On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 12:03 +0200, Vedran Furac wrote:
> > than 600 days by tonight (or if anything goes wrong -I have an exam
>
> Before you do that:
Yeah, I know there are packages that should not be closed, probably, and
they could just hide from the view and be closed. What I really trust is
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 07:50 +0200, Martin Samuelsson wrote:
> Wouldn't it make more sense to close bugs that hasn't recieved more info
> in X days than bugs that had their initial post in Y days?
>
> Some packages are trickier than others to create and may therefor take
> more time. As long as peo
On Wednesday 21 September 2005 15:49, René van Bevern wrote:
> > A lot of packages install stuff in the user directory.
>
> I doubt that any package does this.
1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ :( $ grep '^/home/' /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list
1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ :( $
None on my system.
> Not by packages or
Package: general
Severity: grave
Tags: l10n
Justification: renders package unusable
The standard value $LANG="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" breaks fontsize for some gtk1
programs like gxedit or tipptrainer. With $LANG="de_DE" they show a
readable font.
A normal user doesn't know that when he chooses the loc
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> For systems on insecure or restricted/classified networks, it's
> wonderful. For 98% of us, it's too much complexity for not enough
> benefit over:
>carefully chosen apps
>turned-off unused daemons
>a good h/w firewall
>st
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On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 16:49 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Arvind Autar wrote:
> > is no loss of functionality, why hasn't debian implented SELinux as
> > default?
>
> It is not that simple. We are doing it slowly.
To flesh that out some:
Fine-grain sec
Scripsit "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 10:07:12PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
>> (For example, some postscript files explode in size when they are
>> passed through ghostscripts pswrite backend - which is more or less by
>> design. Others become smaller, bu
I use these and would be happy to adopt the package.
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On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 10:07:12PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
> (For example, some postscript files explode in size when they are
> passed through ghostscripts pswrite backend - which is more or less by
> design. Others become smaller, but in any case this ought to be kept
> orthogonal from simp
Scripsit Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I have also wondered a bit about the current status of the domain. Is
> psutils still needed, or are there better, more actively pursued
> alternatives now? For example, can similar functionality be provided
> by convenience wrappers around ghostscript
Arvind Autar wrote:
Helllo,
I have been using debian for quite some time now, how ever I have
watched several distrobutions implentating so many great ideas, and I
have been wondering why such a robust distorbution as debian
GNU/Linux(*) hasn't done this. One of them is:
SELinux
If SELinux is
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Arvind Autar wrote:
> is no loss of functionality, why hasn't debian implented SELinux as
> default?
It is not that simple. We are doing it slowly.
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them all and in the darkness grind them. In the L
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 04:34:49AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> I don't remember any such rationale ever being given; IIRC, ljlane changed
> it in response to pressure from users, who may have objected for any number
> of reasons. The presence of an optional startup script for iptables doesn't
Package: wnpp
I'd like to give up maintainership of psutils.
As it stands now, there hasn't been any upstream work on it in a long
time, and my impression from the last time I spoke with the author was
that he wasn't sure when he might be able to work on it heavily again.
It also looks like fix
Helllo,
I have been using debian for quite some time now, how ever I have
watched several distrobutions implentating so many great ideas, and I
have been wondering why such a robust distorbution as debian
GNU/Linux(*) hasn't done this. One of them is:
SELinux
If SELinux is also suitable for desk
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"Nathanael Nerode" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thomas Bushnell wrote:
>>This is not the correct way to orphan a package.
>
> True. However, it is entirely legitimate for a maintainer to decide that a
> package is worthless and withdraw it, which is what Andres Salomon is
> planning to do. In
"Ingo Juergensmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The proposal make some very exact guidelines like the 98% rule whereas
> it is very unprecise in other regards. I find this quite irrating and
> thus asking for clarification.
Actually, the 98% rule is not in the proposal. It was given as a
possibl
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 17:05 +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
> Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > I'm starting to suspect you do not trust the release team nor the
> > porters to make good judgement [...]
^^^
> Nono... of course not!
> It's just my personal experience tha
Quoting Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> * Ingo Juergensmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050921 16:53]:
> > What about such ports like m32r? Some embedded devices might run that port,
> > but the user doesn't even know about which arch he's using nor that he's
> > using Debian and certainly not that h
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, René van Bevern wrote:
> Not by packages or their scripts and not without user
> interaction. It's dangerous.
Often it IS done without interaction, with the expected screwups and massive
loss of data. Openoffice deleted a ton of user files with their
super-braindead upgrade s
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Ingo Juergensmann]
>> As I tried to say: there need more exact quidelines for
>> this. Currently they are very vague in my eyes.
> You failed to say why the guidelines need to be more exact. In my
> view, the guidelines are good enough. This is probably colored by th
* Ingo Juergensmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050921 16:53]:
> What about such ports like m32r? Some embedded devices might run that port,
> but the user doesn't even know about which arch he's using nor that he's
> using Debian and certainly not that he is intended to give a "hey, i'm using
> that port
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 04:28:07PM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 04:22:27PM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
> > That's not only "must have 50 users" but more a "must have 50 users that do
> > stuff on those machines".
> > See, that's the problem, when you don't defin
[Ingo Juergensmann]
> As I tried to say: there need more exact quidelines for
> this. Currently they are very vague in my eyes.
You failed to say why the guidelines need to be more exact. In my
view, the guidelines are good enough. This is probably colored by the
fact that I trust the good judge
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 03:37:25PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > > | * Developer availability: The architecture must have a
> > > |developer-available (i.e. debian.org) machine that contains the
> > > |usual development chroots (at least stable, testing, unstable).
> > > This criterion
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 04:22:27PM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
> That's not only "must have 50 users" but more a "must have 50 users that do
> stuff on those machines".
> See, that's the problem, when you don't define those rules exactly: what
> qualifies for a "user" - how often needs the use
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 03:46:14PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > Well, I'm already running popcon on my two m68ks, but that doesn't say much
> > about how many users are using that machines, as you state yourself. ;)
> Well, it's up to the porters to count the users, but of course, if you
> stat
[Kalle Kivimaa]
> It's actually pretty easy. Count the number of posters that seem to
> disagree. If this number is over half of the current developer
> count, then yes, a majority of the developers are in
> opposition. What you _cannot_ do is say "because over 50% of the
> people participating in
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I guess that depends on the viewpoint of the reader what the results
> were. It is hard to tell if there is a vocal minority making a lot of
> noise, or if there is a majority disagreeing with the criteria.
It's actually pretty easy. Count the num
On 21.09.05, Faré wrote:
> On 9/21/05, René van Bevern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 21.09.05, Faré wrote:
> >
> > Hi Faré,
> >
> > > The only possible downside is having to walk /etc/passwd to locate
> > > all the places where to purge the cache, if you wish to do such
> > > thing.
> >
> > No,
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Hi folks,
I've come across a strange behavior printing a certain postscript file
with the CUPS server in Sarge. (See bug # 329207 for further details.)
I would like to request someone who is still running oldstable - Woody
- - to see whether or not
* Ingo Juergensmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050921 15:28]:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 03:19:16PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > [Ingo Juergensmann]
> > > Although it was discussed several times, I have still no idea how those
> > > users should be counted?
> > Two ideas.
> > - Get them to inst
* Josselin Mouette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050921 15:25]:
> Le mardi 20 septembre 2005 à 23:41 +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit :
> > For that reason, we discussed in multiple meetings, together with porters,
> > ftp-masters and other people more than once how the criteria should
> > look. Also, there wa
* Ingo Juergensmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050921 14:54]:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:41:13PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > | * Developer availability: The architecture must have a
> > |developer-available (i.e. debian.org) machine that contains the
> > |usual development chroots (at leas
[Josselin Mouette]
> This has been indeed discussed to death. The result of the
> discussion seems to be that a large majority of the developers
> doesn't agree with all your criteria.
I guess that depends on the viewpoint of the reader what the results
were. It is hard to tell if there is a voca
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 03:19:16PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Ingo Juergensmann]
> > Although it was discussed several times, I have still no idea how those
> > users should be counted?
> Two ideas.
> - Get them to install popularity-contest. This will make their
>machine show up o
Le mardi 20 septembre 2005 à 23:41 +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit :
> For that reason, we discussed in multiple meetings, together with porters,
> ftp-masters and other people more than once how the criteria should
> look. Also, there was more than one discussion on debian-devel. [1, 2]
This has be
[Ingo Juergensmann]
> Although it was discussed several times, I have still no idea how those
> users should be counted?
Two ideas.
- Get them to install popularity-contest. This will make their
machine show up on popcon.debian.org, and we would assume there are
users of the given machin
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:41:13PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> Now, looking more into details, the criteria are:
> | * Availability:
> | The architecture needs to be available for everybody, i.e.
> The reason for this should be obvious
The requirement of "available as new" has been dropped
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@ 21/09/2005 02:25 : wrote Matthew Palmer :> On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at
01:12:38AM -, Samuel Jean wrote:
> Here it goes. I wondered about a clever way to load my iptables
> ruleset via init.d's script. Surprisingly, I didn't find any with
> Debian. I didn't search that much though.
Have a look
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 04:04:29PM +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote:
> > Am Mi den 21. Sep 2005 um 3:12 schrieb Samuel Jean:
> > > Here it goes. I wondered about a clever way to load my iptables ruleset
> > > via
> > > init.d's script. Surprisingly, I didn't find any with Debian. I didn't
> > > s
Kevin B. McCarty writes:
> Gfortran claims not to be completely ready for use as a g77 replacement
> yet (and someone who has attempted to compile Cernlib with it reports a
> large number of problems yet). But eventually that day will come... we
> should have some transition plan in mind by then.
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 02:06:24PM +0200, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver wrote:
> It's not so unusual anymore since intel introduced the IXP series
> of chips which come with mostly BE oriented reference designs.
The nslu2 itself comes with an ixp4xx CPU, but the armeb port is also
used on a number of i
Christian Perrier a écrit :
Package: localechooser
Severity: wishlist
Currently, localechooser install specific packages for given languages by
using code inside the main script.
i think localchooser is not the only package which needs to install
other packages during postinst.
is there a way
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 05:07:31AM -0400, Alfie Costa wrote:
> Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I find constructs like ${string#*=} particularly difficult to read,
> > since they require that I remember what all the different punctuation
> > characters inside this sort of parameter expan
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I find constructs like ${string#*=} particularly difficult to read,
> since they require that I remember what all the different punctuation
> characters inside this sort of parameter expansion do. According to
> the bash manual, there are sixteen of them,
#include
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [Thu, Aug 25 2005, 12:17:56PM]:
> Well, as long as you don't start using stuff that breaks often, or that
> loads a ton of crap dynamically, or (even worse) is in /usr instead of /bin
> or /sbin...
>
> Note that using dash is probably MUCH faster than perl.
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On Sep 21, Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The absolute minimum functional upgrade path is to Conflict: with all
> package versions providing old-style blacklists, and to abort early in
> preinst with a loud warning if any user-specified blacklists are present on
> the system (muc
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