Re: Any Progress on DEP-18 ("Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages")?

2024-11-09 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! Thanks for following up. Based on the feedback about the goal/scope I decided to rewrite the DEP-18 almost completely, and published a new draft at https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/12 On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 at 03:14, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > It's been a while since -dev

Re: DEP-18: Git and GitLab usage in other Linux distros (Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git)

2024-11-09 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! ... > > - The number of contributors/maintainers is low everywhere. Ending > > single-person maintainership is not going to happen any soon, but hopefully, > > we can work towards first increasing the pool of contributors who > > participate, and then expand on practices around Merge Requests

Re: Debian Monthly [debian-devel]: AI News Report 2024/10

2024-11-09 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi Charles, On 11/9/24 15:48, Charles Plessy wrote: Thanks a lot Mo for this exciting experiment! And having two ex-DPLs pressing the big red stop button is not necessarly a bad sign in an ageing project. Often you will see ideas rejected in a very dismissive if not insulting way (for example

Re: Debian Monthly [debian-devel]: AI News Report 2024/10

2024-11-09 Thread Charles Plessy
Thanks a lot Mo for this exciting experiment! And having two ex-DPLs pressing the big red stop button is not necessarly a bad sign in an ageing project. Often you will see ideas rejected in a very dismissive if not insulting way (for example source-only uploads or HTTPS URLs in /etc/apt/sources.l

Re: Debian Monthly [debian-devel]: AI News Report 2024/10

2024-11-09 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2024-11-09T14:46:45-0800, Mo Zhou wrote: > The tone can change: http://paste.debian.net/1335055/ I recognize a different style there... > LLMs are being improved rapidly over time. ...but I'm not sure I would call the new example an improvement. With all those exclamation marks it seems more

Re: Debian Monthly [debian-devel]: AI News Report 2024/10

2024-11-09 Thread Mo Zhou
The tone can change: http://paste.debian.net/1335055/ LLMs are being improved rapidly over time. I guess it's due to some potential safety issues so that LLM uses a dull corporate tone by default. Those models should have been trained on different tones, as long as we instruct it to use them. On

Re: Debian Monthly [debian-devel]: AI News Report 2024/10

2024-11-09 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2024-11-09T21:44:40+, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Please, no further. We don't need hallucinated summaries on our > lists. If you want to publish them, publish them somewhere separately > IMHO. Oh, good--since it's not a CoC violation to express an unflattering opinion of this experiment, did a

Re: Debian Monthly [debian-devel]: AI News Report 2024/10

2024-11-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
lu...@debian.org wrote: >I just realized that the news report could be more useful if it cites >the information source. Here we go: > >debgpt -Hx ldo:debian-devel/2024/10 -a 'write a news report based on the >provided information. Cover as many topics as possible. You may expand a >little bit on

Re: Debian Monthly [debian-devel]: AI News Report 2024/10

2024-11-09 Thread Serafeim (Serafi) Zanikolas
On Sat Nov 9, 2024 at 10:00 PM CET, Mo Zhou wrote: > I just realized that the news report could be more useful if it cites > the information source. Here we go: thanks! the links are really key, given the known hallucination issues of LLMs signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Debian Monthly [debian-devel]: AI News Report 2024/10

2024-11-09 Thread Mo Zhou
I just realized that the news report could be more useful if it cites the information source. Here we go: debgpt -Hx ldo:debian-devel/2024/10 -a 'write a news report based on the provided information. Cover as many topics as possible. You may expand a little bit on important matter. include lin

Re: Debian Monthly [debian-devel]: AI News Report 2024/10

2024-11-09 Thread Mo Zhou
The LLM I used to produce that exact news report was gpt-4o-mini, from openai. ChatGPT is the name of openai's LLM web interface and its underlying LLM model name could change. It took roughly 3 minutes to perform the bulk API calls. That said, I basically implemented support for all commonly see

Re: Debian Monthly [debian-devel]: AI News Report 2024/10

2024-11-09 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2024-11-09 14:19:53 +0100 (+0100), PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: > is it via ChatGPT or an llm self hosted ? [...] It's DebGPT: https://salsa.debian.org/deeplearning-team/debgpt -- Jeremy Stanley signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Debian Monthly [debian-devel]: AI News Report 2024/10

2024-11-09 Thread PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel
is it via ChatGPT or an llm self hosted ? Can we imagine having a Debian hosted computer with and AMD GPU dedicated to this use case ? Se should provide these summaries letter for most of our mailing list :) cheers Fred - Le 9 Nov 24, à 14:09, Hector Oron zu...@debian.org a écrit : > Hel

Re: Debian Monthly [debian-devel]: AI News Report 2024/10

2024-11-09 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Lumin, El sáb, 9 nov 2024 a las 10:27, DebGPT () escribió: > > This is an experiment, by letting LLM go through all 369 emails from > debian-devel on Oct. The command for producing the news report > is included below. Use debgpt's git HEAD if you want to try. First time I see this kind of e

Re: Debian packaging for git-credential-libsecret

2024-11-09 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* M Hickford [241109 12:45]: > On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 at 21:42, M Hickford wrote: > > > > Hi. It'd be great to package Git credential helper > > git-credential-libsecret in Debian. There's a patch prepared, but it > > needs the attention of a Debian developer. Is anyone here able to > > help? https:

Re: Debian packaging for git-credential-libsecret

2024-11-09 Thread M Hickford
On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 at 21:42, M Hickford wrote: > > Hi. It'd be great to package Git credential helper > git-credential-libsecret in Debian. There's a patch prepared, but it > needs the attention of a Debian developer. Is anyone here able to > help? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bu

Debian Monthly [debian-devel]: AI News Report 2024/10

2024-11-09 Thread DebGPT
This is an experiment, by letting LLM go through all 369 emails from debian-devel on Oct. The command for producing the news report is included below. Use debgpt's git HEAD if you want to try. THE FOLLOWING CONTAINS AI-G