hi,

2013/5/23 Benjamin Drung <bdr...@debian.org>:
> Am Donnerstag, den 23.05.2013, 08:51 +0200 schrieb Bjoern Meier:
>> hi,
>>
>> 2013/5/23 Ondřej Surý <ond...@sury.org>:
>> > Joss isn't the only one to blame. Could all please stop bashing each
>> other (and Joss) and stick back to technical arguments? (Saying "I'm
>> sorry" privately to each other for each ad hominem argument used in
>> this thread would also help!)
>> >
>> > I can clearly see what has provoked this reaction and I have a deep
>> understanding for it.
>> >
>> > Ondřej Surý
>> > P.S.: You should also stop using phrases like "five years old" -
>> using the word "inappropriate" would make your email still correct,
>> but not so dishonesting.
>>
>> could everybody just please stop spamming? (my first and last attempt.
>> I don't need a list of  'good guys' with watchguard behavior All I
>> read is:"Mimimimimi!" in ALL directions.
>
> Ondřej Surý is not spamming. He raises an important issue. Insults and
> disrespectful behavior on debian-devel are not welcome. There is no
> excuse for such behavior. You might have a thick skin and disagree, but
> not everyone is happy to deal with bad manners. So I ask for
> considerateness.

A very subjective point of view. I don't see any insults (there is no
personal direction) or disrespect.
I would say, that Josselin raises an important issue. 'Bad manners'
works in many directions. The important issue is
"I do not accept this kind of intellectual terrorism, where a handful of
low-throughput contributors (when they contribute at all), who never
even try to understand the issues at hand, keep on bitching and whining
endlessly, unsatisfied until others abandon whatever they were trying to
improve." - Josselin
I'v to agree. OOS was for me the possibility to do things, now it
seems the possibility to LET things do.
So yes, for me it is an insult to mark me as a programming monkey.


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