Re: APT-Fu 0.2.3

2003-12-13 Thread Herbert Xu
ebian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: APT-Fu 0.2.3

2003-12-13 Thread Herbert Xu
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Re: Accepted kernel-image-2.4.22-i386 2.4.22-2woody.2 (i386 source)

2003-12-12 Thread Herbert Xu
> Should I report the bug through the BTS ? Against which package ? I have uploaded 0.1.32woody.5 previously but it was rejected by the Stable Release Manager. You can get it from http://master.debian.org/~herbert/woody/ -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert X

Re: APT-Fu 0.2.3

2003-12-12 Thread Herbert Xu
ve a dictionary that gives the historical derivation? I used ? (that's UTF-8) as the reference. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: APT-Fu 0.2.3

2003-12-11 Thread Herbert Xu
`fu' really has no meaning in the original meaning of the word `kung-fu', which is simply time spent doing things. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: APT-Fu 0.2.3

2003-12-10 Thread Herbert Xu
ate to construct the word `apt-fu'. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Initrd rocks! (was Re: Backporting 2.4.23 kernel packages)

2003-12-10 Thread Herbert Xu
be that the mdadm code is unreliable, inefficient, or buggy). The reason is that we need hotplug support or something similar before RAID autodetection will make sense. If you don't have the underlying devices there RAID autodetection will not work. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.d

Re: Building Debian Completely From Source

2003-12-08 Thread Herbert Xu
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Re: kernel-patch-acl

2003-12-05 Thread Herbert Xu
ainst kernel about it. > Much of this patch is scheduled to be included in 2.4.24, so the work > required If it is, then there may be nothing to merge at all. Cheers, -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page:

Re: Anonymous upload queue

2003-12-05 Thread Herbert Xu
ackages for 2.4.23 disappeared without a trace. And all uploads of my existing packages are just sitting in the queue indefinitely. The changes files seem to have been moved/removed, but they certainly aren't being installed. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Emai

Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-03 Thread Herbert Xu
Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AKL. Mantas Kriauciunas wrote: > >> Herbert Xu: "Please discuss this on debian-devel before filing further >> bugs." > > IMHO, there's no need to discuss this to death -- .desktop files make > sense, t

Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-03 Thread Herbert Xu
ts of menu entries throughout the distribution. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: ftpmaster accepts packages that have been rejected a few days ago

2003-11-13 Thread Herbert Xu
Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > too many things to be sure (my primary doubt was with flogiston). Try searching for phlogiston instead. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROT

Re: possible compromise for ITP: linux?

2003-11-12 Thread Herbert Xu
e kernel-image-2.4- packages which never had any troubles. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Kernel 2.4.22-k7-1: initrd cannot mount proc from cramfs image

2003-11-11 Thread Herbert Xu
[-o options,...] device mountpoint > This is a builtin command. /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab are NOT supported. If you're using busybox then try regenerating the initrd image with BUSYBOX=no. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~}

Re: Version Updating Question

2003-11-07 Thread Herbert Xu
Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-07 Thread Herbert Xu
ly replaced so there should be no problems hosting two packages in Debian. Cheers, -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers

2003-11-05 Thread Herbert Xu
st handled in a separate source package. This requires it to be in a different binary package too. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Pre-Depends for postgresql

2003-10-17 Thread Herbert Xu
package is not operational due to a libpam upgrade. Please refer to the discussion that arose on debian-policy when this last came up. Cheers, -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au

Re: nethack popularity contest - number_pad?

2003-10-16 Thread Herbert Xu
inux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Kernel source 2.4.22 and ipvs problems

2003-10-07 Thread Herbert Xu
e conflicts. It shouldn't be difficult as IPVS is already part of 2.6. Cheers, -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Kernel source 2.4.22 and ipvs problems

2003-10-06 Thread Herbert Xu
uld work. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Kernel source 2.4.22 and ipvs problems

2003-10-06 Thread Herbert Xu
working again. The last working Debian > kernel with IPVS is 2.4.20. You can either use a vanilla kernel, or unapply the IPSEC patch as documented in the README.Debian file. Cheers, -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[

Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

2003-10-05 Thread Herbert Xu
Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Herbert Xu > > | Very few people really need cramfs if they're building custom kernels. > | This is because initrd only makes sense when you're building for a > | large number of machines. If you're building a cu

Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

2003-10-04 Thread Herbert Xu
ot;, it is certainly > unmaintainable for other "patch" package maintainer or any one try to > apply patch to keep up with you. Keeping up with the Debian tree is much the same as keeping up with any other kernel tree. The answer is to use a proper revision control system. -- D

Re: The IPsec kernel problem

2003-10-03 Thread Herbert Xu
would be able to do. You argument fails even with the kernel source as the patch is easily reversed. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

2003-09-29 Thread Herbert Xu
ed not supported. But you can achieve the same effect through IPSEC policies. The only show stopper with tunnels is the lack of SNAT support. Even that isn't very difficult to resolve. Cheers, -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI

Re: kernel-image-2.4.22-1-k7 apm and usb-uhci problems

2003-09-29 Thread Herbert Xu
imes already. The solution is to either upgrade to 2.4.22-2 which has just entered unstable or boot with acpi=off. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://g

Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

2003-09-27 Thread Herbert Xu
s. You can review this for yourself by visiting to the BTS entry for the grsecurity package. Cheers, -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Bug#212525: Package contains non-free GNU FDL material

2003-09-27 Thread Herbert Xu
of the population guilty of a crime, one should not obey it without careful deliberation. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

2003-09-27 Thread Herbert Xu
should contain all the information you need to extract any particular patch that you're interested in. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: [PATCH] 2.2 kernel bug in utimes() and its results (m4 FTBFS, coreutils breakage, etc.)

2003-09-27 Thread Herbert Xu
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Re: To what extent should Debian modify the kernel? (Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!)

2003-09-26 Thread Herbert Xu
'll probably include it when 2.4.23 is released. Cheers, -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

2003-09-26 Thread Herbert Xu
from Debian. > BTW - linux-2.6.0-test5 was released Sept 8. Yes I know. I plan to stick to a monthly release schedule unless there is something drastically wrong. Cheers, -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home

Re: Horrific new levels of changelog abuse

2003-09-26 Thread Herbert Xu
s subsumed by the other criterion. In fact, it is weaker than the Debian change criterion since it does not demand all Debian changes to be listed. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.

Re: To what extent should Debian modify the kernel? (Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!)

2003-09-24 Thread Herbert Xu
along with reasons why you think they should be included. Cheers, -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: To what extent should Debian modify the kernel? (Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!)

2003-09-24 Thread Herbert Xu
it is clearly going to be merged into Linux proper then it is likely to fail that check. Cheers, -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Horrific new levels of changelog abuse

2003-09-24 Thread Herbert Xu
OK with me. However, if you wish to make everyone do that, then >> may I suggest that you draw up a less arbitrary criterion than whether >> someone has filed a bug about it in the Debian BTS. > > I don't think that the presence of a bug report is at all arbitrary. Well then this is beyond me. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

2003-09-22 Thread Herbert Xu
wn (security) bugs. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: To what extent should Debian modify the kernel? (Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!)

2003-09-22 Thread Herbert Xu
d. Cheers, -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Horrific new levels of changelog abuse

2003-09-22 Thread Herbert Xu
/changelog. That's OK with me. However, if you wish to make everyone do that, then may I suggest that you draw up a less arbitrary criterion than whether someone has filed a bug about it in the Debian BTS. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.1-1 (i386 source)

2003-08-31 Thread Herbert Xu
packages are done more or less blindly. Specifically, the message > translations. This might be OK for translations. But for anything else, if something goes wrong, then it's the maintainer's fault since he is the one who decided to let the patch in. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! (

Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.1-1 (i386 source)

2003-08-30 Thread Herbert Xu
nges in debian/changelog just because they happen to fix bugs in the Debian BTS makes no sense. Cheers, -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.1-1 (i386 source)

2003-08-30 Thread Herbert Xu
the feet of the maintainer. Cheers, -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.1-1 (i386 source)

2003-08-29 Thread Herbert Xu
bugs automatically. This is bullshit. We've gone through this many times already. Upstream changes should not be documented in the Debian changelog, even if they fix bugs in the Debian BTS. If I were the maintainer of this package, I would close these bugs again. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: time(1): Return value and sys/wait.h macros

2003-08-02 Thread Herbert Xu
e sh -c 'kill -9 $$' and /usr/bin/time sh -c 'kill -9 $$' will return different things. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: setuid/setgid binaries contained in the Debian repository.

2003-08-01 Thread Herbert Xu
> again, these days the player has root anyway. If the player has root then why are discussing the possibility of the player cracking into the games group? -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://go

Re: setuid/setgid binaries contained in the Debian repository.

2003-08-01 Thread Herbert Xu
U/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Future releases of Debian

2003-07-26 Thread Herbert Xu
> levels into one to simplify things. Required could be used to mark those packages which should be essential but can't, e.g., libc6 or mawk. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.ap

Re: May packages rm -rf subdirectories of /etc/ ?

2003-07-25 Thread Herbert Xu
Bob Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Slightly off-topic, is there any tool to easily determine reverse > build-depends? apt-cache showpkg -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Kernel question: initrd/cramfs

2003-07-12 Thread Herbert Xu
g to use initrd anyway? It's much easier to build the drivers into the kernel. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-04 Thread Herbert Xu
I don't know the specifics of this case but perhaps they were worried about the possibility of pulling ssl into a GPLed program accidentally? If that's the case then it's certainly a valid reason to reject the package. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Emai

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-03 Thread Herbert Xu
an updated version of the standard. Standards get their > value from having a rigid procedure for updates and modifications. > Software do not. Do you know that you will be fighting the infamous GFD? Good luck! -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~

Re: Kernel build dependencies for prepackaged modules

2003-07-03 Thread Herbert Xu
ive any clue as to what flavors exist and has *no > documentation at all*. How many Debian users are there that will use lm-sensors and i2c modules for a prepackaged kernel on a non-i386 architecture? -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert X

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-03 Thread Herbert Xu
Joe Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 17:23, Herbert Xu wrote: >> I'd prefer no interaction at all during installation. I'm perfectly >> able to read documenation thank you very much. > > Happily, the noninteractive debconf frontend ex

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Herbert Xu
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 02:34:50PM -0600, John Galt wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Herbert Xu wrote: > > > > >I for one am sick and tired of useless Debconf messages popping up > >during installation or being sent to me via email when I'm upgrading >

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Herbert Xu
to me via email when I'm upgrading hundreds of machines automatically. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-30 Thread Herbert Xu
doesn't solve the problem as the bug would've been closed anyway. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-29 Thread Herbert Xu
supplying information for the BTS which is not needed. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-25 Thread Herbert Xu
changelog already. > > I don't see anything particularly helpful in the upstream changelog for > the above example. Please do not generalise the practice of individual upstream authors. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EM

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-25 Thread Herbert Xu
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:34:23PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > >> 2. debian/changelog readers -- No change. They have lost a slight bit >> information that is irrelevant for the purpose of documenting Debian >> changes.

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-25 Thread Herbert Xu
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Herbert Xu wrote: > >> It is in fact detrimental for a third group, people who are trying to >> extract the version in which a given bug was fixed. > > Aah, but if the bug wasn't fixed due to

Re: kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-25 Thread Herbert Xu
oot - Why is fakeroot calling the real chown(2)? -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Herbert Xu
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If this indeed feasible, then this is the solution that appeals most to > me personally. It certainly is feasible. In fact, such a patch has been in existence for at least a year. > Also, Herbert Xu, the 80386 kernel-flavor main

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-25 Thread Herbert Xu
u want to be pedantic, mostly redundant then. I don't know about your upstream, but as far as the Linux kernel goes, most changes have reasonable log messages in the BitKeeper system. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-24 Thread Herbert Xu
ndant: these changes should be in the upstream changelog already. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-23 Thread Herbert Xu
ory"); > In particular, the lock prefix is not available on i386. Since this is No it's xaddl that is not available on 386. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-23 Thread Herbert Xu
would be safe. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-22 Thread Herbert Xu
e. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Bug#196800: flex mustn't assume stdint.h is available on allplatforms

2003-06-17 Thread Herbert Xu
Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Huh? POSIX is the same as SUSv3 now? They used to be separate. http://lwn.net/Articles/15697/ -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.

Re: Bug#196800: flex mustn't assume stdint.h is available on allplatforms

2003-06-16 Thread Herbert Xu
gned with ISO/IEC 9899: 1. There is no requirement that lex generates code that is accepted by c89. But of course this has no bearing on whether a particular implementation chooses to be backwards compatible or not. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu

Re: Changelogs (Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e"))

2003-06-16 Thread Herbert Xu
nged in Debian is what it was meant for in the first place. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Bug#196800: flex mustn't assume stdint.h is available on allplatforms

2003-06-15 Thread Herbert Xu
an.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-04 Thread Herbert Xu
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:07:00 +1000, Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> OK. Let me ask you this question: what if the maintainer uploads a >> new upstream release which happens to fix bug #xxx, and then sends

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-04 Thread Herbert Xu
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:07:00 +1000, Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> OK. Let me ask you this question: what if the maintainer uploads a >> new upstream release which happens to fix bug #xxx, and then sends

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-04 Thread Herbert Xu
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 07:42:05 +1000, Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:07:00PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: >>> >>>&g

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-02 Thread Herbert Xu
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:07:00PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > >> OK. Let me ask you this question: what if the maintainer uploads a >> new upstream release which happens to fix bug #xxx, and then sends >> a message by hand

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-02 Thread Herbert Xu
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:07:00PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: >> what if the maintainer uploads a new upstream release which happens to fix >> bug #xxx, and then sends a message by hand to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the message &qu

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-02 Thread Herbert Xu
inux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-01 Thread Herbert Xu
to include more information, we don't need to stop them. But we sure as hell shouldn't be forcing them to duplicate what is already in the upstream changelog. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Changelog issues with (among others) tkdiff 1:3.08-4

2003-06-01 Thread Herbert Xu
know about it. Seriously, please find something more productive to do than making these never-ending complaints about changelog entries. It might've been fun for the first few times but it's getting really boring now. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email:

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-31 Thread Herbert Xu
dding the external address to the loopback interface: ip a a 192.168.65.5/32 dev lo -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-31 Thread Herbert Xu
ame upstream version is installed, a reboot usually has to be done immediately. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-27 Thread Herbert Xu
eck apart from the fact that if there isn't an arch update after a security update to kernel-source, then that arch is probably vulnerable. If you've got an idea on how this can improved, please let us know. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-26 Thread Herbert Xu
building kernels using the kernel-source package thinking that it contained all the security fixes. I believe that distributing a binary package that may contain known security problems is a very serious problem. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-26 Thread Herbert Xu
n. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-25 Thread Herbert Xu
pcmcia works for most people). -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Herbert Xu
supply. I agree that we should try to maintain compatibility. But it should not override the need to include new stable kernel releases from upstream. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Herbert Xu
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 07:37:10AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: >> >> How does this automate the arch-specific merges where conflicts arise? > > 1. unpack pristine kernel source > 2. apply Debian patch > 3. dry-run arch-sp

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Herbert Xu
hitecture maintainers send me patches which clearly don't affect other archs or otherwise cause build problems, I will merge them. I don't think we can guarantee a tree that builds on all or most architectures, but we should be able to keep the difference to a minimum. -- Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Herbert Xu
n be better prepared for subsequent security alerts. And please don't exaggerate about the possibility of breaking systems. New versions are only uploaded to proposed-updates after extensive testing by the maintainers, the users in unstable as well as the general Linux user base. If you have a particular breakage in the 2.4 line in mind, please bring it up so we can see how it could've be dealt with better. Cheers, -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Herbert Xu
de in one place. How does this automate the arch-specific merges where conflicts arise? -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Herbert Xu
3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-23 Thread Herbert Xu
ch conflicts that you're seeing. So essentially throwing them out means that your architecture will miss out on all bug fixes. If this turns out to be what most of you want, then that's fine and I will do just that. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbe

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-23 Thread Herbert Xu
ing modules, or it is possible to have it installed simultaneously with an old kernel image when the ABI changes. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: bad postinst in kernel-images

2003-04-22 Thread Herbert Xu
he dependencies describe relationships between modules, not between modules and a given kernel. The check against System.map is just an added bonus. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apa

Re: bad postinst in kernel-images

2003-04-20 Thread Herbert Xu
lem. Only the binutils from sarge/sid generates map files that are not understood. Besides, these errors are only warnings, the generated modules.dep still works. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: htt

Re: [desktop] Patched kernels

2003-04-13 Thread Herbert Xu
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2.5 apparently has a replacement for initrd which may require some changes. initramfs is currently 100% backwards compatible. So no changes are needed for initrd users. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email:

Re: /run and read-only /etc

2003-04-13 Thread Herbert Xu
absent? Pump doesn't write pid files. It uses a Unix-domain socket to communicate with its previous incarnation, and failing that, a TCP socket. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://go

Re: /run and read-only /etc

2003-04-13 Thread Herbert Xu
he Unix-domain socket does not exist pump will use TCP to detect an existing server. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

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