Re: Building multiple flavors of a package with a HUGE upstream

ng was 20 years ago. Glad to hear that things have become simpler. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."

Re: Building multiple flavors of a package with a HUGE upstream

the current results I can work for the time being. I might simplify the packaging at some future time (build profiles might actually help here, making the debian/rules way simpler than the one that comes with the kernel). Thank you all for trying to help. Greetings Marc -- ---

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

ase. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421

Re: Building multiple flavors of a package with a HUGE upstream

On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 02:17:50PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: Marc Haber wrote: I would like to build differnt "flavors", lets call them linux-server, linux-vm, linux-desktop and linux-notebook. But I'd like to have them from - at least - the same .orig.tar.gz, just for the r

Building multiple flavors of a package with a HUGE upstream

dpkg's "new" feature of having source packages with more than one orig.tar.gz work here? Any ideas? Greetings from (still) Brest Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They |

Re: Personal note on recent discussions (Was: Can the community team remove packages or kick me out for not removing packages?)

farts need to accept that the world has changed and the project has changed and that things that used to be okay 20, maybe even 10 years ago are not ok any more. Love it or leave it. Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber

Re: Static compiled packages option for apt

bution. I'd recommend doing that in a totally new project and leave Debian alone. Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beg

Re: New contributor experience

On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 02:29:05PM +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: Am 18. Juni 2025 12:35:04 MESZ schrieb Marc Haber : On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 13:42:18 -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote: I am not sure whether just pushing my fixed code to the branch that I submitted an MR for will automatically

Re: New contributor experience

r two decades, but handling MRs in Salsa is - from both sides of the story - still byzantine to me -- -------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisd

Re: New contributor experience

in >Mutt, and I am not asking you to change it. Many of the suggestions in such threads are like "let's replace the BTS with foo". Greetings Marc -- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402

Re: New contributor experience

four people just right out of school resign in their first month because those people were expected to also maintian older code that doesn't use the latest frameworks. This behavior/attitute is obviously very common in younger people. Greetings Marc -- ---

Re: Implementing feature requests for a package when a maintainer doesn't respond

out Debian on the Raspberry Pi! Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG &quo

Re: New contributor experience

advanced usage. You don't need that. Greetings Marc -- -------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402

Re: New contributor experience

ally bad host. Greetings Marc -- -------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402

Re: New contributor experience

at we offer: looking for a sponsor. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 160040

Re: New contributor experience

bies), and optionally to a list of RC bugs tagged help (with the warning "not for the faint of the heart"). Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Hea

Re: New contributor experience

Brest, hoping that the online interaction will be less annoying when I know the person beind those messages -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany

Re: New contributor experience

On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 08:32:49AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Marc Haber writes: Do you seriously think that people who can't be bothered with finding an IRC Client, pointing it to a server and joining a channel can be bothered with Debian's other peculiariaties? Yes? I refuse

Re: New contributor experience

r distributions do? Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordis

Re: New contributor experience

at have an RFH Bug in WNPP. Could it be the case that we're talking about different things? Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany|

Re: New contributor experience

them away. Reasons: See above. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402

Re: New contributor experience

nce. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421

Re: New contributor experience

else is doing this particular work ;-) Greetings Marc ¹ I want u-boot! -- -------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordi

Re: emails from nore...@salsa.debian.org to bugs.debian.org

unce. Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402

Re: New contributor experience

ely care about and makes it hard to watch my merge requests. It's just too big. Can I have salsa somehow show me all repositories that I have ever committed to? Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Quest

Re: Question regarding Trixie and SFML

Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 10:27:09AM +0100, Sean Whitton wrote: On Wed 28 May 2025 at 10:04pm +02, Marc Haber wrote: My personal pet peeve is the difference between the source package and the packaging git repository contents. Those two especially differ in the state of patches: They're ap

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

right? Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to ma

Re: patches-applied and patches-unapplied, dgit and source packages (was: Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git)

might be unnecessary to know in five years, in 2025 it is still a must-know and must-not-be-confused. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Ger

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

Hi, On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 05:26:31AM +0200, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 10:04:01PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: My personal pet peeve is the difference between the source package and the packaging git repository contents. Those two especially differ in the state of

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

have anything to say anyway. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 N

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

n. Thank you very much, and I hope that you can make good use of my feedback. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."

Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?

th systemd units that use security. Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf,

Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?

TH, HAND. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421

Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?

ian's fault. -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402

Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?

On Fri, 23 May 2025 10:00:22 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 10:59:47AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Fri, 23 May 2025 08:57:36 +0100, "Jonathan Dowland" >> wrote: >> >Red Hat have transitioned almost entirely to JIRA. >> >&g

Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?

transitioned almost entirely to JIRA. Thankfully that's not an option for us (not dfsg free). Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginn

Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?

ving said that I'll shut up to avoid friendly advice from the community team. I mentioned Discourse because that was the topic of the last discussion of this kind we had a few years ago. Greetings Marc -- -----

Re: Exploring forgejo as alternative to salsa ? (Was Re: Private code: to forge, or not to forge?)

eetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402

Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?

tings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421

Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?

, when our data is in another "existing" solution? Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona

Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?

e feeling of a mailing list". That is so utterly false... Listen. You're entitled to suggest new tools. I am entitled to say that the tools we have are just fine. That's the way it is. Greetings Marc -- Mar

Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?

ould like to keep the BTS with its opportunity to pull up a complicated bug report in my mail client WITH FULL THREADING. Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header

Re: Dropping awk?

gt;for that package or as a system-wide default." > >I think this is still the best practice, even if underdocumented. adduser will support this behavior in forky, should it not be thrown out earlier. Greetings Marc -- --

Re: Is there any planned official Debian 12 Bookworm support for Raspberry Pi 5?

an 12 are nearly zero. Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference (Was: ITN procedure?)

pted if it were called >"Debian.source.conf" or something neutral like that. Debian/source/branches Grüße Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Nec

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

adduser in the last two years whose work could have made more impact in other parts of Debian. So, it's not only my work going down the drain, but theirs as well. Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Qu

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 14:20:45 +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: >On 28.04.25 12:56, Marc Haber wrote: >> Could somebody with an LWN subscription share a friends link? > >Subscriptions to LWN are free for DDs, somebody (HP IIRC) sponsors them. Yes, but it is suggested that the resour

Re: In the shadows (Was: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?)

On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 13:50:19 +0200, Daniel Gröber wrote: >Hi Marc, > >On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 12:31:24PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >> I was just told off-the-records that [...] > >Consider the motives of those staying out of the public limelight. > >Does consensus need

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 10:59:30 - (UTC), Sune Vuorela wrote: >On 2025-04-28, Marc Haber wrote: >> The technical reasoning was sound (persistent /etc/passwd is going >> away, so packages who need their uid better declare it via sysusers so >> that it is recreated automat

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

that and would like to thank the people contributing the code. Sad that it will live for like a fifth of the time the bug was open. Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadr

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

ings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 10:36:54 +, Holger Levsen wrote: >On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 12:31:24PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >> Not that I know of. I was just told off-the-records that it does not >> make sense to spend any more time on adduser since it's going to be >> forbi

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 11:34:18 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: >Am Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 11:02:13AM +0200 schrieb Marc Haber: >> That's my biggest gripe about Debian. It strongly influences the only >> voice I have in that regard, the DPL vote. > >... speaking as DPL I wa

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 09:57:23 +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: >* Marc Haber [250428 08:52]: >>This is one more example of Debian lacking technical leadership, with >>small groups taking technical decisions for the entire distribution >>without even mentioning. > >Yeah

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 10:46:39 +0200, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote: >Quoting Marc Haber (2025-04-28 08:39:17) >> I am saying that adduser was written in a time when useradd had about >> a fifth of its current features, and that the local admin can use >> useradd to

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

people deciding in the secret that Debian will stop using /etc/passwd are forbidding adduser. Using adduser will be an RC bug. Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im He

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:04:25 -0300, Antonio Terceiro wrote: >On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 02:18:11PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >> That leaves no space for adduser between useradd and sysusers. At >> least not enouch space to waste any more life time on it. > >From how you write,

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

own adduser, which is totally independent (and also totally incompatible), so I'd advise all other programs which should be useful outside the Debian ecosystem to not invoke adduser but to resort to standardized tools. Greetings Marc -- --

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

le /usr and empty /etc. Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 15:08:18 +0200, "Andrea Pappacoda" wrote: >On Sun Apr 27, 2025 at 2:18 PM CEST, Marc Haber wrote: >> Useradd has grown most of that functionality in the last two decades. >> That leaves no space for adduser between useradd and sysusers. At >>

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

d sysusers. At least not enouch space to waste any more life time on it. Greetings Marc -- -------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom "

Re: Explicitly depending on Essential packages (was: Dropping awk?)

k, grep, sed and sort - that's >dependencies on four essential packages". I'd rather do that than having to spend hours updating year numbers in machine readable debian/copyright. Greetings Marc -- Marc Habe

Re: Documentation for Package Maintainers regarding Translations (was: General Questions about Translations and what a package maintainer has to do)

On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 06:32:54PM +, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: Am Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 09:44:47AM +0100 schrieb Marc Haber: tl;dr: New Wiki Page https://wiki.debian.org/I18n/ForPackageMaintainers, please review I just did it. I usually updated it right away, but at one or two points it is

Re: Help with Dillo package (attempt 2)

nities to stop it by committing to >actively maintain it themselves. Also, please note that Debian is going to freeze for the next stable release in ten days. It is unlikely that the new Dillo package will be in that release. Greetings Marc -- ---

Re: utmp in trixie

le flat since there seems to be no actual reason to not just support >both mechanisms. Can your package handle the classic on-disk format when it is compiled with 64 bit time_t? I remember there was some discussion about that back then. Greetings Marc -- ---

Re: General Questions about Translations and what a package maintainer has to do

On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 21:26:05 +, Bill Allombert wrote: >Le Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 12:03:51PM +0100, Marc Haber a écrit : >> tl;dr: We need more docs about best practices to handle translations as >> a package maintainer > >I would suggest you find someone on debian-i

Re: Documentation for Package Maintainers regarding Translations (was: General Questions about Translations and what a package maintainer has to do)

On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 06:33:19PM +, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: Am Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 05:49:40PM +0100 schrieb Marc Haber: "Using no line numbers" => invoke msgmerge with --no-location? Yes. "Web pages mentioned above" => I don't see web pages being me

Re: General Questions about Translations and what a package maintainer has to do

age Maintainer, unless it is fully automated and can be documented and packaged. Greetings Marc -- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402

Re: The apt tool chain doesn't seem to sanitize it's environment

y when invoked? In the mean time, I have added code to adduser to unset $ENV{CDPATH}. Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginnin

Re: Should uncoordinated NMUs unilaterally choose Salsa as the VCS for a package?

ically want the >collaboration to be done without using version control? A NMU is something else than co-maintenance. A NMU is by defintition minimal invasive. I think that is documented somewhere. Greetings Marc -- ---- Ma

Re: General Questions about Translations and what a package maintainer has to do

On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 09:06:35PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: xgettext comes with a ton of options to help you. Have a look at the diff I've attached for what I've been able to do. Will do and take your suggestions. But it is still a wrapper needed. I have put this into the adduser w

Re: General Questions about Translations and what a package maintainer has to do

Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402

Documentation for Package Maintainers regarding Translations (was: General Questions about Translations and what a package maintainer has to do)

tl;dr: New Wiki Page https://wiki.debian.org/I18n/ForPackageMaintainers, please review Hi, On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 12:03:51PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: Whenever I am angry about something in Debian, I start writing docs. So I try this here, but here I don't know enough to be really helpf

Re: General Questions about Translations and what a package maintainer has to do

is a page that I can change. If you don't want to deal with translation stuff, I'm happy to help with that aspect, and if you'd like you can offload that on me. Thank you for that offer. I need to understand things to be comfortable with tem. I think I am on a good way. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421

Re: General Questions about Translations and what a package maintainer has to do

On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 11:36:27AM +0100, Julien Plissonneau Duquène wrote: Le 2025-03-11 12:03, Marc Haber a écrit : (2) There is some point in the development process when it is time to ask for translations. Translators need a POT file which contains all the translatable strings, and they

Re: General Questions about Translations and what a package maintainer has to do

to remove(!) locations on checkout and restore them from the pot file on commit, that solves the majority of conflicts. How would that look like? git filters are a mystery for those wizards. Greetings Marc -- -

Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades

reetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402

Re: General Questions about Translations and what a package maintainer has to do

ian source. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature |

Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades

at might happen. Rest assured that package maintainers already try to avoid situations like that to the best of their knowledge. Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

ed. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421

General Questions about Translations and what a package maintainer has to do

m inclined to put on https://wiki.debian.org/I18n a dedicated chapter titled "for package maintainers", probably between "Keyboard input infrastructure support" and "Meetings" as this is a matter beyond interna of the translation teams and the i18n effort. Am I

Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion

tl;dr: The situation is totally different, we should not compare apples and peaches here. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose

Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion

On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 11:56:28 +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: >Marc Haber writes: >> I still haven't heard arguments why people refuse to use an installer >> that comes with non-free firmware, asks whether this firmware should >> be used, and if answered "no", no

Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion

n >within the Debian project, which is my perception of the vote outcome. There are not concerns about spending time. There are no people willing to do so. Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions

Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion

ware ends up in the installed system. The resulting system is free regardless whether there was non-free firmware on the installation images. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Comput

Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion

s Debian to run on the hardware people have - it saves me time to explain why Debian doesn't run. -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose

Re: STFU please (Re: Bits from DPL)

On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 08:39:13AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 08:58:48AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: Marc. I'll take my Popcorn with salt please. yeah, it's pretty funny to see a team burn out and have the same silly & salty discussion about this again

Re: Bits from DPL

ublic attention. Greetings Marc. I'll take my Popcorn with salt please. -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryd

Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades

On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 10:12:05PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: On 05.03.25 21:35, Marc Haber wrote: And which of the millions of changes would that be that would break YOUR system? The number of changes that can adversely impact your ability to boot *or* your network connectivity (but

Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades

? -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421

Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades

-- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421

Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades

|_| \_| > >Network interface name changed: please update config files before reboot. Why would people who do not read the NEWS.Debian or the Release Notes read that? And how would you solve the issue of people wanting more and more of those attention banners? Greetings Marc --

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

loads. I think that most teams would be eager to help to remove you from "Uploaders" in git, getting active with the next upload. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

t might change if they get mail. Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 19:15:16 +0800, Blair Noctis wrote: >On 03/03/2025 01:40, Marc Haber wrote: >> Maintainer: Debian Adduser Developers >> Maintainer: Debian Sudo Maintainers > >Honestly I never understood how exactly @p.d.o addresses work. >Devref says it'

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

sions harder. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 21:14:54 +0800, Blair Noctis wrote: >Open source webmails also exist. "When you're 10 out of 10 but it's your CVSS score". Greetings Marc -- ---- Marc Haber

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

#x27;s guide. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature |

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

n mutt/vim. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature |

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