Hello everybody,
may I suggest the Blends framework to those who want metapackages that
influence what is installed by default on their system ?
Currently, one of the main limits of the Blends framework is that it works
mostly by installing metapackages after a default installation. But I would
Juliusz Chroboczek writes:
>> You have not yet explained why apt pinning is not enough.
>
> I'd appreciate an explanation too. I've inserted in my apt/preferences
> file the incantation given by Vitali F. (to whom thanks) at the very
> beginning of this thread, and it appears to have the requeste
2014-07-03 0:40 GMT+02:00 Norbert Preining :
> On Wed, 02 Jul 2014, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>> And should we open the archive for a series of "i hate $tool, i never
>> want it" packages, where do we stop? In theory we could end up with a
>> load of them.
>
> Joertg, please be reasonable. You know exac
On Wed, 02 Jul 2014, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> And should we open the archive for a series of "i hate $tool, i never
> want it" packages, where do we stop? In theory we could end up with a
> load of them.
Joertg, please be reasonable. You know exactely why there is a difference
between a conflict-pac
On Wed, 02 Jul 2014, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> I don't want XFCE on my system. I don't install xfce-must-die, I just look at
> apt when I upgrade my system or install new packages.
You will never get xfce via an indirect 4-step dependency chain,
but systemd comes in due to being the first al
> You have not yet explained why apt pinning is not enough.
I'd appreciate an explanation too. I've inserted in my apt/preferences
file the incantation given by Vitali F. (to whom thanks) at the very
beginning of this thread, and it appears to have the requested effect.
I've looked through the w
On 13624 March 1977, Svante Signell wrote:
>> > Please rename the systemd-must-die package to something neutral. Thank
>> > you.
>> A package with this name wont ever appear in the archive, and I just
>> rejected it.
> What about systemd-nogo or nogo-systemd, alternately just no-systemd?
*I* fail
On 02/07/14 20:39, Svante Signell wrote:
> Independent of Thorstens answer I (and many with me) find it very
> convenient to have these packages. And, there won't be 50 000
> foo-must-die packages. There is no such controversy with other packages,
> the ones I can think of might be prevent-gnome, p
On Wed, 2014-07-02 at 20:39 +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> these packages. And, there won't be 50 000
> foo-must-die packages.
Packages are there to install software, not to prevent sucht
installation.
This is a perversion of any package management system.
What you want can be done via apt_prefe
On Wed, 2014-07-02 at 20:39 +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-07-02 at 16:54 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> And this one is
> very important: systemd is default, not optional.
^^mandatory
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On Wed, 2014-07-02 at 16:54 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> On 02/07/14 15:38, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> > Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> >> Wookey wrote:
> > But then, I did not upload them, and I do not oppose a name change.
> > Also, add the "Important: yes" header (and, obviously, remove the
>
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On 02/07/14 15:38, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
>> Wookey wrote:
>
>>> I think some people are failing to see the humour in this name
>>> (and Dawkins knows we could use some humour round this subject), but I
>>> guess if it's not going to be allowed then it's not going to be
>>>
Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
>Wookey wrote:
>> I think some people are failing to see the humour in this name
>> (and Dawkins knows we could use some humour round this subject), but I
>> guess if it's not going to be allowed then it's not going to be
>> allowed.
>
>Yes, I also completely fail to see the
On Wed Jul 2 2014 07:26:52 PM HKT, Juliusz Chroboczek
wrote:
> > Please send it publicly in the Debian bug tracker.
>
> Sorry, Thomas, but I'm not quite sure what are the privacy implications
> of making public the set of packages running on my system. (Probably
> none, but I'd rather not f
At Wed, 2 Jul 2014 00:13:31 +0100,
Wookey wrote:
>
> +++ Lars Wirzenius [2014-07-01 18:34 +0100]:
> > On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 04:23:01PM +0100, Wookey wrote:
> > > You get a choice of 'prevent-systemd' which stops it running as init
> > > but allows the -shim and libpam packages so that logind and
>>> Juliusz, can you please paste your apt logs
>> Sent by private mail.
> Please send it publicly in the Debian bug tracker.
Sorry, Thomas, but I'm not quite sure what are the privacy implications of
making public the set of packages running on my system. (Probably none,
but I'd rather not fin
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On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 00:13:31 +0100
Wookey wrote:
> > > You get a choice of 'prevent-systemd' which stops it running as
> > > init but allows the -shim and libpam packages so that logind and
> > > the like will work. Or 'systemd-must-die' which conflicts with
> > > everything systemdish.
> > Please
Hi,
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 6:09 PM, forum::für::umläute
wrote:
> i *think* that tobias meant that *you* should contact frontdesk [1]
Sorry, I mis-understand...
Already contacted.
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On 2014-07-02 09:33, Kiwamu Okabe wrote:
> Hi Tobias,
>
> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Tobias Frost wrote:
>> On 1. Juli 2014 09:41:17 MESZ, Kiwamu Okabe wrote:
>> Dont know exactly, but I would contact frontdesk and ASK them to reset the
>> status/ for the procedure.
>
> Oh, feel lucky.
> C
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014, at 09:37, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 07/02/2014 12:09 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > On Jul 01, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote:
> >
> >> I think that a critical debconf warning should be in place to avoid
> >> replacing the init system of users without prior explicit consent
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 01:53:06AM +0100, Wookey wrote:
> But OK. I get it - this is still too contentious to have any room for
> this sort of foolishness and if it's to exist at all it'll have to be
> called something boring. That's a little sad, but we'll all
> survive. This isn't supposed to be
On 07/02/2014 12:09 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Jul 01, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote:
>
>> I think that a critical debconf warning should be in place to avoid
>> replacing the init system of users without prior explicit consent.
> I think that this would be an annoying waste of time for most
❦ 1 juillet 2014 21:17 +0200, Michael Biebl :
> As of this writing 204, is already over 1 year old and will be grossly
> outdated once jessie releases. It also misses a lot of important
> functionality.
> That missing functionality is holding back other maintainers, like the
> GNOME maintainers
On 07/02/2014 03:52 AM, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
>> Juliusz, can you please paste your apt logs showing what pulled systemd
>> in on the system?
>
> Sent by private mail. If anyone else wants a copy, please drop me a note.
>
> -- Juliusz
Please send it publicly in the Debian bug tracker.
Thom
Hi Tobias,
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Tobias Frost wrote:
> On 1. Juli 2014 09:41:17 MESZ, Kiwamu Okabe wrote:
> Dont know exactly, but I would contact frontdesk and ASK them to reset the
> status/ for the procedure.
Oh, feel lucky.
Could you contact the frontdesk? > Tobias
Thank's for yo
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 01:10:51AM +, Clint Adams wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 01:53:06AM +0100, Wookey wrote:
> > But OK. I get it - this is still too contentious to have any room for
> > this sort of foolishness and if it's to exist at all it'll have to be
> > called something boring. Tha
Hi,
Clint Adams:
> If you're going for non-boring entertainment value, have you
> considered i-am-a-kneejerk-idiot-[...]
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