Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * John Goerzen [Wed, Aug 02 2006, 04:12:50PM]: > Because everyone knows how to use cp and diff, and because I get diffs > sent to the BTS all the time. It works. And it has nothing to do with > VCS -- it's just Debian packages. Bingo. Therefore, your efforts to use the regular process

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Matthew Palmer [Thu, Aug 03 2006, 08:03:21AM]: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:36:18PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > #include > > * John Goerzen [Wed, Aug 02 2006, 01:01:51PM]: > > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:47:01PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > > > to learn how we deal with this

Re: Bug#381201: ITP: reniced -- renice running processes based on regular expressions

2006-08-02 Thread Clément Stenac
> Of course, the problem is that gcc spawns many processes, and if > reniced only takes a little while to react to a new gcc process, the > children won't be reniced. > If I understand correctly the description, reniced is not actually a daemon but a program that you run from time to time, so not

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread George Danchev
On Thursday 03 August 2006 03:32, Matthew Palmer wrote: --cut-- > > > > This is fine, but (again) you forget about your 'apt-get source' > > > > users, which are not supposed to be aware of your SCM, where your > > > > repo is, > > > > please, find 'SCM' in the above row, thanks. > > I did. Using

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 04:16:30PM -0500, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:31:29PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > > Really, I think that getting patches in darcs from people that are using > > > "darcs send" is not only easier for me as a maintainer, but also ea

Stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade....

2006-08-02 Thread Nathanael Nerode
So upgraded systems don't get the benefits of certain changes to the installer's defaults, or defaults in programs used by the installer. I first thought of this when I noticed the change in the default tuning for ext2 partitions created by mke2fs. Notably, dir_index and filetype are turned on

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 02:08:00AM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Thursday 03 August 2006 00:45, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:47:01PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 20:11, Otavio Salvador wrote: > > > > Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writ

Re: Bug#381221: ITP: dpkg-view -- View the contents of .deb packages without root access

2006-08-02 Thread Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > also sprach Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.02.2248 +0100]: >> * Package name: dpkg-view >> Version : 0.0.2 >> Upstream Author : Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> * URL : http://dpkg-view.alioth.debian.org >> *

Mail headers (was Re: Centralized darcs)

2006-08-02 Thread James Vega
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 12:28:35AM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > On Thursday 03 August 2006 00:11, Josselin Mouette took the opportunity to > say: > > Le mercredi 02 août 2006 à 15:34 -0500, John Goerzen a écrit : > > > > Ok, third time. Please do not do that: > > > > To: George Danchev <[EMAIL

Re: Bug#381221: ITP: dpkg-view -- View the contents of .deb packages without root access

2006-08-02 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.02.2248 +0100]: > * Package name: dpkg-view > Version : 0.0.2 > Upstream Author : Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://dpkg-view.alioth.debian.org > * License : GPL > Programming Lang: C > D

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 04:32:58PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You should better _read_ the GPL and try to understand it. > > > > Good plan. > > Did you have some time to make your plan reality meanwhile? I can quote major parts of it by hea

Bug#381221: ITP: dpkg-view -- View the contents of .deb packages without root access

2006-08-02 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: dpkg-view Version : 0.0.2 Upstream Author : Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://dpkg-view.alioth.debian.org * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Descriptio

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread George Danchev
On Thursday 03 August 2006 00:45, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:47:01PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 20:11, Otavio Salvador wrote: > > > Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>> > But yo

Re: centralized bzr (Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)

2006-08-02 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 22:29 +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > > That's in fact an issue that made me feel sceptical about bzr, darcs > and > mercury. All of them require a shell account or some scripting through > a > special mail address to commit changes. And it's not only the recent > kernel vu

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:36:18PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * John Goerzen [Wed, Aug 02 2006, 01:01:51PM]: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:47:01PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > > to learn how we deal with this all. > > > > > > This is fine, but (again) you forget about your 'ap

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:47:01PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 20:11, Otavio Salvador wrote: > > Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> > But you lose debian specific patches to be clearly separated from the >

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:54:51PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 18:35, John Goerzen wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:01:27PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > > > How is that not true if one knows a given patch system and does know > > > > > about your VCS and ne

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:31:18PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think people that are NMUing packages rarely care about this. > > When NMU'ing a package, I'd really appreciate to know which changes have > which purpose and which "specificity". In part

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:01:27PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 17:31, John Goerzen wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 05:20:26PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > debian/patches/ as separate file, how do I know how to update/remove/etc > > > > There would be no debia

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Thursday 03 August 2006 00:11, Josselin Mouette took the opportunity to say: > Le mercredi 02 août 2006 à 15:34 -0500, John Goerzen a écrit : > > > Ok, third time. Please do not do that: > > > To: George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > > > > Then SET YOUR H

Re: Bug#381201: ITP: reniced -- renice running processes based on regular expressions

2006-08-02 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.02.2308 +0100]: > Out of curiosity, what real-life uses does this tool have? Daemons don't > need to be reniced, so there must be something else. reniced /(g(cc|++)|c(c|++))/ 15 or whatever the syntax is. I often wanted to have such a feat

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 02 août 2006 à 15:34 -0500, John Goerzen a écrit : > > Ok, third time. Please do not do that: > > To: George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > > Then SET YOUR HEADERS to reflect that, like everyone else does. Which headers? (If you are talking about

Re: Bug#381201: ITP: reniced -- renice running processes based on regular expressions

2006-08-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 02 août 2006 à 23:15 +0200, Bart Martens a écrit : > Instead of editing the scripts in /etc/init.d to give daemons the > nicelevel you want (and get prompted at every package update because > these files are conffiles) you can just run reniced once a day. Out of curiosity, what real

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-08-02 Thread David Nusinow
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:56:44PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * David Nusinow [Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:37:23 +]: > > > (I'm seriously > > interested in setting up git.debian.org for XSF work, for example*), > > > * If anyone else is interested in this, contact me and we'll talk > > There is _

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-08-02 Thread Adeodato Simó
* David Nusinow [Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:37:23 +]: > (I'm seriously > interested in setting up git.debian.org for XSF work, for example*), > * If anyone else is interested in this, contact me and we'll talk There is _something_ in costa:/srv/git.debian.org/git already. Cheers, -- Adeodato Sim

Re: Bug#381201: ITP: reniced -- renice running processes based on regular expressions

2006-08-02 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Wednesday 02 August 2006 15:15, Bart Martens wrote: > Instead of editing the scripts in /etc/init.d to give daemons the > nicelevel you want (and get prompted at every package update because > these files are conffiles) you can just run reniced once a day. Wow, that sounds like an annoying b

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:04:53AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > I agree, dpatch & co seem to be more accessible: they are files you > > can "touch"; they're not an abstract concept ("branch") which you > > can work with, but which is not tangible. > This is another possible reason for SVN's s

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-08-02 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 12:44:19PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.0005 +0100]: > > Subversion, in conjunction with alioth, has risen dramatically in > > Debian to accomodate team-based maintainance. There are of course > > plenty of challen

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-08-02 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 03:08:06PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: > > > On Aug 01, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Also, pbuilder and debootstrap are considered absolutely critical for > >> serious work. > > That's a bold statement.

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:31:29PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > Really, I think that getting patches in darcs from people that are using > > "darcs send" is not only easier for me as a maintainer, but also easier > > Much easier as storing the mail attachment under debian/patches? I doubt. Yes,

Re: Bug#381201: ITP: reniced -- renice running processes based on regular expressions

2006-08-02 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 23:04 +0200, Nacho Barrientos Arias wrote: > Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:28:16 +0200 > Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi Bart, > > > > > * Package name: reniced > > Vers

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:36:18PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > NO. They need not care. They can just hack and send me diffs. My > > debian/changelog will already document what has been going on anyway. > > Heh. So they need two copies, one where they do modifications, then diff > those and s

Re: Broken us mirror

2006-08-02 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 8/3/06, Margarita Manterola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One of the us mirrors is not working properly. It's been faulty for at least a week. The mirror is: 204.152.191.7 (mirrors1.kernel.org) To whoever might be in charge of this, it should be removed from the rotation of both http.us.debia

Re: Bug#381201: ITP: reniced -- renice running processes based on regular expressions

2006-08-02 Thread Nacho Barrientos Arias
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:28:16 +0200 Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Bart, > > * Package name: reniced > Version : 1.5 > Upstream Author : Christian Garbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL

Re: centralized bzr (Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)

2006-08-02 Thread Roland Mas
Adeodato Simó, 2006-08-02 21:20:09 +0200 : >> > % bzr push sftp://costa.debian.org/bzr/pkg-xiph/vorbis-tools [...] > Ask in #alioth. Note, however, that TTBOMK still does not offer HTTP > access, so if you want that, better stick to htdocs for a while. > > I hope to be able to bribe buxy to pr

Bug#381201: ITP: reniced -- renice running processes based on regular expressions

2006-08-02 Thread Bart Martens
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: reniced Version : 1.5 Upstream Author : Christian Garbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.cgarbs.de/stuff.en.html * License : GPL Programming Lang: Perl Description

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 09:09:12PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 21:01, John Goerzen wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:47:01PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > > to learn how we deal with this all. > > Ok, third time. Please do not do that: > To: George Danchev <

Re: centralized bzr (Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)

2006-08-02 Thread Christoph Haas
On Wednesday 02 August 2006 21:44, Otavio Salvador wrote: > Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > * Otavio Salvador [Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:43:56 -0300]: > >> Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > Then each developer can prepare a set of changes offline, do all > >> > the branching,

Re: centralized bzr (Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)

2006-08-02 Thread Otavio Salvador
Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Otavio Salvador [Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:43:56 -0300]: > >> Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > Then each developer can prepare a set of changes offline, do all the >> > branching, merging, commiting and uncommiting (gotta love that) that >> >

Re: centralized bzr (Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)

2006-08-02 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Otavio Salvador [Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:43:56 -0300]: > Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Then each developer can prepare a set of changes offline, do all the > > branching, merging, commiting and uncommiting (gotta love that) that > > they want, and when they're done, do e.g.: > >

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * John Goerzen [Wed, Aug 02 2006, 01:01:51PM]: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:47:01PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > to learn how we deal with this all. > > > > This is fine, but (again) you forget about your 'apt-get source' users, > > which > > NO. They need not care. They can j

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * John Goerzen [Wed, Aug 02 2006, 08:27:32AM]: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 09:41:02AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > #include > > * John Goerzen [Tue, Aug 01 2006, 04:47:13PM]: > > > > > I do use darcs to track patches against upstream. I really don't > > > understand the whole cdbs/dpat

Urgency bug, or am I missing something?

2006-08-02 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
Hi folks, I just uploaded a security fix to unstable, with high urgency. However, I got this response: On Wednesday 02 August 2006 12:02, you wrote: > Warning: high (security) is not a valid urgency; it will be treated as low > by testing. > > Accepted: > cheesetracker_0.9.9-6.diff.gz > to poo

Re: Debian architectures, according to popularity-contest

2006-08-02 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 31 July 2006 08:18, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I > believe there are a large percentage of machines without > popularity-contest installed for all the architectures, and that this > do not skew the result significantly for any of the architecture. I'd be prepared to believe *some* bias

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread George Danchev
On Wednesday 02 August 2006 21:01, John Goerzen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:47:01PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > to learn how we deal with this all. Ok, third time. Please do not do that: To: George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Sending to debian-deve

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:47:01PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > to learn how we deal with this all. > > This is fine, but (again) you forget about your 'apt-get source' users, which NO. They need not care. They can just hack and send me diffs. My debian/changelog will already document wha

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Frank Küster
Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > But you lose debian specific patches to be clearly separated from the > upstrem source (digging diff.gz for that is not fun), unless one knows >

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread George Danchev
On Wednesday 02 August 2006 20:11, Otavio Salvador wrote: > Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > But you lose debian specific patches to be clearly separated from the > >>> > upstrem source (digging diff.gz for that is not fun), unless one >

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Otavio Salvador
Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > But you lose debian specific patches to be clearly separated from the >>> > upstrem source (digging diff.gz for that is not fun), unless one knows >>> > where to find >>> >>> First, what is a "Debian-speci

Bug#381160: ITP: autofw -- Automatic firewall script

2006-08-02 Thread Baruch Even
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Baruch Even <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: autofw Version : 0.3.3 Upstream Author : Baruch Even <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://baruch.ev-en.org/proj/autofw/ * License : GPLv2 Description : Automatic firewal

Broken us mirror

2006-08-02 Thread Margarita Manterola
One of the us mirrors is not working properly. It's been faulty for at least a week. The mirror is: 204.152.191.7 (mirrors1.kernel.org) To whoever might be in charge of this, it should be removed from the rotation of both http.us.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org, and notified that it's having

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Frank Küster
George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > But you lose debian specific patches to be clearly separated from the >> > upstrem source (digging diff.gz for that is not fun), unless one knows >> > where to find >> >> First, what is a "Debian-specific patch?" Isn't everything in diff.gz >> that?

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Frank Küster
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:01:27PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: >> > > How is that not true if one knows a given patch system and does know >> > > about your VCS and needs to work on one of your packages. Do they have >> > >> > They just apt-get source, ha

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread George Danchev
On Wednesday 02 August 2006 18:35, John Goerzen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:01:27PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > > How is that not true if one knows a given patch system and does know > > > > about your VCS and needs to work on one of your packages. Do they > > > > have > > > > > > Th

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:01:27PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > How is that not true if one knows a given patch system and does know > > > about your VCS and needs to work on one of your packages. Do they have > > > > They just apt-get source, hack away, and send me a diff. > > Also true for

ITP: recordmydesktop -- Captures audio-video data of a linux desktop session

2006-08-02 Thread L. Redrejo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: José L. Redrejo Rodríguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: recordmydesktop Version : 0.2.3 Upstream Author : John Varouhakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Descript

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread George Danchev
On Wednesday 02 August 2006 17:31, John Goerzen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 05:20:26PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > Actually, I disagree with that. I always hate having to work with a > > > package that uses a patch management system, because then I have to > > > learn the system before

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:49:06 +0200, Luca Capello wrote: > The first time I generated the darcs -upstream repository, I didn't > include the CVS folders (because anyway it's a lintian error if ^^^ > they're present i

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You should better _read_ the GPL and try to understand it. > > Good plan. Did you have some time to make your plan reality meanwhile? > > GPL §2 defines what the "work" is and requres to publish the whole > > work under the GPL in case that that

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:32:13 +0200, John Goerzen wrote: > If upstream uses darcs or git, you could use their repo directly. > If they use CVS or SVN, you could use tailor to track it. If they > use Arch, you can use arch2darcs to track it. For a tailor mini-HowTo, please give a look at [1

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 05:20:26PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > Actually, I disagree with that. I always hate having to work with a > > package that uses a patch management system, because then I have to > > learn the system before I can do any work on the package. And there are > > several s

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread George Danchev
On Wednesday 02 August 2006 16:34, John Goerzen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:23:31AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 16:47 -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > > > I do use darcs to track patches against upstream. I really don't > > > understand the whole cdbs/dpatch/whateve

Re: GCC 4.1 now the default GCC version for etch

2006-08-02 Thread Brett Parker
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 09:47:10AM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote: > On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 07:06:06PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Falk Hueffner wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 07:58:23AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > >> long is not a

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:23:31AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 16:47 -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > > I do use darcs to track patches against upstream. I really don't > > understand the whole cdbs/dpatch/whatever thing -- why use a hack to > > manage your patches when you c

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 10:17:57AM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > On Tuesday 01 August 2006 23:47, John Goerzen wrote: > > I do use darcs to track patches against upstream. I really don't > > understand the whole cdbs/dpatch/whatever thing -- why use a hack to > > manage your patches when you coul

Re: virtual packages `pinentry' and `pinentry-x11'

2006-08-02 Thread Tatsuya Kinoshita
On August 1, 2006 at 1:04PM +0100, ian (at davenant.greenend.org.uk) wrote: > Tatsuya Kinoshita writes ("Re: virtual packages `pinentry' and > `pinentry-x11'"): > > Hmm, I have not yet understand the policy 3.6: > > > > | All packages should use virtual package names where appropriate, and >

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 09:41:02AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * John Goerzen [Tue, Aug 01 2006, 04:47:13PM]: > > > I do use darcs to track patches against upstream. I really don't > > understand the whole cdbs/dpatch/whatever thing -- why use a hack to > > manage your patches when y

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread George Danchev
On Wednesday 02 August 2006 12:23, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 16:47 -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > > I do use darcs to track patches against upstream. I really don't > > understand the whole cdbs/dpatch/whatever thing -- why use a hack to > > manage your patches when you could us

Re: How to properly close a non-existent bug?

2006-08-02 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
close 369605 thanks "Francisco Moya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Package zeroc-icee-translators lists an outstanding bug #369605 filed > 63 days ago.  I don't know how to properly handle this situation > since: > - It was actually a bug report against package zeroc-ice.  No, it wasn't. it was

How to properly close a non-existent bug?

2006-08-02 Thread Francisco Moya
Hi,Package zeroc-icee-translators lists an outstanding bug #369605 filed 63 days ago.  I don't know how to properly handle this situation since:- It was actually a bug report against package zeroc-ice.  zeroc-icee-translators depends on any version of the binary icecpp package, from zeroc-ice sourc

Re: Python Transition, Mass Bug fill and NMUs...

2006-08-02 Thread Loïc Minier
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > that could have been more clear, but I do have such tools to follow the > transition, I use[1]. The two rounds of mass bug have been package that > build public modules and extensions, and then all the other ones (+ > some missed one at the first st

Re: Python Transition, Mass Bug fill and NMUs...

2006-08-02 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le mer 2 août 2006 11:23, Loïc Minier a écrit : > - status of the transition Wiki page: a summary of steps which are >in progress (pointer to python transition pseudo-bug, pointers to >the list of bugs to be fixed in the mass bug filing, description of >the step) that could have been

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-08-02 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Thijs Kinkhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.02.1020 +0100]: > > This shouldn't need snapshot.debian.net, right? > > If the bug is claimed to be fixed in the changelog of 2.0-5 and the > current sid version is 2.0-7, I don't know another way to see the diff > between 2.0-4 and 2.0-5, s

Re: Python Transition, Mass Bug fill and NMUs...

2006-08-02 Thread Loïc Minier
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Yesterday, a last round of bugs has been filled against packages that > may need an upgrade to comply with the recent python policy[1]. That's great! We all want python to be python2.4 in etch, thanks for your work. We already discussed together

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 16:47 -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > I do use darcs to track patches against upstream. I really don't > understand the whole cdbs/dpatch/whatever thing -- why use a hack to > manage your patches when you could use a real VC tool that does it > better? A patch system can be ver

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-08-02 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 20:57 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > > I'm using it when porting security fixes to sarge. If the maintainer has > > fixed a security bug in sid, I download that version and the version > > before and can see right away what exactly he changed to fix the bug. > > This shouldn

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.02.1004 +0100]: > > I agree, dpatch & co seem to be more accessible: they are files > > you can "touch"; they're not an abstract concept ("branch") > > which you can work with, but which is not tangible. > > This is another possible reason

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:17:57 +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > On Tuesday 01 August 2006 23:47, John Goerzen wrote: >> I do use darcs to track patches against upstream. I really don't >> understand the whole cdbs/dpatch/whatever thing -- why use a hack >> to manage your patches when you could

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:34:41 +0200, John Goerzen wrote: > On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 09:06:19PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: >> John, are you actually using the workflow you describe for >> maintenance of Debian packages? Single or team maintenance? Could >> you elaborate a bit? > > I do use

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 01 août 2006 à 23:39 +0100, martin f krafft a écrit : > also sprach John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.2247 +0100]: > > I do use darcs to track patches against upstream. I really don't > > understand the whole cdbs/dpatch/whatever thing -- why use a hack to > > manage your patch

Re: Python Transition, Mass Bug fill and NMUs…

2006-08-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 02 août 2006 à 10:21 +0200, Pierre Habouzit a écrit : > Yesterday, a last round of bugs has been filled against packages that > may need an upgrade to comply with the recent python policy[1]. Please also note that some of these bugs are invalid. For example, if the package ships some

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Christoph Haas
On Tuesday 01 August 2006 23:47, John Goerzen wrote: > I do use darcs to track patches against upstream. I really don't > understand the whole cdbs/dpatch/whatever thing -- why use a hack to > manage your patches when you could use a real VC tool that does it > better? Is there a common "best pra

Python Transition, Mass Bug fill and NMUs…

2006-08-02 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Yesterday, a last round of bugs has been filled against packages that may need an upgrade to comply with the recent python policy[1]. Some developpers have raised concerns directly to me about the 0-day NMU policy warning in that report. This § has been added because /usr/bin/python beeing pyth

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-08-02 Thread Pierre Machard
Hi, On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 03:31:26PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Pierre Machard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1501 +0100]: > > snapshot.debian.net (still not-official but very usefull) > > This is very interesting, especially in the light of version control > for packaging --

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * John Goerzen [Tue, Aug 01 2006, 04:47:13PM]: > I do use darcs to track patches against upstream. I really don't > understand the whole cdbs/dpatch/whatever thing -- why use a hack to > manage your patches when you could use a real VC tool that does it > better? Because you can make y