What happened with btrfs during freeze of Debian Jessie?

2016-07-08 Thread german398
Probably my previous message was misunderstood, so I try to rephrase it. Current Debian Stable is Debian Jessie. The latest Linux kernel for Debian Jessie is 3.16. The said version of Linux kernel on the said version of Debian includes btrfs module. But documentation for this version of kernel s

Re: Installer of Debian Stable allows to use btrfs for /, does it mean it's mature enough to use safely?

2016-07-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 09 Jul 2016, german...@ya.ru wrote: > >If you are very conservative on these matters, your two choices are ext4 and > >XFS. > > I don't want XFS because it has weak journaling compared with "data=journal" > mode of ext3/4. The data=journal mode of ext4 is less stable than the default da

Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release

2016-07-08 Thread Nicholas D Steeves
On 4 July 2016 at 18:38, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Mon, 2016-07-04 at 16:01 -0400, Nicholas D Steeves wrote: > [...] > [...] >> So for radeon hardware enablement, there is 1) the proprietary driver > > fglrx is dead upstream and removed from unstable. (It's still in > jessie-backports, but shoul

Bug#830526: ITP: golang-github-rogpeppe-fastuuid -- fast generation of 192-bit UUIDs

2016-07-08 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dmitry Smirnov X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, pkg-go-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org Control: block 829461 by -1 Package name: golang-github-rogpeppe-fastuuid Version: 0.0~git20150106 Upstream Author: Roger Peppe Licens

Re: Installer of Debian Stable allows to use btrfs for /, does it mean it's mature enough to use safely?

2016-07-08 Thread german398
>Believe the upstream. While in the nearest kernel, there is no sentence about >"under heavy development". Installer is just installer. It doesn't matter if the latest stable Linux kernel has stable and mostly bug-free btrfs. The problem is, that the latest stable Linux kernel for the latest De

Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release

2016-07-08 Thread Nicholas D Steeves
On 5 July 2016 at 08:40, Samuel Henrique wrote: > > 2016-07-05 7:43 GMT-03:00 Jose R R : >> >> We're getting to the point where there's a fairly pressing need for >> arm64 - the more useful hardware is starting to get a wider distribution >> and we don't really have anything for people who want to

Bug#830525: ITP: golang-github-dghubble-sling -- HTTP client library for creating and sending API requests

2016-07-08 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dmitry Smirnov X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, pkg-go-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org Control: block 829461 by -1 Package name: golang-github-dghubble-sling Version: 1.0 Upstream Author: Dalton Hubble License: Expat

Re: Installer of Debian Stable allows to use btrfs for /, does it mean it's mature enough to use safely?

2016-07-08 Thread german398
>If you are very conservative on these matters, your two choices are ext4 and >XFS. I don't want XFS because it has weak journaling compared with "data=journal" mode of ext3/4. I tried to use ext4 on Debian Stable due to metadata checksums, but then discovered that e2fsck doesn't support this

Re: Installer of Debian Stable allows to use btrfs for /, does it mean it's mature enough to use safely?

2016-07-08 Thread german398
>Please don't use btrfs. Especially not without understanding fully what one is getting oneself into. It is checksuming, copy of write filesystem, however it has degrading over time performance and stability/recovery issues. But if btrfs is so unstable, then what the hell it's doing in Debian Sta

ext4 and XFS [was: Re: Installer of Debian Stable allows to use btrfs for /, does it mean it's mature enough to use safely?]

2016-07-08 Thread Josh Triplett
Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jul 08, Russ Allbery wrote: > > And of those two choices, I would lean heavily towards ext4. I have seen > > repeated file system corruptions, kernel panics, and file systems that get > > extremely slow after heavy usage for multiple months under XFS, and have > > not see

Re: Installer of Debian Stable allows to use btrfs for /, does it mean it's mature enough to use safely?

2016-07-08 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
Hello, On 8 July 2016 at 16:55, wrote: > I value stability of a FS over other considerations like shiny new features > and performance. I know that Debian Stable includes only that versions of > software that were considered rock-solid and mostly bug-free. But on the > other hand I read docum

Re: Installer of Debian Stable allows to use btrfs for /, does it mean it's mature enough to use safely?

2016-07-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 08, Russ Allbery wrote: > And of those two choices, I would lean heavily towards ext4. I have seen > repeated file system corruptions, kernel panics, and file systems that get > extremely slow after heavy usage for multiple months under XFS, and have > not seen any of those problems with

Bug#830512: ITP: python-django-navtag -- Django template tag to handle navigation

2016-07-08 Thread Michael Fladischer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Fladischer -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 * Package name: python-django-navtag Version : 2.1.1 Upstream Author : Chris Beaven * URL : http://github.com/SmileyChris/django-navtag * License : BSD-

Re: Installer of Debian Stable allows to use btrfs for /, does it mean it's mature enough to use safely?

2016-07-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes: > On Fri, 08 Jul 2016, german...@ya.ru wrote: >> I value stability of a FS over other considerations like shiny new >> features and performance. I know that Debian Stable includes only that > Then, your case is pretty clear: stay away from brtfs. If you are v

Re: Installer of Debian Stable allows to use btrfs for /, does it mean it's mature enough to use safely?

2016-07-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 08 Jul 2016, german...@ya.ru wrote: > I value stability of a FS over other considerations like shiny new > features and performance. I know that Debian Stable includes only that Then, your case is pretty clear: stay away from brtfs. If you are very conservative on these matters, your two

Re: So I received a gpg-signed email, can I trust it?

2016-07-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 02:54:20PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: > What if you received a message signed with key 9F6C6333? > > That is, what do you do (please list the practical steps) to validate a > signature that is a few steps away from your key in the WoT? trust in the real world depends on more

Re: Installer of Debian Stable allows to use btrfs for /, does it mean it's mature enough to use safely?

2016-07-08 Thread Steve McIntyre
german...@ya.ru wrote: >I value stability of a FS over other considerations like shiny new features >and performance. I know that >Debian Stable includes only that versions of software that were considered >rock-solid and mostly >bug-free. But on the other hand I read documentation for version of

Bug#830499: ITP: ncrack -- High-speed network authentication cracking tool

2016-07-08 Thread Marcos
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marcos * Package name: ncrack Version : 0.5 Upstream Author : Insecure.Com LLC * URL : http://nmap.org/ncrack/ * License : GPLv2 Programming Lang: C++ Description : High-speed network authentication cracking tool

Re: So I received a gpg-signed email, can I trust it?

2016-07-08 Thread Guilhem Moulin
Hi Enrico, On Fri, 08 Jul 2016 at 11:21:27 +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: > gpg --verify tells me of a short key ID: In fact the issuer subpacket is 8-bytes long [0], hence contains the long key ID of the signer, as seen using ‘--list-packets’: ~$ gpg --list-packets " imported gpg: no ultima

Re: Installer of Debian Stable allows to use btrfs for /, does it mean it's mature enough to use safely?

2016-07-08 Thread YunQiang Su
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:55 PM, wrote: > I value stability of a FS over other considerations like shiny new features > and performance. I know that Debian Stable includes only that versions of > software that were considered rock-solid and mostly bug-free. But on the > other hand I read docum

Installer of Debian Stable allows to use btrfs for /, does it mean it's mature enough to use safely?

2016-07-08 Thread german398
I value stability of a FS over other considerations like shiny new features and performance. I know that Debian Stable includes only that versions of software that were considered rock-solid and mostly bug-free. But on the other hand I read documentation for version of a Linux kernel of Debian S

Re: So I received a gpg-signed email, can I trust it?

2016-07-08 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Simon Richter , 2016-07-08, 14:33: given that it is now possible to generate arbitrary short key ID collisions[1], and that it's now computationally feasible to at least generate a pair of keys with colliding long key IDs, I'd like to rethink practices and tools. With the web of trust, in p

Re: So I received a gpg-signed email, can I trust it?

2016-07-08 Thread Enrico Zini
On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 02:33:54PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote: > > given that it is now possible to generate arbitrary short key ID > > collisions[1], and that it's now computationally feasible to at least > > generate a pair of keys with colliding long key IDs, I'd like to rethink > > practices a

Re: So I received a gpg-signed email, can I trust it?

2016-07-08 Thread Simon Richter
Hi Enrico, On 08.07.2016 11:21, Enrico Zini wrote: > given that it is now possible to generate arbitrary short key ID > collisions[1], and that it's now computationally feasible to at least > generate a pair of keys with colliding long key IDs, I'd like to rethink > practices and tools. With the

Request for help - faithful source format (related to dgit)

2016-07-08 Thread Ian Jackson
This is a call for help for one or two volunteers who: - are keen on gitish (or similar workflows) - have some time right now - can speak Perl (as found in dpkg-source) - are willing and able to do some negotiation as well as coding Introduction: One persistent difficulty with our current s

Re: So I received a gpg-signed email, can I trust it?

2016-07-08 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Enrico Zini , 2016-07-08, 11:21: $ mkdir /tmp/keyring $ chmod 0700 /tmp/keyring This way of creating a directory inaccessible to other is racy. Between mkdir and chmod calls, the directory could be opened by an attacker (and then kept open forever). A non-racy way looks like this: $ mkd

Bug#830475: ITP: r-cran-treescape -- GNU R Statistical Exploration of Landscapes of Phylogenetic Trees

2016-07-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: r-cran-treescape Version : 1.9.17 Upstream Author : Thibaut Jombart, Michelle Kendall, Jacob Almagro-Garcia, Caroline Colijn * URL : https://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/treescape/ * License

Re: deb.debian.org [was: Re: howto avoid "apt-get update" going guru?]

2016-07-08 Thread Josh Triplett
On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 08:56:37AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 11:03:16PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > > Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > ]] Josh Triplett > > > > Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > > > I personally recommend using deb.debian.org. > > > > > > > > That works nicely,

So I received a gpg-signed email, can I trust it?

2016-07-08 Thread Enrico Zini
Hello, given that it is now possible to generate arbitrary short key ID collisions[1], and that it's now computationally feasible to at least generate a pair of keys with colliding long key IDs, I'd like to rethink practices and tools. In the spirit of "first get to do it, then document it, then

Re: deb.debian.org [was: Re: howto avoid "apt-get update" going guru?]

2016-07-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Josh Triplett > [Please CC me on replies.] > > Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > ]] Josh Triplett > > > Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > > I personally recommend using deb.debian.org. > > > > > > That works nicely, thanks! Seems to have decent performance. > > > > > > I couldn't find any announcement