06/29/2010 05:16 AM, Adam Borowski wrote:
> Uhm, and that gets me what? It would nuke all cookies, including those
> which are supposed to last beyond the session.
Touche. I misread your post, and Chromium's ability to do this by
default. Apologies.
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On 06/29/2010 03:57 AM, Adam Borowski wrote:
> [1]. A Chromium extension named "AdBlock" exists, but it merely hides the
> junk after downloading them -- so you merely don't see them while still
> being subjected to slowdown, having your bandwidth stolen, being tracked,
> having advertising scripts
On 06/28/2010 02:34 AM, Mike Hommey wrote:
> The latter also applies for iceape and icedove, and is why 3.5/1.9.1 is
> still considered as the release target: iceape 2.0, icedove 3.0, and
> iceweasel 3.5 are all based on xulrunner/gecko 1.9.1. Security support
> for stable will be easier if there i
Seeing as though upstream Firefox 3.6 released December 1, 2008, and
upstream Thunderbird 3.1 released just a couple days ago, it might be
high time to get xulrunner 1.9.2 into Sid, as both Iceweasel 3.6 and
Icedove 3.1 will depend on it. However, I hear there will be lots of
breakage if xulrunner
On 5/12/2010 1:22 PM, Marcus Better wrote:
> Recently I got the advice [1] to set vm.swappiness to 0, rather than
> the default 60. This improved things dramatically. Apparently Eclipse
> is no longer being swapped out preemptively all the time. The
> difference in perceived responsiveness is spect
On 05/19/2010 03:48 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> See above, or do you wish a larger paper discussing the issues?! ^^
So FUD it is. At least you're consistent.
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On 05/19/2010 03:11 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> Or is that already, the case? At least I've had the impression that
> neither mine, nor the arguments of some other people (Harald, Peter, etc.)
> were even answered here.
You've only mentioned that SSH won't operate if the write bit is set
On 05/19/2010 01:25 PM, James Vega wrote:
> Except /etc/profile won't be sourced again unless "newgrp - " is
> used, right?
Correct, or the user issues a new login shell after the change has been
made.
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On 05/19/2010 01:20 PM, Philipp Kern wrote:
> Sorry, I assumed that UPG is a system-wide concept and that I could just
> change to my collaboration group and have a useful umask there too. So we
> only cater for the setgid flag on directories?
The "newgrp" command changes your default group. The
On 05/19/2010 01:00 PM, Philipp Kern wrote:
> When I do "newgrp " it's still UPG and the umask should still be
> 2, no? This check would change my umask.
If the new default group is named something other than your username,
it's no longe UPG. UPG is only if the user name and group name match,
and
On 05/19/2010 11:25 AM, Santiago Vila wrote:
> For the record: I've changed the umask setting in /etc/profile to this:
>
> if [ "`id -u`" -ge 1000 ]; then
> umask 002
> else
> umask 022
> fi
[snip]
> Some people proposed complex code to determine whether UPG was in use
> for system users. Su
On 05/17/2010 11:46 AM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> If you need to change for example ssh, to allow an authorized_keys file
> or perhaps even things like ~/.ssh/id_rsa to be group-readable and/or
> writable you actively compromise security, at least for those systems
> which do not use (for w
;t doing anything
for the discussion.
> On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 11:04 -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote:
>> If you're using a non-UPG system, then you don't care. Debian is
>> UPG-based, so your argument is invalid.
> You actually, have to care... at least if #581919 is "s
On 05/17/2010 10:49 AM, Harald Braumann wrote:
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:14:28AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote:
>> On 05/17/2010 10:02 AM, Harald Braumann wrote:
>>> - you could have a UPG system but a mismatch of IDs -> wrong umask
>>
>> ID numbers, yes. ID names
On 05/17/2010 10:02 AM, Harald Braumann wrote:
> - you could have a UPG system but a mismatch of IDs -> wrong umask
ID numbers, yes. ID names, no. If the user name maches the group name,
IE: aaron = aaron, then the user matches the private group. If the match
is not made, then umask 0022
On 5/17/2010 7:34 AM, Marvin Renich wrote:
> This looks like a bug in pam_umask. UPG has never guaranteed uid=gid.
> I'll file a bug.
While the numerical ID might not match, the names should:
id -gn should equal id -un
After all, that is part of the definition of the UPG setup.
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On 05/17/2010 07:00 AM, Mike Hommey wrote:
> There is no such thing as Debian's idea of UPG. There is simply the fact
> that when you create a user with UPG, it uses the first uid and the
> first gid available. It can happen that they don't match, in the
> scenario I gave above. This applies to any
On 05/16/2010 05:11 PM, Santiago Vila wrote:
> They have login shells in the sense that their shell field in /etc/passwd
> is /bin/sh, but if they do not really "login" to the system, then they
> do not read /etc/profile.
>
> In either case, if we plan to set default umask in /etc/login.defs or
>
On 05/16/2010 12:39 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Because the further discussion was wrong. System users have login shells
> in Debian. (I consider this a very long-standing bug.)
Then the logic should be in play. System users don't necessarily have a
private group, so their umask should be 0022. If
On 05/15/2010 12:16 AM, Vincent Danjean wrote:
> Somethink is wrong here. Should 314347 be reopened ?
Agreed. It's not working as it should. Running openssh-client version
1:5.5p1-3, and setting the write bit on my private group seems to keep
the client from behaving as expected.
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On 05/15/2010 02:51 PM, Willi Mann wrote:
> Is it possible to detect whether an account is configured properly based on
> the UPG idea? If yes, wouldn't it then make sense to only set umask 002 if a
> proper UPG account is detected, otherwise 022? This would avoid putting non-
> UPG systems on da
On 05/15/2010 10:47 AM, Santiago Vila wrote:
> On Sun, 16 May 2010, Charles Plessy wrote:
>
>> Also, I have not seen on -devel that the idea of having a different
>> umask for system and regular users has been implemented in
>> base-files yet. I propose to not mention this until base-files is
>> u
On 05/15/2010 02:00 AM, Robert Klotzner wrote:
> Also as far as I understood from a previous post, this change will only
> affect
> new installations, not existing ones. So even if a user misunderstood the
> concept and added other users to his private group, this change does not
> affect
> hi
On 05/15/2010 05:50 AM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 13:45 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> This paragraph should be accompanied by something like:
>>
>> Instead of adding users to other users private groups (which has issues as
>> explained above) it is recommend to creat
On 05/15/2010 05:26 AM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 14:16 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>> for regular users
> Would have to double check it,... but doesn't the current change also
> affect root?
This does, but root is also in his own UPG. If you add any user to the
root
On 05/14/2010 06:40 PM, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> Oh, I will not make any more comment to that decision. Maybe I will
> search for a more secure distribution. This decision is much to much.
> And it is the last straw that breaks the camels back. Debian was was my
> favorite distribution for over ten ye
On 5/13/2010 3:48 AM, Santiago Vila wrote:
> Will be done in base-files 5.4.
I just saw the change committed. Thank you very much! This is good news.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=581434#25
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On 5/13/2010 3:34 AM, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On 2010-05-13, Charles Plessy wrote:
>> If no stronger objections against a change from 022 to 002 is raised, would
>> you
>> agree changing base-files so that /etc/profile uses 002 on new systems?
>
> Doesn't that lead to "great fun" if you activate N
On 05/11/2010 07:09 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Aaron already explained this, but I was confused for quite some time about
> the point of UPG and I'm not sure I would have gotten it from his
> explanation, so let me say basically the same thing he said in different
> words.
>
On 5/10/2010 4:46 PM, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> You can never trust anybody for giving him rights to _all_ of your
> files. So this assuming is never true and a user will not have any
> benefit of this group if the umask is 002!
I trust my wife to all of my files.
>> If you don't trust users in your
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