On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 06:54:18PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
> > >> > Yes, as they don't enable pristine-tar
> > >> 
> > >> Is pristine-tar still valuable these days?
> > >
> > > Unfortunately yes. AFAIK the two options for fixing this that are
> > > usually proposed are:
> > >
> > > 1) treat it as a problem of each individual developer, just like
> > > pristine-tar. Instead of pristine-tar, invent new tooling to manage
> > > tarballs.
> > > This path often tries to solve the problem only for Debian and only
> > > in a narrow scenario.
> > >
> > > 2) Have all uploads always supply a new orig.tar.gz. This could mean
> > > either treating every package as Debian-native, or some other
> > > solution.
> > > This is a global solution and reduces complexity instead of adding
> > > to it.
> > 
> > Until we record expected upstream tarball hashes in a debian/* file, an
> > acceptable approach seems to be to skip the pristine-tar branch and be
> > sure to download the previous orig.tar.* + orig.tar.*.asc from the
> > Debian archive, instead of attempting to re-generate it from the
> > upstream/ branch (which isn't guaranteed to be bit-by-bit reproducible).
> 
> This is 1). It cannot be done generically as it requires knowing
> where to download from, etc.

The archive, when the tarball is already there.

These suggestions never discuss what to do when the tarball was never
uploaded yet, even I didn't discuss that for simplicity. It makes sense
from some PoVs, at least when one doesn't use pristine-tar to make a
tarball that has differences in the actual content, not just bit
differences in the tarball itself while have identical file contents.

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