On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, Christian Perrier wrote:
That still leaves 20 ASCII characters which are supposedly at the same
place on all keyboards (to be checked, though).
I guess that there are other language keyboards around that leave us
only 5 or 6 characters to choose from. So what about giving
> Given that French keyboards have virtually no key at the "proper"
> place, that's quite hard to accomplish...
Evil Troll...:-)...let me jump into it.
The "only" keys in the ASCII set that are at different places in the
French keyboard are "a" "z" "q" "w" and "m". I added "y" to the list
becaus
Hello,
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006, Christian Aichinger wrote:
> As Steve Langasek detailed in his d-d-a mail[1], unnecessary
> dependencies cause lots of problems, as they make transitions
> bigger then they need to be.
Sorry for the noise. I wrote earlier to Christian Aichinger
(and submitted a report
--- Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
> When you do, the 'reportbug' tool (which you can install via aptitude
> if you don't already have it) will make it easy to report a bug to the
> Debian bug tracking system.
Jonas has already filed some bugs against gnash. To be honest, I don't know
Jonas Meurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 28/09/2006 Ben Finney wrote:
> > Excellent. You're getting more of an understanding of how to
> > reproduce this bug in your X server. I hope that soon you can
> > submit a bug report against the X server with a test case.
>
> i'm not able to reproduc
On 28/09/2006 Ben Finney wrote:
> Jonas Meurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On 26/09/2006 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > > That would be a bug in your X server. X servers should not crash
> > > no matter the client. :)
> >
> > ... my X server crashed a second time, this time at an artist at
This one time, at band camp, Tim Dijkstra said:
> Op Thu, 28 Sep 2006 00:00:28 +0100
> schreef Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Not that I actually object to the package, but why can't HAL let acpid
> > manage acpi events? I am continually confused by the profusion of
> > packages that off
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Well, users seeing q when typing a wouldn't continue typing anyway...
Unless they're one of the great many users who look at the keyboard,
rather than the monitor, while they type.
--
\ "I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anythin
Jonas Meurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 26/09/2006 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > That would be a bug in your X server. X servers should not crash
> > no matter the client. :)
>
> ... my X server crashed a second time, this time at an artist at
> myspace.com, which automaticly starts a fla
Op Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:04:40 +0200
schreef Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:41:01PM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:08:24PM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote:
> > > Provides simple shell command line tools to suspend and hibernate
> > > comp
Op Thu, 28 Sep 2006 00:00:28 +0100
schreef Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Not that I actually object to the package, but why can't HAL let acpid
> manage acpi events? I am continually confused by the profusion of
> packages that offer to work around acpid in order to provide the
> functional
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:41:01PM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:08:24PM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote:
> > Provides simple shell command line tools to suspend and hibernate
> > computer that can be used to run vendor or distro supplied scripts
> > on suspend and resum
This one time, at band camp, Tim Dijkstra said:
> Op Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:41:01 +0200
> schreef "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:08:24PM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote:
> > > Provides simple shell command line tools to suspend and hibernate
> > > computer that
Op Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:41:01 +0200
schreef "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:08:24PM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote:
> > Provides simple shell command line tools to suspend and hibernate
> > computer that can be used to run vendor or distro supplied scripts
> > on
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:08:24PM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote:
> Provides simple shell command line tools to suspend and hibernate
> computer that can be used to run vendor or distro supplied scripts
> on suspend and resume.
This is something like the fifth package in Debian that attempts to do thi
* gerhard oettl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-09-22 06:59]:
> Since updating to etch some weeks ago i was not able to print
> from firefox, because always letter format is requested on the
> printer panel. This happens independend of the input in the
> printer property fields in the printing dialog if
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Jon Dowland wrote:
> Hm. If you installed the gnome metapackage with aptitude,
> then the dependencies would be marked 'auto' and removed
> once you'd removed the manual package at the top of the
> tree.
Or you can just tasksel remove gnome-desktop; tasksel install kde-desktop
> Perhaps aptitude
ugh, somehow one of Thunderbird, Enigmail or my SMTP server mangled the
quoted part of my last email at Message-id:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, maybe also the GPG sig. Sorry about
that! Everything I wanted to say went through OK though.
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Kevin B. McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Physics Department
WWW:
to
> run it or not. That doesn't help the folks who aren't using debhelper =
as
> much, though.
But isn't the decision of the maintainer to use dh_striplibs orthogonal
to the need for a library not to be stripped? That is, some set of
libraries presumably shouldn't be stripped out of NEEDED ent
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On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 10:54:34AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > I'm not sure where to put it inside the -dev package though, perhaps
> > in an /usr/share/debhelper/stripdeps/ file?
>
> Well, if we're talking about an external tool to strip unnecessary NEEDED
> entries from the library, you could
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Christian Aichinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What I could imagine was some sort of opt-in system, where library
> maintainers could put a special marker into their -dev packages
> indicating "yes, please remove me if I'm not needed, it's save".
> I'm not sure where to put it inside the -dev
> Which reminds me [OT] that when I tried a d-i beta i've been deceived
> not to see the magic keyboard wizard i saw on the first ubuntu ; the one
> that asks to press some keys and guess the keyboard type based on that
> set of keys you typed.
Will probably be in the TODO list for post-etch but
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 06:15:39PM +0200, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> (from a discussion in -devel)
>
> > The hint to non US keyboard is *very* important. I would love if
> > *every* string a user (not a hacker) has to type at the boot prompt
> > would work on *any* keybord ac
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(from a discussion in -devel)
> The hint to non US keyboard is *very* important. I would love if
> *every* string a user (not a hacker) has to type at the boot prompt
> would work on *any* keybord according to its marking, which means only
> letters (no =_/ etc.) are allowed. A "-" might work on
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 08:32:24AM +0200, Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006, Christian Perrier wrote:
>
> >"tasks=kde-desktop" is a bit rude to type (try it on a non US
> >keyboard...).
>
> The hint to non US keyboard is *very* important. I would love if
> *every* s
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Re: Andreas Tille 2006-09-27 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The hint to non US keyboard is *very* important. I would love if
> *every* string a user (not a hacker) has to type at the boot prompt
> would work on *any* keybord according to its marking, which means only
> letters (no =_/ etc.) are allowed.
G
Esteban Manchado Velázquez wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As Javier noted just after releasing Sarge [1], we need better
> documentation integration tools in Debian. Yes, we have dhelp [2], but it
> lacks loads of features, and it's not what I would call "in shape" [3]. I have
> tried to fix this situati
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 02:44:10PM +0200, Christian Aichinger wrote:
> The problematic sections seem to be .init and .fini. There are
> sections called .ctors and .dtors, but they aren't marked as
> executable.
.ctors and .dtors contain function pointers that are called by code in
the .init/.fini
On 26/09/2006 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Jonas Meurer]
> > unfortunately mozilla-plugin-gnash crashes for most flash pages.
>
> OK. If you got time, please add these test pages to the wiki. I have
> not been able to get the latest plugin to crash, so I am interested in
> these pages.
i must
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 02:57:16AM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:09:37AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 06:29:25PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > > But folding it into shlibdeps at least would remove all those warnings
> >
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 12:50:07PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> As a first approximation perhaps libraries with constructors or
> destructors could be assumed to always be required? That would be more
> conservative than required but perhaps so conservative as to be useless.
The problematic section
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 06:28:50PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Christian Aichinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Maintaining such information somewhere within the library package would
> > be possible, but that sounds like a more complex plan, and I doubt that
> > many library maintainers know
> > Sorry. I had a short look at some packages and all redundant
> > dependencies were created by shlibdeps. It doesn't seem to make sense to
> > have a list by maintainer when the dependencies weren't added by
> > him/her. Or did I misunderstand what this discussion is about?
>
> Yes, I'm afraid
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 02:05:29PM +0530, Ganesan Rajagopal wrote:
> Excellent work :-).
Thanks :)
> I didn't see a link to the checklib script itself.
> Do you intend to release it some time? Thanks.
It's linked at the bottom of all the pages, the link points to
http://greek0.net/div/checklib.t
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On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:09:37AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 06:29:25PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > But folding it into shlibdeps at least would remove all those warnings
> > > that were created by shlibdeps.
> > What warnings were created by shlibdeps? I'm not
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:49:57PM +0200, Christian Aichinger wrote:
> As a start, I've written a script that searches for unnecessary
> dependencies and reports them. Results are available here:
> http://rerun.lefant.net/checklib
Excellent work :-). I didn't see a link to the checklib script itse
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 06:29:25PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > But folding it into shlibdeps at least would remove all those warnings
> > that were created by shlibdeps.
>
> What warnings were created by shlibdeps? I'm not sure what you're
> referring to here.
Sorry. I had a short look at so
At 1159290174 past the epoch, Jim Crilly wrote:
> The difference here is that removing exim4 and replacing
> it with postfix is a lot less work than it is Gnome->KDE
> since you can't just remove the 'gnome' metapackage and
> have all of Gnome be gone. If there was an easy way to do
> that I doubt
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