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> Should I report the bug through the BTS ? Against which package ?
I have uploaded 0.1.32woody.5 previously but it was rejected by the
Stable Release Manager.
You can get it from
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ve a dictionary that gives the historical derivation?
I used
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`fu' really has no
meaning in the original meaning of the word `kung-fu', which is
simply time spent doing things.
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be that the mdadm code is unreliable, inefficient, or buggy).
The reason is that we need hotplug support or something similar
before RAID autodetection will make sense.
If you don't have the underlying devices there RAID autodetection
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ainst kernel about it.
> Much of this patch is scheduled to be included in 2.4.24, so the work
> required
If it is, then there may be nothing to merge at all.
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all uploads of my existing packages are just sitting in the queue
indefinitely. The changes files seem to have been moved/removed,
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> AKL. Mantas Kriauciunas wrote:
>
>> Herbert Xu: "Please discuss this on debian-devel before filing further
>> bugs."
>
> IMHO, there's no need to discuss this to death -- .desktop files make
> sense, t
ts of menu entries throughout the distribution.
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> too many things to be sure (my primary doubt was with flogiston).
Try searching for phlogiston instead.
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e kernel-image-2.4- packages which never had any troubles.
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[-o options,...] device mountpoint
> This is a builtin command. /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab are NOT supported.
If you're using busybox then try regenerating the initrd image with
BUSYBOX=no.
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ly replaced so there should be no problems hosting two packages
in Debian.
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st handled in a separate source package. This requires it to be
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package is not operational due to a libpam
upgrade. Please refer to the discussion that arose on debian-policy
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e conflicts.
It shouldn't be difficult as IPVS is already part of 2.6.
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working again. The last working Debian
> kernel with IPVS is 2.4.20.
You can either use a vanilla kernel, or unapply the IPSEC patch as
documented in the README.Debian file.
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Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Herbert Xu
>
> | Very few people really need cramfs if they're building custom kernels.
> | This is because initrd only makes sense when you're building for a
> | large number of machines. If you're building a cu
ot;, it is certainly
> unmaintainable for other "patch" package maintainer or any one try to
> apply patch to keep up with you.
Keeping up with the Debian tree is much the same as keeping up with
any other kernel tree. The answer is to use a proper revision control
system.
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would be able to do.
You argument fails even with the kernel source as the patch is easily
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ed not supported. But you can achieve
the same effect through IPSEC policies.
The only show stopper with tunnels is the lack of SNAT support. Even
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imes already.
The solution is to either upgrade to 2.4.22-2 which has just entered
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s. You can review
this for yourself by visiting to the BTS entry for the grsecurity
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of the population guilty of a crime,
one should not obey it without careful deliberation.
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should contain all
the information you need to extract any particular patch that you're
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'll probably include it when 2.4.23 is
released.
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from Debian.
> BTW - linux-2.6.0-test5 was released Sept 8.
Yes I know. I plan to stick to a monthly release schedule unless there
is something drastically wrong.
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s subsumed by the other criterion. In fact,
it is weaker than the Debian change criterion since it does not demand
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along with reasons why
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it is clearly going to be merged into Linux
proper then it is likely to fail that check.
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OK with me. However, if you wish to make everyone do that, then
>> may I suggest that you draw up a less arbitrary criterion than whether
>> someone has filed a bug about it in the Debian BTS.
>
> I don't think that the presence of a bug report is at all arbitrary.
Well then this is beyond me.
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wn (security) bugs.
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/changelog.
That's OK with me. However, if you wish to make everyone do that, then
may I suggest that you draw up a less arbitrary criterion than whether
someone has filed a bug about it in the Debian BTS.
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packages are done more or less blindly. Specifically, the message
> translations.
This might be OK for translations. But for anything else, if something
goes wrong, then it's the maintainer's fault since he is the one who
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bugs automatically.
This is bullshit.
We've gone through this many times already. Upstream changes should
not be documented in the Debian changelog, even if they fix bugs in
the Debian BTS.
If I were the maintainer of this package, I would close these bugs again.
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sh -c 'kill -9 $$'
and
/usr/bin/time sh -c 'kill -9 $$'
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> again, these days the player has root anyway.
If the player has root then why are discussing the possibility of the
player cracking into the games group?
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> levels into one to simplify things.
Required could be used to mark those packages which should be essential
but can't, e.g., libc6 or mawk.
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Bob Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Slightly off-topic, is there any tool to easily determine reverse
> build-depends?
apt-cache showpkg
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g to use initrd anyway? It's much easier to build
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I don't know the specifics of this case but perhaps they were worried
about the possibility of pulling ssl into a GPLed program accidentally?
If that's the case then it's certainly a valid reason to reject the
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an updated version of the standard. Standards get their
> value from having a rigid procedure for updates and modifications.
> Software do not.
Do you know that you will be fighting the infamous GFD? Good luck!
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ive any clue as to what flavors exist and has *no
> documentation at all*.
How many Debian users are there that will use lm-sensors and i2c
modules for a prepackaged kernel on a non-i386 architecture?
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Joe Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 17:23, Herbert Xu wrote:
>> I'd prefer no interaction at all during installation. I'm perfectly
>> able to read documenation thank you very much.
>
> Happily, the noninteractive debconf frontend ex
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 02:34:50PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Herbert Xu wrote:
>
> >
> >I for one am sick and tired of useless Debconf messages popping up
> >during installation or being sent to me via email when I'm upgrading
>
to me via email when I'm upgrading
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changelog already.
>
> I don't see anything particularly helpful in the upstream changelog for
> the above example.
Please do not generalise the practice of individual upstream authors.
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> On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:34:23PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
>
>> 2. debian/changelog readers -- No change. They have lost a slight bit
>> information that is irrelevant for the purpose of documenting Debian
>> changes.
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Herbert Xu wrote:
>
>> It is in fact detrimental for a third group, people who are trying to
>> extract the version in which a given bug was fixed.
>
> Aah, but if the bug wasn't fixed due to
oot -
Why is fakeroot calling the real chown(2)?
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Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If this indeed feasible, then this is the solution that appeals most to
> me personally.
It certainly is feasible. In fact, such a patch has been in existence
for at least a year.
> Also, Herbert Xu, the 80386 kernel-flavor main
u want to be pedantic, mostly redundant then. I don't know about
your upstream, but as far as the Linux kernel goes, most changes have
reasonable log messages in the BitKeeper system.
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ndant: these changes should be in
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ory");
> In particular, the lock prefix is not available on i386. Since this is
No it's xaddl that is not available on 386.
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> Huh? POSIX is the same as SUSv3 now? They used to be separate.
http://lwn.net/Articles/15697/
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gned with ISO/IEC 9899: 1. There is no
requirement that lex generates code that is accepted by c89.
But of course this has no bearing on whether a particular implementation
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Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>> OK. Let me ask you this question: what if the maintainer uploads a
>> new upstream release which happens to fix bug #xxx, and then sends
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>
>> OK. Let me ask you this question: what if the maintainer uploads a
>> new upstream release which happens to fix bug #xxx, and then sends
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> On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 07:42:05 +1000, Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>> Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:07:00PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
>>>
>>>&g
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:07:00PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
>
>> OK. Let me ask you this question: what if the maintainer uploads a
>> new upstream release which happens to fix bug #xxx, and then sends
>> a message by hand
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>> what if the maintainer uploads a new upstream release which happens to fix
>> bug #xxx, and then sends a message by hand to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> with the message &qu
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to include more information, we don't
need to stop them. But we sure as hell shouldn't be forcing them to
duplicate what is already in the upstream changelog.
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know about it.
Seriously, please find something more productive to do than making
these never-ending complaints about changelog entries. It might've
been fun for the first few times but it's getting really boring now.
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dding the external address to the loopback interface:
ip a a 192.168.65.5/32 dev lo
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ame upstream version is installed, a reboot usually has to be done
immediately.
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eck apart from the fact that if there isn't
an arch update after a security update to kernel-source, then that arch
is probably vulnerable. If you've got an idea on how this can improved,
please let us know.
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building kernels using the kernel-source package thinking that
it contained all the security fixes.
I believe that distributing a binary package that may contain
known security problems is a very serious problem.
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pcmcia works for most people).
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supply.
I agree that we should try to maintain compatibility. But it should not
override the need to include new stable kernel releases from upstream.
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Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 07:37:10AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
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>> How does this automate the arch-specific merges where conflicts arise?
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> 1. unpack pristine kernel source
> 2. apply Debian patch
> 3. dry-run arch-sp
hitecture maintainers send me patches which clearly don't affect
other archs or otherwise cause build problems, I will merge them.
I don't think we can guarantee a tree that builds on all or most
architectures, but we should be able to keep the difference to a
minimum.
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n be better prepared for subsequent security alerts.
And please don't exaggerate about the possibility of breaking systems.
New versions are only uploaded to proposed-updates after extensive testing
by the maintainers, the users in unstable as well as the general Linux
user base. If you have a particular breakage in the 2.4 line in mind,
please bring it up so we can see how it could've be dealt with better.
Cheers,
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de in one place.
How does this automate the arch-specific merges where conflicts arise?
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ch conflicts that you're seeing.
So essentially throwing them out means that your architecture will miss
out on all bug fixes. If this turns out to be what most of you want, then
that's fine and I will do just that.
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ing modules, or it is possible
to have it installed simultaneously with an old kernel image when the
ABI changes.
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he dependencies describe relationships between modules, not between
modules and a given kernel. The check against System.map is just an
added bonus.
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lem. Only the binutils from sarge/sid
generates map files that are not understood. Besides, these errors
are only warnings, the generated modules.dep still works.
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Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 2.5 apparently has a replacement for initrd which may require some changes.
initramfs is currently 100% backwards compatible. So no changes
are needed for initrd users.
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absent?
Pump doesn't write pid files. It uses a Unix-domain socket to
communicate with its previous incarnation, and failing that, a
TCP socket.
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he Unix-domain socket does not exist pump will use TCP
to detect an existing server.
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