Following what I wrote on removals and the discussion on DEP 18, I think
that the following would be very neat:
- Packages are on Salsa,
- moving the source repository to a special group called 'removed'
removes the package from Unstable.
- reverting the move of the source repository reverts
On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 6:22:14 PM EDT Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Scott Kitterman wrote on 04/09/2024 at 06:23:50+0200:
> > On Monday, September 2, 2024 11:23:30 AM EDT Andreas Tille wrote:
> > ...
> >
> >> While I’ve read several emails in agreement, Scott Kitterman made a
> >> valid
Scott Kitterman wrote on 04/09/2024 at 06:23:50+0200:
> On Monday, September 2, 2024 11:23:30 AM EDT Andreas Tille wrote:
> ...
>> While I’ve read several emails in agreement, Scott Kitterman made a
>> valid point[ru4]: "I don't think we need more process. We just need
>> someone to do the work o
Hi,
Holger Levsen wrote on 04/09/2024 at 09:34:53+0200:
> On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 08:21:04AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>> After lintian.debian.org went unmaintained (beginning of 2022)
> [...]
>> After providing stale data for a long time, which confused many people,
>> lintian.debian.org was
Soren Stoutner wrote on 04/09/2024 at 08:30:39+0200:
> On Tuesday, September 3, 2024 11:21:04 PM MST Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>> After lintian.debian.org went unmaintained (beginning of 2022) and it
>> was clear noone was going to adopt it, I worked on a UDD-backed
>> replacement (in July 2022, see
Package: wnpp
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* Package name : q6voiced
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* URL : https://gitlab.com/postmarketOS/q6voiced
* License : MIT
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* Package name : lpac
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sorry, one more..
On 9/4/24 18:00, Lukas Märdian wrote:
> But we ought to look at the bigger picture!
>From that point of view, it doesn't make sense to even consider netplan.
No distribution other than ubuntu is using it.
If Debian uses network-manager and systemd-networkd, there's hardly any
d
On 9/4/24 18:00, Lukas Märdian wrote:
>> Of course we could. But who would actually care?
>
> That's exactly the problem!
I don't think so. I still have the impression that netplan wants to fill
a whole where in reality there's none.
In my experience networking from a systems point of view has d
On 2024-09-04 08:03, Lukas Märdian wrote:
Hi all!
On 04.09.24 15:46, Marc Haber wrote:
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 11:27:45 +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler
wrote:
* Marco d'Itri [240903 14:04]:
My position is that I am happy for Debian to have the option of netplan
but I do not think that it should be ins
On Wed Sep 4, 2024 at 8:21 AM CEST, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
[..]
> Also, I don't want to sound like I'm telling someone how to contribute
> to Debian, but it looks to me like there are more urgent issues to solve
> around lintian...
lintian's in perl and Nicolas already pointed out that he's not fam
On 9/4/24 17:49, Lukas Märdian wrote:
> Netplan is for the average user who googles about "how to configure network
> on debian" and ends up with the "4 ways to configure the network"
> [4ways] or
> even more options in the Debian Reference [debref]:
so, to exaggerate on purpose, netplan is only t
Lukas Märdian writes:
> But in the end we don't want to bloat our base-installation with
> NetworkManager and systemd-networkd is not fit to cover the desktop/laptop
> usecase. So why not put some glue around it, to make it all feel coherent,
> without limiting anybody in their decision to choose
Hi,
so far the Debian network-manager package has been built with support
for dhclient (isc-dhcp-client).
In version 1.49.90-1 (1.50 rc1), I decided to disable support for
dhclient. This has been triggered by the following upstream change:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/Networ
On 04.09.24 17:26, Marco d'Itri wrote:
With Netplan we could provide coherent network configuration across all
variants of Debian (server, cloud, laptop, ...), while choosing the best
underlying stack for the usecase (i.e. systemd-networkd on server/cloud
and NetworkManager on desktop/laptop).
O
On 04.09.24 13:28, Daniel Baumann wrote:
On 9/3/24 18:24, Lukas Märdian wrote:
The nice thing about Netplan is that it [...] functions as a
layer on top.
I don't understand what actual problem netplan is trying to solve.
On servers I want systemd-networkd directly anyway (for lacp, vlan and
b
On Sep 04, Lukas Märdian wrote:
> With Netplan we could provide coherent network configuration across all
> variants of Debian (server, cloud, laptop, ...), while choosing the best
> underlying stack for the usecase (i.e. systemd-networkd on server/cloud
> and NetworkManager on desktop/laptop).
O
Hi all!
On 04.09.24 15:46, Marc Haber wrote:
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 11:27:45 +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler
wrote:
* Marco d'Itri [240903 14:04]:
My position is that I am happy for Debian to have the option of netplan
but I do not think that it should be installed by default, because it is
an abstrac
Quoting Marc Haber (2024-09-04 15:43:15)
> On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 13:28:30 +0200, Daniel Baumann
> wrote:
> >On 9/3/24 18:24, Lukas Märdian wrote:
> >> The nice thing about Netplan is that it [...] functions as a
> >> layer on top.
> >
> >I don't understand what actual problem netplan is trying to sol
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 11:27:45 +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler
wrote:
>* Marco d'Itri [240903 14:04]:
>> My position is that I am happy for Debian to have the option of netplan
>> but I do not think that it should be installed by default, because it is
>> an abstraction which adds complexity and that no
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 13:28:30 +0200, Daniel Baumann
wrote:
>On 9/3/24 18:24, Lukas Märdian wrote:
>> The nice thing about Netplan is that it [...] functions as a
>> layer on top.
>
>I don't understand what actual problem netplan is trying to solve.
I am also missing that piece of information. At th
Hi,
On 9/3/24 18:24, Lukas Märdian wrote:
> The nice thing about Netplan is that it [...] functions as a
> layer on top.
I don't understand what actual problem netplan is trying to solve.
On servers I want systemd-networkd directly anyway (for lacp, vlan and
bridges), and on end-user desktops I'
Hi!
On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 12:39 PM PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel
wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> > Well, I didn't mean we should *give up* decentralization. I mean we
> > shouldn't
> > give up *centralization*. These examples are to prove centralization
> > actually
> > works and is quite common, sometimes ne
On 04/09/2024 17:21, PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote:
> Hello,
>
>> Well, I didn't mean we should *give up* decentralization. I mean we shouldn't
>> give up *centralization*. These examples are to prove centralization actually
>> works and is quite common, sometimes necessary.
>
> It would be great
Hello,
> Well, I didn't mean we should *give up* decentralization. I mean we shouldn't
> give up *centralization*. These examples are to prove centralization actually
> works and is quite common, sometimes necessary.
It would be great if we could run the salsa-ci pipeline localy easily, in
chroo
* Marco d'Itri [240903 14:04]:
> My position is that I am happy for Debian to have the option of netplan
> but I do not think that it should be installed by default, because it is
> an abstraction which adds complexity and that nobody asked for other
> than its developers.
>
> And this is an o
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going through a rough time in the process of the bottom line of business
plan and the office that you are working on myself with you and I will
also need you to do and I'm I'd be a good good and would love to have the
chanc
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On Wed, 04 Sep 2024 06:42:33 +0200, Jonas Smegegaard wrote:
> Quoting Blair Noctis (2024-09-04 04:33:10)
(...)
>> > PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel writes:
>> >
>> >> What about dog
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 08:21:04AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> After lintian.debian.org went unmaintained (beginning of 2022)
[...]
> After providing stale data for a long time, which confused many people,
> lintian.debian.org was shutdown in September 2023.
in Debian timeframes, this is basica
Hi!
Thanks both Lucas and Nicolas for your contributions to Debian.
Can we agree to have both UDD and lintian.debian.org, as the work to
develop the required systems already happened?
I think both websites have their benefits. Having a lintian.debian.org
site with links to man pages and addition
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