Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-31 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 10:32:09PM -0700, Bruce Sass wrote: > On Tue October 31 2006 21:15, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > Bruce Sass wrote: > > > I have yet to see a spam message sent to the BTS which used a > > > "Package:" pseudoheader, so that should work to eliminate BTS spam > > > without prev

Re: "Arch: all" package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-10-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 08:02:22AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > While I fully agree with you on all points, I think that this should be > discussed post-etch with the general question of "in which environment > are packages supposed to build ?". There are other similar issue, like: > - should pac

Re: "Arch: all" package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-10-31 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
(Cced the relevant bug report) On 31/10/06 at 23:50 -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > Some packages (e.g choose-mirror) fetch a newer version of a file during > > build if it's possible to fetch that file. I don't think this is RC, > > since the file is not missing fr

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-31 Thread Bruce Sass
On Tue October 31 2006 23:02, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Bruce Sass wrote: > > On Tue October 31 2006 21:15, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > > Bruce Sass wrote: > > > > I have yet to see a spam message sent to the BTS which used a > > > > "Package:" pseudoheader, so that should work

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-31 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Bruce Sass wrote: > On Tue October 31 2006 21:15, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > Bruce Sass wrote: > > > I have yet to see a spam message sent to the BTS which used a > > > "Package:" pseudoheader, so that should work to eliminate BTS spam > > > without preventing non-DD's helpi

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-31 Thread Bruce Sass
On Tue October 31 2006 21:15, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > Bruce Sass wrote: > > I have yet to see a spam message sent to the BTS which used a > > "Package:" pseudoheader, so that should work to eliminate BTS spam > > without preventing non-DD's helping out. > > OTOH, a /lot/ of legitimate mail is s

Re: "Arch: all" package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-10-31 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Some packages (e.g choose-mirror) fetch a newer version of a file during > build if it's possible to fetch that file. I don't think this is RC, > since the file is not missing from the package if the network is not > available. > In general, I strongly suspect that fetc

Re: Bug#396117: ITP: cpufreq-detect -- detect CPU frequency control driver

2006-10-31 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Peter Palfrader wrote: > How come it never outputs p4_clockmod? I use that happily on several > different machines. > I can confirm I've tried it on a machine. The performance impact was substantial (at least if I allowed it to go to its lowest speed); the power consumption difference was imme

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-31 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Bruce Sass wrote: > I have yet to see a spam message sent to the BTS which used a "Package:" > pseudoheader, so that should work to eliminate BTS spam without > preventing non-DD's helping out. > OTOH, a /lot/ of legitimate mail is sent to the BTS w/o a Package: pseudo-header (think: pretty mu

Re: "Arch: all" package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-10-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 07:57:51PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Interactive tests or tests requiring network access should not have to > > pass in order to build a package. > What about tests that only require localhost be available? I'd been > puzz

Re: libXft1 for xorg...

2006-10-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 11:55:16AM -0600, Jacques Normand wrote: > During the passage from xfree to xorg, libxft1 has been dropped in favor > of libXft2. I have no problem with that except that libXft1 is not > installable anymore (etch system). It depend on the old xfree packages. > It is a pr

Re: libXft1 for xorg...

2006-10-31 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 11:55:16AM -0600, Jacques Normand wrote: > Hi, > > During the passage from xfree to xorg, libxft1 has been dropped in favor > of libXft2. I have no problem with that except that libXft1 is not > installable anymore (etch system). It depend on the old xfree packages. > >

Bug#396468: ITP: kwin-style-knifty -- knifty window decoration for KDE

2006-10-31 Thread Emmanuel Bouthenot
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Emmanuel Bouthenot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: kwin-style-knifty Version : 0.4.2 Upstream Author : Sandro Giessl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=8841 * License : GPL P

Re: ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc

2006-10-31 Thread Joey Hess
Alex Pennace wrote: > > piper:/etc> sudo find /etc -path /etc/alternatives -prune -o -type l > > -exec readlink -f {} \; | egrep -v '^/etc' | wc -l > > I'm surprised your report missed one of the most established > configuration symlinks of them all: /etc/localtime. I was more suprised that i

Re: /etc/localtime (was: Re: ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc)

2006-10-31 Thread Alex Pennace
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 05:22:27PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Alex Pennace wrote: > > I'm surprised your report missed one of the most established > > configuration symlinks of them all: /etc/localtime. I'm pointing that > > out in particular because it has bee

Re: ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc

2006-10-31 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 31 October 2006 21:03, Stephen Frost wrote: > If they expire then they should be updated by the package. One does > not generally modify issued certificates. If the package isn't > handling certificate expiration then the point of having them packaged > at all pretty much goes away. I

/etc/localtime (was: Re: ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc)

2006-10-31 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Alex Pennace wrote: > I'm surprised your report missed one of the most established > configuration symlinks of them all: /etc/localtime. I'm pointing that > out in particular because it has been around for as long as I can > remember, and serves its configuration function by po

Re: ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc

2006-10-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 07:10:45PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > The recent ca-certificates upgrade overwrote this "configuration" > simply because my /bin/cat call actually changed a file in > /usr/share, where changes by the admin are not preserved. Yet, due > to the links in /etc/ssl/certs, th

Re: ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc

2006-10-31 Thread Stephen Frost
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > also sprach Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.31.2016 +0100]: > > In all of these cases the files pointed to are not intended to be > > modified but what file is used can be configured. > > How are certificate files not intended to be modifie

Re: ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc

2006-10-31 Thread Alex Pennace
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 08:32:49PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.31.2016 +0100]: > > In all of these cases the files pointed to are not intended to be > > modified but what file is used can be configured. > > How are certificate files not in

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-31 Thread Blars Blarson
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 02:51:20PM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: > Isn't there a risk of causing double work? > > Person A reports spam, Blars removes it > Person B reports the same spam, Blars checks again - no spam found My script to clean bugs checks to see if the bug has been cleaned since th

Re: ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc

2006-10-31 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 08:32:49PM +0100, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.31.2016 +0100]: > > In all of these cases the files pointed to are not intended to be > > modified but what file is used can be configured. > > How are cer

Re: ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc

2006-10-31 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.31.2016 +0100]: > In all of these cases the files pointed to are not intended to be > modified but what file is used can be configured. How are certificate files not intended to be modified? If they expire? If they are incomplete? -- Please

Re: ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc

2006-10-31 Thread md
On Oct 31, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I consider this a bug, and even release-critical, and would say that > ca-certificates should use ucf to maintain the certificates in I don't. I think that symlinks to files somewhere are a good way to solve this specific problem. > /etc/ssl

Re: ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc

2006-10-31 Thread Agustin Martin
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 07:54:02PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > > > cat /the/best/dictionary >> /etc/dictionaries-common/words > > I don't see the reason why /etc/dictionaries-common/words should be > a symlink either. The right way to solve this would be to use > alternatives and provide a se

Re: ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc

2006-10-31 Thread Stephen Frost
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > also sprach Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.31.1948 +0100]: > > cat /my/favorite/editor >> /etc/alternatives/vi > > alternatives are surely an exception, don't you think? > > > cat /the/best/dictionary >> /etc/dictionaries-common/words >

Re: ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc

2006-10-31 Thread Alex Pennace
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 07:41:02PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > I am fully aware of this. However, it's misleading, don't you think? I cannot answer that from the average user perspective. However, symlinks are quite handy and there is already an established base of users who are familiar with

Re: ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc

2006-10-31 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.31.1948 +0100]: > cat /my/favorite/editor >> /etc/alternatives/vi alternatives are surely an exception, don't you think? > cat /the/best/dictionary >> /etc/dictionaries-common/words I don't see the reason why /etc/dictionaries-common/words s

Re: ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc

2006-10-31 Thread Stephen Frost
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Since #350282 is still being discussed, I ended up doing > > cat /etc/ssl/certs/cacert-class3.pem >> /etc/ssl/certs/cacert.pem > > on systems that needed access to all of CACert's certificates. cat /my/favorite/editor >> /etc/alternatives/vi cat /

Re: ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc

2006-10-31 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Alex Pennace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.31.1917 +0100]: > The configuration being preserved is a set of symlinks, not the > contents of their targets. I am fully aware of this. However, it's misleading, don't you think? It's just not very typical for symlinks in /etc to be considered

Re: ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc

2006-10-31 Thread Alex Pennace
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 07:10:45PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > Since #350282 is still being discussed, I ended up doing > > cat /etc/ssl/certs/cacert-class3.pem >> /etc/ssl/certs/cacert.pem > > on systems that needed access to all of CACert's certificates. > > The recent ca-certificates up

ca-certificates symlinks out of /etc

2006-10-31 Thread martin f krafft
ca-certificates installs about 100 certificates into /etc/ssl/certs. However, these are not actually dropped into the directory; instead, symlinks into /usr/share are put in place: piper:/etc/ssl/certs# ls -la /etc/ssl/certs/cacert.org.pem lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 52 2006-10-31 18:56 /etc/ssl/certs/

Re: libXft1 for xorg...

2006-10-31 Thread Jacques Normand
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 11:55:16AM -0600, Jacques Normand wrote: > During the passage from xfree to xorg, libxft1 has been dropped in favor > of libXft2. I have no problem with that except that libXft1 is not > installable anymore (etch system). It depend on the old xfree packages. > > It is a p

libXft1 for xorg...

2006-10-31 Thread Jacques Normand
Hi, During the passage from xfree to xorg, libxft1 has been dropped in favor of libXft2. I have no problem with that except that libXft1 is not installable anymore (etch system). It depend on the old xfree packages. It is a problem since I have a few executables which link to this library at ru

Re: "Arch: all" package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-10-31 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Interactive tests or tests requiring network access should not have to >> pass in order to build a package. > > What about tests that only require localhost be available? I'd been > puzzling over that for a

Resume

2006-10-31 Thread resume
Found your resume on the Internet last night. I don't know if you are looking, but I was wondering if you might know of someone who is looking. I'm searching for candidates for openings that I have in Ohio and throughout the country. Hopefully there is someone that you can refer to me. I'm an in

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-31 Thread David Weinehall
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 11:24:06PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 12:46:46AM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña > wrote: > > BTW, could it be possible to provide an alternate interface to submit spam? > > (like the 'report-listspam AT lists.debian.org' we can bounce spam

Re: .ssh/authorized_keys on alioth is disappearing

2006-10-31 Thread Norbert Preining
On Die, 31 Okt 2006, Stephen Gran wrote: > http://wiki.debian.org/AliothFAQ > "Something deletes my ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file" Ahh, thanks. Interestingly I did see the following on http://wiki.debian.org/AliothSVN | The SSH keys are not synchronized between alioth.debian.org and | svn.debian.o

Re: On including 64-bit libs in 32-bit packages (see #344104)

2006-10-31 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Faidon Liambotis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Matthew Garrett wrote: >> Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 07:30:47PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: Bear in mind that the 64-bit kernel doesn't offer all the functionality that the 32-bit one does. vm86

Re: ps- sourcecode, task_struct

2006-10-31 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Joachim Graf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hallo, > > ich muss an der Uni ein Programm schreiben das alle Prozesse auflistet > welche ihr root-Verzeichnis (chroot) geändert haben. > > Meine Idee war ich nehme die Sourcen des ps-Kommandos und passe diese > meinen Erfordernissen an. > Geht aber nur

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-31 Thread Amaya
Hi, Hamish Hamish Moffatt wrote: > I wrote a trivial perl script to which I pipe in BTS spams from mutt; > it extracts the bug number from the Subject then runs the bts program. URL? ;) -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :

Re: .ssh/authorized_keys on alioth is disappearing

2006-10-31 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Norbert Preining said: > Hi all! > > Can someone explain me why the file > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys > is disappearing again and again on alioth.debian.org? Every day I have > to call ssh-copy-id or copy the key by hand ... http://wiki.debian.org/AliothFAQ "Someth

.ssh/authorized_keys on alioth is disappearing

2006-10-31 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi all! Can someone explain me why the file ~/.ssh/authorized_keys is disappearing again and again on alioth.debian.org? Every day I have to call ssh-copy-id or copy the key by hand ... Best wishes Norbert --- D

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-31 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 12:46:46AM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > BTW, could it be possible to provide an alternate interface to submit spam? > (like the 'report-listspam AT lists.debian.org' we can bounce spam from the > mailing lists to) Using the devscripts package you can "bts

Re: {SPAM} Re: "Arch: all" package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-10-31 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Seg, 2006-10-30 às 14:43 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG escreveu: > On Mon, 2006-10-30 at 12:53 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Keeping such tests in package builds is fine, but they should either be > > disabled by default (enabled with an environment variable, say), or they > > should be information

Re: Bug#396117: ITP: cpufreq-detect -- detect CPU frequency control driver

2006-10-31 Thread Per Olofsson
Peter Palfrader: > How come it never outputs p4_clockmod? I use that happily on several > different machines. It's disabled in Ubuntu with the following comment: # Disabled for now - the latency tends to be bad enough to make it # fairly pointless. # echo "FREQDRIVER=p4-clockmod" >/etc/default/p

ITP: prayer -- fast IMAP-based web mail system with few dependencies

2006-10-31 Thread Magnus Holmgren
retitle 392823 ITP: prayer -- fast IMAP-based web mail system with few dependencies owner 392823 Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thanks I've sent some questions and comments upstream. Most notably, * Prayer assumes that folders can't contain other folders, even if the IMAP server suppor