Re: Bug#708566: library -dev naming policy encourages unnecessary transitions

2013-05-20 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 07:33:43PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Guillem Jover writes: > > > Perhaps, but I think we just lack better documentation and advice when > > it comes to shared library handling in general. > > > There was an attempt by Junichi Uekawa (CCed) some time ago [L], but >

Bug#709143: ITP: cssmin -- YUI CSS compression algorithm in Python

2013-05-20 Thread Stuart Prescott
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stuart Prescott * Package name: cssmin Version : 0.1.4 Upstream Author : Zachary Voase * URL : http://github.com/zacharyvoase/cssmin * License : Expat Programming Lang: Python Description : YUI CSS compression al

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Norbert Preining wrote: >> Please don't introduce yet more embedded code copies. > > Already happened and uploaded. Will be reverted when libgd is fixed. The fact that you couldn't have waited *one* more day after I have announced that I will fix the libgd2 makes

Bug#709137: ITP: freespace2 -- open source implementation of the Freespace 2 game engine

2013-05-20 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-devel-ga...@lists.debian.org Package name: freespace2 Version: 3.6.18 Upstream Author: Freespace2 source code project URL: http://scp.indiegames.us/ License: do-not-sell-or-commercial

Bug#709136: ITP: freespace2-launcher-wxlauncher -- launcher for the Freespace 2 Source Code Project

2013-05-20 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-devel-ga...@lists.debian.org Package name: freespace2-launcher-wxlauncher Version: 0.9.1 Upstream Author: wxLauncher Team URL: https://code.google.com/p/wxlauncher/ License: GPL-2+, C

Bug#709135: ITP: bats -- Bash Automated Testing System

2013-05-20 Thread Grzegorz Niewisiewicz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Grzegorz Niewisiewicz * Package name: bats Version : 0.2.0 Upstream Author : Sam Stephenson * URL : https://github.com/sstephenson/bats * License : MIT Programming Lang: bash Description : Bash Automated Testing

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Di, 21 Mai 2013, Paul Wise wrote: >> Sune was not trolling, he was offering constructive and appropriate ... > I would have considered preparing a NMU for libgd constructive. > Pressing on one more embedded copy bla bla is not what I co

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Paul, On Di, 21 Mai 2013, Paul Wise wrote: > Sune was not trolling, he was offering constructive and appropriate Constructive? Do you consider leaving everyone who did a partial upgrade in a quasi unfixable state only because I cannot upload another version until libgd is fixed? Do you consi

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Mo, 20 Mai 2013, Sune Vuorela wrote: >> I really don't appreciate your tone here describing your fellow debian >> developers who are putting a lot of work trying to make debian as a >> whole as smooth as possible. I would really encourag

Re: Bug#708566: library -dev naming policy encourages unnecessary transitions

2013-05-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Guillem Jover writes: > Perhaps, but I think we just lack better documentation and advice when > it comes to shared library handling in general. > There was an attempt by Junichi Uekawa (CCed) some time ago [L], but > AFAIR some people shunned it because supposedly it contained inaccuracies > or

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Jay Berkenbilt writes: > Ondřej Surý wrote: >> This results in: >> >> E: libgd-tools: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath usr/bin/annotate >> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff5-alt > Yes, I'm afraid that's unavoidable. This issue is mentioned in the > README.Debian file. This works by installing th

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mo, 20 Mai 2013, Sune Vuorela wrote: > I really don't appreciate your tone here describing your fellow debian > developers who are putting a lot of work trying to make debian as a > whole as smooth as possible. I would really encourage you to try a > different attitude. It often helps. Thanks f

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Andreas, On Mo, 20 Mai 2013, Andreas Metzler wrote: > >> How should this work out? > [...] > > Hello, > Running in a pretty clean sid chroot I get this explantion: > -- > (SID)root@argenau:/# apt-get build-dep texlive-bin > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
Ondřej Surý wrote: > This results in: > > E: libgd-tools: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath usr/bin/annotate > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff5-alt > E: libgd-tools: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath usr/bin/gd2copypal > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff5-alt > E: libgd-tools: binary-or-shlib-defines-r

Re: Automated piuparts when entering the archive (Was: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-20 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 2013-05-21 02:14, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 01:21:41AM +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > > [...] > >> >> and requests migration to sid (via >> dcut-ng-ng migrate --to sid DPA://anbe/foo-bar) > > what's dcut-ng-ng ? Something hypothetical ... > It's my plan to add su

Re: Automated piuparts when entering the archive (Was: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-20 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 01:21:41AM +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: [...] > > and requests migration to sid (via > dcut-ng-ng migrate --to sid DPA://anbe/foo-bar) what's dcut-ng-ng ? dcut(1) from src:dput-ng is actually pretty easy to modify. Feel free to contribute[1] patches to play with new

Re: Automated piuparts when entering the archive (Was: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-20 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 2013-05-20 23:54, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Montag, 20. Mai 2013, Andreas Tille wrote: >> I vaguely remember this statement from about one year (+/-x). I wonder >> what would it help if everybody *should* but does not? If it should be >> done on any upload anyway (and close to nobody

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
This results in: E: libgd-tools: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath usr/bin/annotate /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff5-alt E: libgd-tools: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath usr/bin/gd2copypal /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff5-alt E: libgd-tools: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath usr/bin/gd2togif /usr/lib/x86

Re: Automated piuparts when entering the archive (Was: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
JFTR I would be more than happy to donate hardware, hosting and connectivity to Debian Project for automating piuparts checks before entering the archive. Ondrej. On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Montag, 20. Mai 2013, Andreas Tille wrote: >> I vaguely remember

Re: Automated piuparts when entering the archive (Was: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 20. Mai 2013, Andreas Tille wrote: > I vaguely remember this statement from about one year (+/-x). I wonder > what would it help if everybody *should* but does not? If it should be > done on any upload anyway (and close to nobody is really doing it) why > not automating this step?

Re: Automated piuparts when entering the archive (Was: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-20 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Holger, On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 02:01:40PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > > > 2. I would like to see these tests to be run BEFORE the package enters > > the archive, and failures would prevent the package to enter. > > very DD and DM should run piuparts before uploading. I vaguely remember t

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-05-20, Norbert Preining wrote: > Of course, RM will go hell for another embedded copy, but I don't give > a big cake of chocolate or so for that. Hi. I really don't appreciate your tone here describing your fellow debian developers who are putting a lot of work trying to make debian as a

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
Norbert Preining wrote: > On Di, 21 Mai 2013, Norbert Preining wrote: >> > >> libgd2-xpm-dev | libgd2-noxpm-dev => libtiff5-dev >> > >> libgs-dev => libtiff4-dev > ... >> DOes that mean now that I have to wait a few months until >> I can again build texlive-bin? > > We

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
Andreas Metzler wrote: > I think the proper fix for the time being (until a proper transition > to tiff5 is started) is to ask the libgd-dev maintainer to switch back > to libtiff4-dev. Or to ask the libgd-dev maintainer to switch to libtiff5-alt-dev. I may be wrong, but I think gd requires tif

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Mon, 2013-05-20 at 19:02 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Adam D. Barratt > wrote: > > Or that gd needs to not tie its own transition to libtiff, and should go > > back to using libtiff4 until we're ready to do the tiff transition. > > JFTR I have no problem doing t

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > Or that gd needs to not tie its own transition to libtiff, and should go > back to using libtiff4 until we're ready to do the tiff transition. JFTR I have no problem doing that, I didn't have any particular reason to update to tiff 4.x. I

Debian systemd survey

2013-05-20 Thread Michael Stapelberg
Hello, In the past, we have had multiple heated discussions involving systemd. We (the pkg-systemd-maintainers team) would like to better understand why some people dislike systemd. Therefore, we have created a survey, which you can find at http://survey.zekjur.net/index.php/391182 Please only s

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Russ Allbery
"Adam D. Barratt" writes: > On 2013-05-20 17:09, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Norbert Preining writes: >>> On Mo, 20 Mai 2013, Jay Berkenbilt wrote: >> The build deps that I have are: >> libgd2-xpm-dev | libgd2-noxpm-dev => libtiff5-dev >> libgs-dev => libtiff4-dev >> How

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On 2013-05-20 17:09, Russ Allbery wrote: Norbert Preining writes: On Mo, 20 Mai 2013, Jay Berkenbilt wrote: The build deps that I have are: libgd2-xpm-dev | libgd2-noxpm-dev => libtiff5-dev libgs-dev => libtiff4-dev How should this work out? The situation is tha

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Norbert Preining
On Di, 21 Mai 2013, Norbert Preining wrote: > > think there are several options shy of waiting for a few months, such as > > making sure there's a bug filed against ghostscript about this problem > > Sure, I have enough to do with 4Gb of TeX packages that are rotating > in the queues ... thanks ..

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2013-05-20 Norbert Preining wrote: > Including the maintainer of libtiff* > On Mo, 20 Mai 2013, Norbert Preining wrote: >> when trying to build a new release of telxive-bin fixing a nasty bug >> alas, I cannot build anymore: >> The following packages have unmet dependencies: >> libtiff4-dev :

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mo, 20 Mai 2013, Russ Allbery wrote: > It means that ghostscript needs to be updated to do what Jay says. I yeah. > think there are several options shy of waiting for a few months, such as > making sure there's a bug filed against ghostscript about this problem Sure, I have enough to do with

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Norbert Preining writes: > On Mo, 20 Mai 2013, Jay Berkenbilt wrote: The build deps that I have are: libgd2-xpm-dev | libgd2-noxpm-dev => libtiff5-dev libgs-dev => libtiff4-dev How should this work out? >> The situation is that you can't have both libtiff4-d

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Norbert Preining
On Di, 21 Mai 2013, Norbert Preining wrote: > > >> libgd2-xpm-dev | libgd2-noxpm-dev => libtiff5-dev > > >> libgs-dev => libtiff4-dev ... > DOes that mean now that I have to wait a few months until > I can again build texlive-bin? Well, I goes I will include the copy of libgd again i

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Jay, On Mo, 20 Mai 2013, Jay Berkenbilt wrote: > >> The build deps that I have are: > >>libgd2-xpm-dev | libgd2-noxpm-dev => libtiff5-dev > >>libgs-dev => libtiff4-dev > >> How should this work out? > > The situation is that you can't have both libtiff4-dev and libtiff5-dev

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
Norbert Preining wrote: > Including the maintainer of libtiff* Thanks! I'm not currently subscribed to debian-devel, but please feel free to keep me on this thread. > On Mo, 20 Mai 2013, Norbert Preining wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> when trying to build a new release of telxive-bin fixing a n

Re: libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Norbert Preining
Including the maintainer of libtiff* On Mo, 20 Mai 2013, Norbert Preining wrote: > Hi everyone, > > when trying to build a new release of telxive-bin fixing a nasty bug > alas, I cannot build anymore: > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > libtiff4-dev : Conflicts: libtiff5-dev but

libtiff borken - cannot build anymore?

2013-05-20 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi everyone, when trying to build a new release of telxive-bin fixing a nasty bug alas, I cannot build anymore: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libtiff4-dev : Conflicts: libtiff5-dev but 4.0.2-6 is to be installed. libtiff5-dev : Conflicts: libtiff4-dev but 3.9.6-11 is to be inst

Bug#709059: ITP: tika -- Apache Tika - Content analysis toolkit

2013-05-20 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Emmanuel Bourg * Package name: tika Version : 1.3 Upstream Author : The Apache Software Foundation * URL : http://tika.apache.org * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Java Description : Apache Tika - Content a

Algorithm for selecting between packages providing the same phpapi-20100525, change between squeeze -> wheezy

2013-05-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi, I am just curious about the selection mechanism in apt(itude), something has changed between squeeze and wheezy. When I was noticed by a user that libapache2-mod-php5filter is installed by default when phpapi-20100525 (f.e. try installing php5-mysql in squeeze and wheezy). squeeze: # apt-get

Bug#709049: ITP: libnet-smtps-perl -- SSL/STARTTLS support for Net::SMTP

2013-05-20 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: wnpp Owner: gregor herrmann Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libnet-smtps-perl Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Tomo.M * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Net-SMTPS/ * License

Re: Upgrade path from experimental to unstable

2013-05-20 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-05-20, Ondřej Surý wrote: > Since the state of Debian experimental is well "experimental", should > we care about upgrade paths from experimental to unstable? I am > inclined to say "no", but I would like to hear opinion of other > developers. It depends if you believe you have users or n

Processed: found coffee (was found workaround)

2013-05-20 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 708858 xserver-xorg-video-nouveau Bug #708858 {Done: Andrei POPESCU } [general] Installation: Screen and keyboard freeze (but not mouse) right after login on post-install Debian Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'xserver-xorg-vid

Re: Upgrade path from experimental to unstable

2013-05-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 20, Ondřej Surý wrote: > Since the state of Debian experimental is well "experimental", should > we care about upgrade paths from experimental to unstable? I am > inclined to say "no", but I would like to hear opinion of other > developers. Indeed, no. If there is a risk of something crash

Upgrade path from experimental to unstable

2013-05-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi, I haven't been able to find anything on that in policy, so I have a question... Since the state of Debian experimental is well "experimental", should we care about upgrade paths from experimental to unstable? I am inclined to say "no", but I would like to hear opinion of other developers. Sp

Re: Automated piuparts when entering the archive (Was: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Ondřej, On Montag, 20. Mai 2013, Ondřej Surý wrote: > Nope, I know about piuparts, but: > > 1. some packages and some transitions are more complicated. Bundle > db4.7->db5.3 transition with cyrus-imapd-2.2->cyrus-imapd-2.4 and I am > quite sure that "installation in sid" is not enough. do yo

Bug#708858: Found a workaround

2013-05-20 Thread Holger Levsen
reassign xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 708858 thanks Hi, On Montag, 20. Mai 2013, Gobiel wrote: > It turns out it was related to nouveau driver (ie to my graphic card, which > is bi-gpu). I could "make it work" for the time I installed proper nvidia > driver by adding "nomodeset" at the end of the k

Bug#708858: marked as done (Installation: Screen and keyboard freeze (but not mouse) right after login on post-install Debian)

2013-05-20 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Mon, 20 May 2013 11:52:55 +0300 with message-id <20130520085255.GL3895@sid.nuvreauspam> and subject line Re: Bug#708858: Found a workaround has caused the Debian Bug report #708858, regarding Installation: Screen and keyboard freeze (but not mouse) right after login on post-inst

Bug#708858: Found a workaround

2013-05-20 Thread Gobiel
It turns out it was related to nouveau driver (ie to my graphic card, which is bi-gpu). I could "make it work" for the time I installed proper nvidia driver by adding "nomodeset" at the end of the kernel line each time I started my computer. It seems the installation already has this option set, ex