Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 27, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote: > If the upstream tarball is in the archive, it's probably okay to retrieve one > from there. It's not always trivial because now you need to have the right > "deb-src" lines enabled in your apt sources.list but it's possible. But how do It is t

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Aaron Rainbolt
On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 10:31 PM Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > Hi, > > (replying in one email to various comments in past 24h) > > > How common debian/gbp.conf points at something else: perhaps gbp's > > defaults are not good, if that many packages need to override them. > > First of all may I ask yo

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi, (replying in one email to various comments in past 24h) > How common debian/gbp.conf points at something else: perhaps gbp's > defaults are not good, if that many packages need to override them. First of all may I ask you to not use terms like 'not good' as it may come off negative towards t

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
Quoting Marco d'Itri (2024-11-26 23:34:24) > On Nov 26, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Tue Nov 26, 2024 at 10:50 AM GMT, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > > > Yes, as they don't enable pristine-tar > > Is pristine-tar still valuable these days? > Not really. The debian branches of all of my packages[1]

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 26, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue Nov 26, 2024 at 10:50 AM GMT, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > > Yes, as they don't enable pristine-tar > Is pristine-tar still valuable these days? Not really. The debian branches of all of my packages[1] are based off the upstream git repository, which i

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 09:25:12PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Colin Watson writes: > > CI for a new-upstream-release commit you've pushed but haven't uploaded > > to the Debian archive yet, because you're waiting for CI. > > > > pristine-tar certainly isn't the only way here (it's true that C

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Simon Josefsson
Colin Watson writes: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 08:49:44PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> If you haven't made an upload, then wouldn't you have the tarball >> locally while working on preparing the upload? >> >> And if someone doesn't have the orig.tar.gz locally, then why would >> anyone want

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 08:49:44PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > If you haven't made an upload, then wouldn't you have the tarball > locally while working on preparing the upload? > > And if someone doesn't have the orig.tar.gz locally, then why would > anyone want to get it from a random git re

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Simon Josefsson
Andrey Rakhmatullin writes: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 06:54:18PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: >> > >> > Yes, as they don't enable pristine-tar >> > >> >> > >> Is pristine-tar still valuable these days? >> > > >> > > Unfortunately yes. AFAIK the two options for fixing this that are >> > > usu

Re: Misc Developer News (#60)

2024-11-26 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Tuesday, November 26, 2024 12:27:22 PM MST Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 12:21:55PM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote: > > > > # Specify the distribution, -d > > > > $distribution = 'unstable'; > > > > > > Setting this will override the Distribution of the .changes file created

Re: Misc Developer News (#60)

2024-11-26 Thread Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
Hi Soren, Quoting Soren Stoutner (2024-11-26 20:21:55) > > Setting this will override the Distribution of the .changes file created by > > sbuild with "unstable", ignoring what your package has set. Are you sure > > you want this? > > I would like it to be able to build instead of fail when the c

Re: Misc Developer News (#60)

2024-11-26 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 12:21:55PM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote: > > > # Specify the distribution, -d > > > $distribution = 'unstable'; > > > > Setting this will override the Distribution of the .changes file created by > > sbuild with "unstable", ignoring what your package has set. Are you sure yo

Re: Misc Developer News (#60)

2024-11-26 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Tuesday, November 26, 2024 12:23:00 PM MST Soren Stoutner wrote: > On Tuesday, November 26, 2024 3:17:45 AM MST Jochen Sprickerhof wrote: > > Hi Soren, > > > > * Soren Stoutner [2024-11-25 16:57]: > > >I am not able to get the example unshare .sbuildrc to work with piuparts. > > > > > >0m0.0s

Re: Misc Developer News (#60)

2024-11-26 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Tuesday, November 26, 2024 3:17:45 AM MST Jochen Sprickerhof wrote: > Hi Soren, > > * Soren Stoutner [2024-11-25 16:57]: > >I am not able to get the example unshare .sbuildrc to work with piuparts. > > > >0m0.0s DEBUG: Unpacking /home/soren/.cache/sbuild/unstable-amd64.tar.xz into > >/ tmp/tm

Re: Misc Developer News (#60)

2024-11-26 Thread Soren Stoutner
Johannes, On Monday, November 25, 2024 11:37:41 PM MST Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote: > Hi, > > Quoting Soren Stoutner (2024-11-26 01:07:06) > > > I suppose I should note that I have made a few modifications to the example > > file because it wasn’t behaving as expected. Specifically,

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 06:53:01PM +0100, Mechtilde Stehmann wrote: > > One possible rebuttal to this is "gbp needs to do the right thing then". > > Currently gbp by default generates a broken tarball, which is also a > > source of confusion for many. > > Do you have a bug report number? No. I've

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 06:54:18PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > >> > Yes, as they don't enable pristine-tar > > >> > > >> Is pristine-tar still valuable these days? > > > > > > Unfortunately yes. AFAIK the two options for fixing this that are > > > usually proposed are: > > > > > > 1) trea

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Simon Josefsson [241126 16:27]: > Chris Hofstaedtler writes: > > > * Jonathan Dowland [241126 12:59]: > >> On Tue Nov 26, 2024 at 10:50 AM GMT, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > >> > Yes, as they don't enable pristine-tar > >> > >> Is pristine-tar still valuable these days? > > > > Unfortunately

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Mechtilde Stehmann
Hello Andrey, Am 26.11.24 um 17:44 schrieb Andrey Rakhmatullin: On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 04:27:37PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: One possible rebuttal to this is "gbp needs to do the right thing then". Currently gbp by default generates a broken tarball, which is also a source of confusion for

Bug#1088300: ITP: python-pycudwt -- Python-CUDA implementation of the Wavelet Transform

2024-11-26 Thread Roland Mas
Package: wnpp X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, Debian Python Team Owner: Roland Mas Severity: wishlist * Package name: python-pycudwt Version : 1.0.2 Upstream Contact: Pierre Paleo * URL : https://github.com/pierrepaleo/pypwt * License : BSD-3-Cl

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 09:44:31PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > Currently gbp by default generates a broken tarball, which is also a > source of confusion for many. I'd dare to even call this a bug. -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-ac

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 04:27:37PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > >> > Yes, as they don't enable pristine-tar > >> > >> Is pristine-tar still valuable these days? > > > > Unfortunately yes. AFAIK the two options for fixing this that are > > usually proposed are: > > > > 1) treat it as a problem o

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Simon Josefsson
Chris Hofstaedtler writes: > * Jonathan Dowland [241126 12:59]: >> On Tue Nov 26, 2024 at 10:50 AM GMT, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: >> > Yes, as they don't enable pristine-tar >> >> Is pristine-tar still valuable these days? > > Unfortunately yes. AFAIK the two options for fixing this that are >

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 11:59:26AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > Yes, as they don't enable pristine-tar > > Is pristine-tar still valuable these days? Extremely, unless your workflow requires using something else to get the upstream tarball from the archive (among other less important requir

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Jonathan Dowland [241126 12:59]: > On Tue Nov 26, 2024 at 10:50 AM GMT, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > > Yes, as they don't enable pristine-tar > > Is pristine-tar still valuable these days? Unfortunately yes. AFAIK the two options for fixing this that are usually proposed are: 1) treat it as a

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue Nov 26, 2024 at 10:50 AM GMT, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: Yes, as they don't enable pristine-tar Is pristine-tar still valuable these days? and cannot guess your branch naming system. I haven't checked, but in an ideal world gbp would default to the same values for these as described

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 08:51:43AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > How common debian/gbp.conf points at something else: perhaps gbp's defaults > are not good, if that many packages need to override them. Yes, as they don't enable pristine-tar and cannot guess your branch naming system. -- WBR,

Re: GnuPG 2.4 before Trixie freeze

2024-11-26 Thread Stephan Verbücheln
I tried to find a blocking bug before my question on debian-devel, but I could not find any bug which justifies the delay. Note that Ubuntu 24.04 LTS also already uses GnuPG 2.4.x, so I do not expect a problem with the Debian tooling base like dpkg and apt. Regards signature.asc Description: Th

Re: Misc Developer News (#60)

2024-11-26 Thread Jochen Sprickerhof
Hi Soren, * Soren Stoutner [2024-11-25 16:57]: I am not able to get the example unshare .sbuildrc to work with piuparts. 0m0.0s DEBUG: Unpacking /home/soren/.cache/sbuild/unstable-amd64.tar.xz into / tmp/tmplbhnn26l 0m0.0s DEBUG: Starting command: ['tar', '-C', '/tmp/tmplbhnn26l', '--auto- com

Re: Freestanding arch

2024-11-26 Thread Bastien Roucariès
Le mardi 26 novembre 2024, 00:29:40 UTC Guillem Jover a écrit : > Hi! > > On Sun, 2024-11-24 at 16:09:42 +, Bastien Roucariès wrote: > > Le dimanche 24 novembre 2024, 12:06:26 UTC Bastien Roucariès a écrit : > > > I plan to implement freestanding architecture specification. > > > Following Tou

Re: Plasma 6 coming to unstable

2024-11-26 Thread Sedat Dilek
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 1:15 PM Aurélien COUDERC wrote: > > Dear fellow developers and Plasma users, > > after some months living in experimental and lots of positive feedback, we're > about to upload Plasma 6 to unstable. > The plans of the Qt / KDE team is to release Trixie with : > - Qt 5

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri Nov 22, 2024 at 11:29 AM GMT, Simon Josefsson wrote: I thought about the gbp aspect of the lets-move-things-to-salsa and I suggest to consider if they are better left orthogonal. Could you make one DEP for lets-move-to-salsa and one DEP for lets-document-a-build-workflow? I haven't read

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu Nov 21, 2024 at 4:10 AM GMT, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: There is a debian/gbp.conf in 13573 packages in Debian This is an interesting proxy measure for the prevalence of gbp usage. It probably undercounts: I sometimes use gbp but I've only got this file in one of my sources (one I recently