Dmitrijs Ledkovs writes:
>> Also on technical merits although more philosophically, with Upstart you're
>> expressing yourself in an event-based DSL rather than writing configuration
>> files. It's pretty generic. But unfortunately, that means it's also not
>> entirely straightforward, and, I beli
On Fri, 2013-05-24 at 12:32 +0200, Dennis van Dok wrote:
> The point I'd like to raise is that the current model of CA
> certificates seems to take an all-or-nothing approach: either a CA is
> trusted (for whatever purpose) or not. For the IGTF CAs, this may not
> be the right approach.
I don't thi
On 24 May 2013 23:16, Игорь Пашев wrote:
> 2013/5/23 Helmut Grohne :
>> * stdout/stderr to syslog redirection
>>This is possibly implementable, but needs more than a line of shell.
>
> In Solaris SMF each service has its own log file with SMF messages
> *and* all stdout/stderr
>
> pashev@bok:~
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2013/5/23 Helmut Grohne :
> * stdout/stderr to syslog redirection
>This is possibly implementable, but needs more than a line of shell.
In Solaris SMF each service has its own log file with SMF messages
*and* all stdout/stderr
pashev@bok:~$ find /var/log/svc/
/var/log/svc/
/var/log/svc/netw
On 24-05-13 19:18, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:32:29PM +0200, Dennis van Dok wrote:
>> The point I'd like to raise is that the current model of CA
>> certificates seems to take an all-or-nothing approach: either a CA is
>> trusted (for whatever purpose) or not. For the IGTF CAs,
* Helmut Grohne:
> * supervision/service restart/heartbeat
>sysv simply does not provide this functionality.
Actually, it does, through /etc/inittab. But this capability is
rarely used.
Curiously, Fedora doesn't use systemd's service restart functionality
much, either. (By default, system
Thomas Goirand writes:
> I don't understand the OP's post in the first place. What did he need to
> know that wasn't discussed before?
The opinions of all the people who have opinions but are uninterested in
wading through huge threads to express them, don't read debian-devel at
all (the call fo
On 05/24/2013 04:15 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 04:07:06AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> On 05/23/2013 03:55 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>>> How on earth does that contradict with the fact that 40%, i.e.
>>> the minority of all contributions are done by the orig
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On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:29:07PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On 24/05/13 11:29, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
> > As far as I understand (correct me if I am wrong), systemd instead of
> > counting/tracking forks uses cgroups to keep track of the started
> > processes.
> systemd uses cgroups to trac
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> Hi,
>
> I would like to ask what would be general opinion to add functionality to
> BTS to be able to blacklist[*] certain people from filling the bugs
> directly.
>
[...]
> * - It doesn't have to be blacklist per se, it could be a queue which would
> be viewed by some fresher minds, who still
On Fri, 24 May 2013, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> I would like to ask what would be general opinion to add functionality
> to BTS to be able to blacklist[*] certain people from filling the bugs
> directly.
We actually already have this functionality, as the BTS uses procmail.
> There are few of them, so
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:32:29PM +0200, Dennis van Dok wrote:
> The point I'd like to raise is that the current model of CA
> certificates seems to take an all-or-nothing approach: either a CA is
> trusted (for whatever purpose) or not. For the IGTF CAs, this may not
> be the right approach.
One
Dmitrijs Ledkovs debian.org> writes:
>> Also on technical merits although more philosophically, with Upstart you're
>> expressing yourself in an event-based DSL rather than writing configuration
>> files. It's pretty generic. But unfortunately, that means it's also not
>> entirely straightforward
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 08:40:19AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2013 12:50:00 -0700, Steve Langasek
> wrote:
> >Also worth noting:
> >
> >~/systemd$ find . -name '*.c' | grep -vE 'tests|test/|intl/|udev/' \
> > | xargs wc -l | tail -n1
> > 149081 total
> >$ find . -name '*.c
Hi,
I would like to ask what would be general opinion to add functionality to
BTS to be able to blacklist[*] certain people from filling the bugs
directly.
There are few of them, some of them are trolls, some of them are just bug
machines, but it is tiresome to handle useless bugreports with no o
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Matthias Urlichs wrote:
>Steve McIntyre writes:
>
>> Matthias wrote:
>> >
>> >Please also keep in mind that many upstream projects ship systemd service
>> >files. Therefore, most of the systemd work is already done too.
>>
>> Most? Really? Do you have stats for that?
>>
>Given the fact that sysv
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Le 24/05/2013 11:50, Vincent Cheng a écrit :
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Thibaut Paumard
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Despite all the efforts from many people, it's still quite
>> difficult to get a fully functional Debian system on cert
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On 24/05/13 11:29, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
> As far as I understand (correct me if I am wrong), systemd instead of
> counting/tracking forks uses cgroups to keep track of the started
> processes.
systemd uses cgroups to track "which processes are part of this
service?", which means the services ma
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:29:27AM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
> Blog posts are interesting to read, but at times I'd like to look up
> reference manuals which are more than bear minimal man pages. Whilst
> systemd ships manpages, the website has either incorrectly formatted
> wiki-pages and/or
On 23 May 2013 10:37, Ole Laursen wrote:
> Steve Langasek debian.org> writes:
>> Sorry you ran into trouble with upstart.
>
> Not a DD, just a happy Debian user, hope you'll excuse me, but on the topic
> of Upstart, I have some technical comments on why, surprisingly, I think it
> may not be matu
On 2013-05-24 02:16, brian m. carlson wrote:
Yes, systemd uses separate processes, but they are not independent.
They cannot be independently turned off. If I decide I do not want the
journal features, however useful others might think they are, I should
not have to resort to chmod and dpkg-stat
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Hi,
I've seen the Debconf '12 discussion on X.509 certificate stores[1]
and the Wiki page that came out of that discussion[2].
1.
http://www.irill.org/videos/debconf-12/895_X.509_Cert_Store_Discussion.mp4
2. http://wiki.debian.org/X.509
As far as I'
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Thibaut Paumard wrote:
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> Dear all,
>
> Despite all the efforts from many people, it's still quite difficult to
> get a fully functional Debian system on certain Apple hardware.
>
> I have been looking for a t
Adam Borowski writes:
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 09:55:41AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> On 05/23/2013 06:56 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> > "As you may know, systemd is developed by a large amount of
>> contributors"
>>
>> How on earth does that contradict with the fact that 40%,
Steve Langasek writes:
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 09:11:55AM +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote:
>
>> Also, post-raring, systemd is available in Ubuntu aswell, and in some
>> cases, you can check for systemd at runtime, needing no modification to
>> the package *at all*.
>
> What's available in Ubuntu are
On 05/22/2013 06:19 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 03:39:00PM +0200, Bernd Schubert wrote:
On 05/22/2013 04:50 AM, Uoti Urpala wrote:
Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
I went through the various init systems threads again during the last
few days. My understanding of the consensus so fa
On 05/24/2013 02:19 PM, Svante Signell wrote:
> What is the status of packaging OpenRC for Debian? Is there a group
> doing that, is help needed?
Ok, if you ask...
Currently, the package can build and install, at least on Linux flavors
of Debian.
Once installed, it will unfortunately not underst
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 04:07:06AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> I'm still not convinced. Don't trust the lies from Lennart, the git
> clone tells the truth:
As a mostly lurker, I think there was already a request to be a bit more
polite on this mailing list. The is a big difference between someo
If
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:50:00PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> A large number of contributors to an *init system* is not
> something that should be a goal in and of itself
Then
> Furthermore, the statistics for systemd are themselves a distortion
isn't really relevant here, let's please n
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 03:22:12AM +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
> Ubuntu carries patches downstream to make logind work without systemd
> but with upstart instead, but I don't think that doing that is a sane
> solution.
Various GNOME code incorrectly checked for systemd-as-init before using
login
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 04:07:06AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 05/23/2013 03:55 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> > How on earth does that contradict with the fact that 40%, i.e.
> > the minority of all contributions are done by the original
> > author. 40% still means that 60% of the co
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 03:22:12AM +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
> 2013/5/24 brian m. carlson :
Gentlemen,
This is well-worn territory on -devel. Please bear in mind the OP's wish
not to open this can of worms again.
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Steve Langasek debian.org> writes:
> Sorry you ran into trouble with upstart.
Not a DD, just a happy Debian user, hope you'll excuse me, but on the topic
of Upstart, I have some technical comments on why, surprisingly, I think it
may not be mature enough yet.
A couple of years ago I was doing em
hi,
2013/5/23 Benjamin Drung :
> Am Donnerstag, den 23.05.2013, 08:51 +0200 schrieb Bjoern Meier:
>> hi,
>>
>> 2013/5/23 Ondřej Surý :
>> > Joss isn't the only one to blame. Could all please stop bashing each
>> other (and Joss) and stick back to technical arguments? (Saying "I'm
>> sorry" private
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