Re: Bug#433143: ITP: bzr-rebase -- Rebase plugin for Bazaar

2007-07-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:14:06 +1000, Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 09:11 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:19:59 +1000, Robert Collins >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > * rename the 'bazaar' package to 'baz' - both source and binary, >

Re: Bug#433143: ITP: bzr-rebase -- Rebase plugin for Bazaar

2007-07-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:38:43 +1000, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> bzr is an inplementation of Arch, and there are people who have not >> bought the 'Bazaar VCS Project' koolaid, and still prefer Arch to the >> new VCS. > 'bzr' is not an im

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Joe Smith
"Don Armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So it seems like we should do the following: 1. Make changes to the menu system to use .desktop files in preference to .menu files when they exist 2. Generate .desktop files from .menu files using the menu system when

Re: Bug#433143: ITP: bzr-rebase -- Rebase plugin for Bazaar

2007-07-17 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 09:11 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:19:59 +1000, Robert Collins > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > * rename the 'bazaar' package to 'baz' - both source and binary, > >though binary is the key one. This is because it is no longer the > >reco

Re: Bug#433143: ITP: bzr-rebase -- Rebase plugin for Bazaar

2007-07-17 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 19:56 +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Manoj Srivastava [Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:11:45 -0500]: > > > > * Create a 'bazaar' package which is a metapackage depending on bzr, > > > recommending key plugins, and suggesting others. > > > This would be a bug. While I understa

Re: Bug#433472: ITP: dirbuster -- Directory & file brute forcing, with a twist

2007-07-17 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 01:46:03PM +0100, Tim Brown wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Tim Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: dirbuster > Version : 0.9.7 > Upstream Author : James Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://sourceforge.net/p

Re: Bug#433143: ITP: bzr-rebase -- Rebase plugin for Bazaar

2007-07-17 Thread Ben Finney
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > bzr is an inplementation of Arch, and there are people who have not > bought the 'Bazaar VCS Project' koolaid, and still prefer Arch to > the new VCS. 'bzr' is not an implementation of Arch. At best, it is strongly inspired by work the developers

Bug#433566: ITP: cryptkeeper -- encfs system tray applet for GNOME

2007-07-17 Thread Francesco Namuri
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Francesco Namuri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: cryptkeeper Version : 0.7.666 Upstream Author : Tom Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.tomatarium.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/cryptkeeper.html * License : GPL Pro

Re: Bug#433143: ITP: bzr-rebase -- Rebase plugin for Bazaar

2007-07-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:56:05 +0200, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > * Manoj Srivastava [Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:11:45 -0500]: >> > * Create a 'bazaar' package which is a metapackage depending on >> >bzr, >> > recommending key plugins, and suggesting others. >> This would be a bug. Wh

Re: Bug#433555: ITP: cnijfilter -- Canon inkjet printer drivers for CUPS

2007-07-17 Thread Evgeni Golov
Hi Nikolaus, On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:31:29 +0200 Nikolaus Schulz wrote: > * Package name: cnijfilter > Version : 2.70 > Upstream Author : Canon Inc. > * URL : http://cweb.canon.jp/drv-upd/bj/other.html > * License : partly GPL, partly non-free > Description

Bug#433555: ITP: cnijfilter -- Canon inkjet printer drivers for CUPS

2007-07-17 Thread Nikolaus Schulz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Nikolaus Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: cnijfilter Version : 2.70 Upstream Author : Canon Inc. * URL : http://cweb.canon.jp/drv-upd/bj/other.html * License : part

Re: Bug#433143: ITP: bzr-rebase -- Rebase plugin for Bazaar

2007-07-17 Thread Steve Greenland
On 17-Jul-07, 12:56 (CDT), Adeodato Sim?? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Manoj Srivastava [Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:11:45 -0500]: > > > > * Create a 'bazaar' package which is a metapackage depending on bzr, > > > recommending key plugins, and suggesting others. > > > This would be a bug. Wh

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 17 juillet 2007 à 09:36 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : > Le lundi 16 juillet 2007 à 20:44 +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña a > écrit : > > It looks to me like they are properly categorised and its the GNOME menu > > which is misbehaving > > I have indeed to back out my previous cl

Re: Any problems with mips/mipsel?

2007-07-17 Thread Oleksandr Moskalenko
* Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-07-17 12:06:19 +0200]: > Oleksandr Moskalenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > * Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-07-05 13:01:36 +0200]: > > > >> You should check http://buildd.debian.org/ which will tell you that > >> both attempted to

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Steve Greenland
On 17-Jul-07, 10:33 (CDT), Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that we would be able to better serve our users if we removed > useless and/or unmaintained and/or buggy software from our archive. Those three things are not comparable. "Unmaintained" and "buggy" are, to at least so

Bug#433535: ITP: libset-nestedgroups-perl -- Simple implementation of nested groups

2007-07-17 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libset-nestedgroups-perl Version : 0.01 Upstream Author : Alan Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Set * License : Artistic + GPL Pro

Re: Bug#433143: ITP: bzr-rebase -- Rebase plugin for Bazaar

2007-07-17 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Manoj Srivastava [Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:11:45 -0500]: > > * Create a 'bazaar' package which is a metapackage depending on bzr, > > recommending key plugins, and suggesting others. > This would be a bug. While I understand you prefer the bzr VCS > over Arch, I see no justification for i

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 09:02:33AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > How easy is it for users to add/remove the debian menu hierarchy > to their GNOME menus? Very easy (if using alacarte). Not possible if using the barebones menu editor (the one you get with gnome-core, don't know the ap

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Frank Küster
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> When others say that they *do* find those >> entries useful, you say that well, we're not the important users, and >> our use of those menu entries is irrelevant, and we can work around the >> inconvenience. > > Well, if the maintainers have the extra

Re: Co-Maintainer for libdbi-perl wanted

2007-07-17 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Raphael Hertzog dijo [Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 10:37:47AM +0200]: > You could integrate the package in the pkg-perl repository and you'd have > lots of co-maintainers for free. :-) > > http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org > > Other interested co-maintainers which are not yet part of the pkg-perl team >

Re: Can we require build-arch/indep targets for lenny?

2007-07-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Based on the arguments I've seen so far, I'm opposed to using the >> package's Standards-Version for this purpose. I think it conflates >> different meanings of that field and will get us into serious t

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 17 juillet 2007 à 09:02 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : > How easy is it for users to add/remove the debian menu hierarchy > to their GNOME menus? Can different users on the same machine have > different customized menus easily? * Right-click on the main menu * Cl

Re: FTBFS if built twice in a row

2007-07-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Not if you use pdebuild or similarly build in a chroot, which IMO >> everyone should be doing. > I use xen instances and that changes nothing at all. > 1. My ~/src is mounted inside the build environme

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 17 juillet 2007 à 08:50 -0500, Steve Greenland a écrit : > > If you have nothing to say apart proving that you don't want to > > understand what people write, what's the point of contributing to a > > mailing list? > > You keep saying that because you don't use particular menu entries, an

Re: debdelta service back on track

2007-07-17 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 11:23:53AM +0200, A Mennucc wrote: > The problem was due to a subtle change in zlib1g: in newer versions, the > compressed output has 0x02 instead of 0x00 at the 10th byte (that is in > the header). This change occurred somewhere between version 1.2.3-13 and > 1.2.3.3.dfsg-

Re: Bug#433143: ITP: bzr-rebase -- Rebase plugin for Bazaar

2007-07-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:19:59 +1000, Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > * rename the 'bazaar' package to 'baz' - both source and binary, >though binary is the key one. This is because it is no longer the >recommended tool from the 'Bazaar VCS Project' rather it is >deprecate

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:01:19 +0200, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Le mardi 17 juillet 2007 à 14:35 +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña > a écrit : >> Please note that 'alacarte' is not part of gnome-core. I'm not very >> into GNOME but a *different* application seems to get execu

Re: Bug#433143: ITP: bzr-rebase -- Rebase plugin for Bazaar

2007-07-17 Thread Steve Greenland
On 17-Jul-07, 05:19 (CDT), Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd like to do the following: > > * rename the 'bazaar' package to 'baz' - both source and binary, though > binary is the key one. This is because it is no longer the recommended > tool from the 'Bazaar VCS Project' rather

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Steve Greenland
On 17-Jul-07, 02:05 (CDT), Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le lundi 16 juillet 2007 ? 19:08 -0500, Steve Greenland a ?crit : > > > Some of the users we target don't even know what a window manager is, > > > and they don't want to know it. > > > > Some of the users we target don't us

Bug#433472: ITP: dirbuster -- Directory & file brute forcing, with a twist

2007-07-17 Thread Tim Brown
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tim Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: dirbuster Version : 0.9.7 Upstream Author : James Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/dirbuster/ * License : LGPL Programming Lang: Java Desc

Bug#433467: ITP: xorp -- eXtensible Open Router Platform

2007-07-17 Thread Jose Calhariz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jose Calhariz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: xorp Version : 1.4 Upstream Author : International Computer Science Institute in Berkeley * URL : http://www.xorp.org * License : BSD Like Programming Lang: C++ Descrip

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 09:36:53AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 16 juillet 2007 à 20:44 +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña a > écrit : > > It looks to me like they are properly categorised and its the GNOME menu > > which is misbehaving > > I have indeed to back out my previous cla

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 17 juillet 2007 à 14:35 +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña a écrit : > Please note that 'alacarte' is not part of gnome-core. I'm not very into > GNOME but a *different* application seems to get executed for editing menus > if you don't have the 'gnome-desktop-environment' meta-package

Re: NMU's for non RC bugs

2007-07-17 Thread Luk Claes
Neil Williams wrote: > In the process of fixing one RC bug (#359299) in order to fix another > (#289668) I am testing a possible fix for two other related bugs in the > first package (g-wrap) : 428800 and 383049 (just merged). > > The related bug is currently only normal severity: > "g-wrap binary

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 09:42:48AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Okay, as long as it can easily be configured, I see no problem in > > disabling it by default. But there should be either a prominent menu > > entry which is easy to find, or a README.Debian in an obvious package. > > If disabl

Re: NMU's for non RC bugs

2007-07-17 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 12:27:18PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > Everyone else: If Andreas does not respond, is there any way of fixing > 428800 and 383049? Are the issues worth an RC bug anyway? For non-RC bugs, the normal (ie. non-0-day) NMU policy applies, as outlined in the Developer's referen

NMU's for non RC bugs

2007-07-17 Thread Neil Williams
In the process of fixing one RC bug (#359299) in order to fix another (#289668) I am testing a possible fix for two other related bugs in the first package (g-wrap) : 428800 and 383049 (just merged). The related bug is currently only normal severity: "g-wrap binary package depends on libgwrap-runt

Re: nepenthes_0.2.0-1(hppa/experimental): FTBFS: tries to use static library compiled without -fPIC

2007-07-17 Thread Jan Wagner
Hi Luciano, On Wednesday 20 June 2007 19:15, Luciano Bello wrote: > I need your opinion and comments about: http://bugs.debian.org/399892 > Nepenthes has a module (modulehoneytrap.so) linked with libipq (IPQ > library for userspace), which is part of iptables-dev. Libipq looks like it

Re: Any problems with mips/mipsel?

2007-07-17 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 01:03:09PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Mark Brown] > > Did you do this by mailing debian-admin or by using the request > > tracker[1]? Requests sent via RT should have less chance of being > > missed. > Perhaps the link https://rt.debian.org/?user=guest&pass=reado

Re: Any problems with mips/mipsel?

2007-07-17 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Mark Brown] > Did you do this by mailing debian-admin or by using the request > tracker[1]? Requests sent via RT should have less chance of being > missed. Perhaps the link https://rt.debian.org/?user=guest&pass=readonly > should be made more easily available on the Debian pages? Happy hacking

Re: Upstream-only version dependency in debian/control

2007-07-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Julian Andres Klode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How about: > Depends: foo (>= 1.2.3), foo (<< 1.2.4~) > or > Depends: foo (>= 1.2.3), foo (<< 1.2.3.0~) > > Julian % dpkg --compare-versions 1.2.3.0 ">>" 1.2.3a && echo yes yes Upstream might go crazy and add a text string to the verion. Or no

Re: Bug#433143: ITP: bzr-rebase -- Rebase plugin for Bazaar

2007-07-17 Thread Robert Collins
On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 00:28 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I don't want to see a bzr-foo package in the archive for each .py module > available on the internet which provides yet another sub-command for > bzr. I asked under the (wrong) assumption that bzrtools was a Debian > package shipping

Re: RFC: declaritive diversions

2007-07-17 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 11:55 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Did you see my earlier mail about the very same thing? No I didn't, sorry. I'm glad the concept seems to have positive reactions regardless. -Rob -- GPG key available at: . signature.asc D

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 10:57:10PM +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote: > Maybe the Debian menu file format should follow the freedesktop.org > specification too and contain something like: > NoDisplay=true > X-Debian_only=true > to show, that the item should only appear in the Debian menu. Argh. I real

Re: Any problems with mips/mipsel?

2007-07-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Oleksandr Moskalenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-07-05 13:01:36 +0200]: > >> You should check http://buildd.debian.org/ which will tell you that >> both attempted to build your package but failed. Looks like a toolchain >> issue to me. You could ask

Re: file mounted after debootstrap + udev

2007-07-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hi, > > I've been using debootstrap to produce my live linux based on debian > 2.6.18 . > At first, my system was built with devfs and everything was fine . > Recently, i moved to udev (i added kernel support + udev package) and > although the live linux works just fin

Re: RFC: declaritive diversions

2007-07-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ian and I have chatted a few times about diversions in packages. It > seems like it would be easier to look for packages that should divert > (and don't), or do (and perhaps shouldn't :)) if the diversions were > declared in the package rather than bein

Re: FTBFS if built twice in a row

2007-07-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Lucas Nussbaum] >> The problem is that it isn't required to have exactly the same source >> tree after "./configure ; make ; make clean". It's just required that >> "./configure ; make ; make clean ; ./configure ; make" works. It is >> possible that t

Re: FTBFS if built twice in a row

2007-07-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> This check would fail many packages that can still be built twice in a >>> row (any package that runs autotools during the build process without >>> doing a

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Frank Küster
Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank Küster wrote: >> Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> for all the reason already given: >>> - It duplicates entries (so it's potentially confusing for novice users) >> >> That's a point. > > That's *the* point in my opinion. Duplicated

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Frank Küster
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le mardi 17 juillet 2007 à 08:52 +0200, Frank Küster a écrit : >> > I actually do like Don's idea. >> > The first thing I usually do, after installing KDE or Gnome is to >> > disable the Debian menu in /etc/xdg/menus/(gnome,kde)-applications.menu, >>

Re: Can we require build-arch/indep targets for lenny?

2007-07-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I'm tempted to suggest _just_ going by the package's Standards-Version. > > Based on the arguments I've seen so far, I'm opposed to using the > package's Standards-Version for this purpose. I think it conflates > different meanings of that field and wil

Re: Bug#229357: Can we require build-arch/indep targets for lenny?

2007-07-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 11:11:04PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: >> One of the issue is that tools like sbuild and pbuilder which want to >> take advantage of the Build-Depends-Indep split needs to know whether >> dpkg-buildpackage will call debian/rule

debdelta service back on track

2007-07-17 Thread A Mennucc
hi all, about two weeks ago 'debdelta-upgrade' started failing. Unfortunately I was away with (almost) no Internet access. Today I could finally fix the problem. The problem was due to a subtle change in zlib1g: in newer versions, the compressed output has 0x02 instead of 0x00 at the 10th byte (

Re: patch for versioned symbols in Heimdal shared library

2007-07-17 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 21:28:17 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I do this in configure.ac: > > dnl If and only if we're on Linux, use a mapfile to do symbol versioning. > dnl We'd like to do this on all platforms, but the syntax is different > dnl everywhere and I don't feel like dealing with the

Re: Any problems with mips/mipsel?

2007-07-17 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 12:53:05AM -0600, Oleksandr Moskalenko wrote: > show uninformative assembler failure messages. I also made several unanswered > requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for build-depends installation on > any developer accessible mips/mipsel machine to try looking at the build to > fi

Upgrade kernel loses DVB devices

2007-07-17 Thread Brendon Higgins
Hi list, I have here a problem that I solved. I have no idea who I should report it to, so I'm posting it here in the hope that, eventually, someone relevent might see it. I'm running testing. After upgrading to kernel 2.6.21-2 my DVB device files disappeared. It turns out that a required modu

Re: Co-Maintainer for libdbi-perl wanted

2007-07-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Christian Hammers wrote: > I'm looking for a co-maintainer of libdbi-perl. It's a very low-work package > that just sometimes fails to build on some architecture. You could integrate the package in the pkg-perl repository and you'd have lots of co-maintainers for free. :-

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 17 juillet 2007 à 08:52 +0200, Frank Küster a écrit : > > I actually do like Don's idea. > > The first thing I usually do, after installing KDE or Gnome is to > > disable the Debian menu in /etc/xdg/menus/(gnome,kde)-applications.menu, > > Okay, as long as it can easily be configured, I s

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 16 juillet 2007 à 20:44 +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña a écrit : > It looks to me like they are properly categorised and its the GNOME menu > which is misbehaving I have indeed to back out my previous claim. I'm going to work on fixing this issue in gnome-menus. -- .''`. : :' :

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: Fine with me if it's easy to add an installed window manager to the menu, but I do agree with the general point here that it's quite useless to build a menu with those options for every user by default. ... which speaks for a role based user concept.

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Bastian Venthur
Frank Küster wrote: > Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> for all the reason already given: >> - It duplicates entries (so it's potentially confusing for novice users) > > That's a point. That's *the* point in my opinion. Duplicated entries are confusing and therefore not user-friendly.

Re: Any problems with mips/mipsel?

2007-07-17 Thread Oleksandr Moskalenko
* Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-07-05 13:01:36 +0200]: > You should check http://buildd.debian.org/ which will tell you that > both attempted to build your package but failed. Looks like a toolchain > issue to me. You could ask on @buildd.debian.org to retry the > package. Or you cou

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tuesday 17 July 2007 02:08, Steve Greenland wrote: > Some of the users we target don't use any desktop environment, running > headless servers. So let's remove KDE and GNOME. This problem is about defaults, not about removing things entirely. Appearently every user gets menu items for all inst

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-17 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 16 juillet 2007 à 19:08 -0500, Steve Greenland a écrit : > > Some of the users we target don't even know what a window manager is, > > and they don't want to know it. > > Some of the users we target don't use any desktop environment, running > headless servers. So let's remove KDE and GNO