On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 01:51:10PM -0700, Allyn, MarkX A wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I will be needing to create driver update disks for some device drivers
> that we have in development.
>
> I also need to know how to use them.
>
> Can anyone please provide me with a pointer on where I can get
> instru
On 02/08/05, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 03:31:36PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote:
> > On 02/08/05, Stepan Golosunov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 08:24:30PM +0200, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote:
> > > > Nothing. It was just a question, as Nikit
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 10:42:17PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
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> David Moreno Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > I have been in the whole NM process for more than 13 months now. I
> > spent around 6 months with my AM, around another 6 to be a
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 03:31:36PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote:
> On 02/08/05, Stepan Golosunov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 08:24:30PM +0200, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote:
> > > Nothing. It was just a question, as Nikita sounds to be a female name,
> > > but as I'm not sure abo
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 11:19:46PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> Yaroslav Halchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 01:51:53PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> >>> I'm not sure if any additional AMs are necessary -- there is a
> >>> sufficient quantity of them
On 02/08/05, Stepan Golosunov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 08:24:30PM +0200, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote:
> > Nothing. It was just a question, as Nikita sounds to be a female name,
> > but as I'm not sure about it, I was just interested. At least for me, a
> > Hungarian, it so
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 08:24:30PM +0200, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote:
> Nothing. It was just a question, as Nikita sounds to be a female name,
> but as I'm not sure about it, I was just interested. At least for me, a
> Hungarian, it sounds like a female name.
In Russia, Nikita is (exclusively) male
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> On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 07:03:14AM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
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>>On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 09:59:04AM +, W. Borgert wrote:
>>
>>>- How do I have to arrange the repository, so that
>>
>>better use arrangement which svn-buildpackage creates
>>branches trunk tags ups
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David Moreno Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have been in the whole NM process for more than 13 months now. I
> spent around 6 months with my AM, around another 6 to be approved by
> the DAM and I'm waiting now, since a month ago, for my account
Yaroslav Halchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 01:51:53PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
>>> I'm not sure if any additional AMs are necessary -- there is a
>>> sufficient quantity of them to cover all current DD applicants...
>> No.
> Indeed - I counted "grave stones
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 03:49:33PM -0500, David Moreno Garza wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 15:55 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
> >
> > I'm already waiting for DAM approval for almost 6 months, and I'm
> > ready to
> > wait more (after all, there is a psyhological difference between a day
>
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Hello:
I will be needing to create driver update disks for some device drivers
that we have in development.
I also need to know how to use them.
Can anyone please provide me with a pointer on where I can get
instructions
on creating and using driver update disks?
Or are they simply a collection
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 15:55 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
>
> I'm already waiting for DAM approval for almost 6 months, and I'm
> ready to
> wait more (after all, there is a psyhological difference between a day
> and
> a month, but not between 6 and 12 months).
>
> The only thing that make
On 20050801T135912-0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> Maybe Laszlo wants to know which would be the proper pronoun reference.
"Ey" is good for everybody, even the genderqueer. :)
(Tip: ey talks to em about eir stuff)
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Steve Greenland wrote:
> I personally think it ought to be left as is. Either comply, or change
> the first line to "#!/bin/bash", which will always be there on Debian
> system. Any script complicated enough to need local can probably survive
> bash startup.
Unless, of course, it's a shell library
On 20050801T153347-0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> So there are 12 AMs which are listed and which do not carry any load,
> although the load is there and knocking the door :-)
I don't know how many of those are in my position: I am practically a
newbie as an AM and as such I will carry little we
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 01:59:12PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > > (Are you a girl maybe?)
> >
> > What does that have to do with anything? Stop being male-chauvanistic.
> >
>
> Maybe Laszlo wants to know which would be the proper pronoun reference.
> It is better to ask and be certain t
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On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 01:51:53PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> > I'm not sure if any additional AMs are necessary -- there is a
> > sufficient quantity of them to cover all current DD applicants...
> No.
Indeed - I counted "grave stones" as well. So there are 61 registered
AMs. And just
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 08:24:30PM +0200, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 11:35 -0500, Adam Heath wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote:
>>> Hi Nikita,
>>> (Are you a girl maybe?)
>> What does that have to do with anything? Stop being
>male-chauvanistic.
> No
On Aug 01, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I personally think it ought to be left as is. Either comply, or change
> the first line to "#!/bin/bash", which will always be there on Debian
This is pointless because it negates the speed and memory footprint
advantages of dash.
> system.
"Brian M. Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is a public service announcement about Debian Policy section 10.4,
> which states in part:
>
> The standard shell interpreter `/bin/sh' can be a symbolic link to any
> POSIX compatible shell, if `echo -n' does not generate a newline.[1]
>
On 01-Aug-05, 11:05 (CDT), Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And again, please let's focus on the *purpose* of policy. POSIX
> compatibility is not supposed to be a goal in itself, compatibility with
> other UN*X /bin/sh or support for a faster shell than bash may be.
The purpose of 10.4
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 11:35 -0500, Adam Heath wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote:
>
> > Hi Nikita,
> > (Are you a girl maybe?)
>
> What does that have to do with anything? Stop being male-chauvanistic.
Nothing. It was just a question, as Nikita sounds to be a female name,
but
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 11:35:33AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote:
>
> > Hi Nikita,
> > (Are you a girl maybe?)
>
> What does that have to do with anything? Stop being male-chauvanistic.
>
Maybe Laszlo wants to know which would be the proper pronoun ref
Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I notice that some of the statistics at http://nm.debian.org/ don't make
> sense.
> Mode Median Average Max
>CountDaysDaysDaysDays
> New Maintainers processed
>Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I would appreciate it if someone would create the "potash" shell,
>> consisting of posh modified to implement "test -a", "test -o" and
>> "local". Debian would probably run on that well enough for it to
>> be used as /bin/sh, and it could become the de fa
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 15:23 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> On the very day I got my account, Frontdesk asked me in IRC whether I
> want to become AM. That speaks against that theory. :)
Apart from that it's not just a theory. ;)
Kind regards,
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On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote:
> Hi Nikita,
> (Are you a girl maybe?)
What does that have to do with anything? Stop being male-chauvanistic.
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On Aug 01, Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would appreciate it if someone would create the "potash" shell,
> consisting of posh modified to implement "test -a", "test -o" and
> "local". Debian would probably run on that well enough for it to
> be used as /bin/sh, and it could become th
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 05:03:44PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
> I notice that some of the statistics at http://nm.debian.org/ don't make
> sense.
They are in fact complete nonsense, because of the way they're
calculated. I keep meaning to do something about it but never have
time. As it stands, the
I notice that some of the statistics at http://nm.debian.org/ don't make
sense.
Mode Median Average Max
CountDaysDaysDaysDays
New Maintainers processed 720 347 347 343 343
The mode can'
Hi Nikita,
(Are you a girl maybe?)
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 15:55 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
> The only thing that makes me feel uncomfortable now is that I'm not able to
> upload packages that fix bugs timely - communication with sponsor leads to
> very long overhead - probably because of va
I wrote:
>> I don't know what kind of importance a policy clause can have if it
>> has "nil" practical impact.
Steve Langasek wrote:
> I mean that the practical *benefit* of such strict enforcement is nil.
> The *impact* is that it would be a royal waste of developer time to
> make all scripts com
On 31-Jul-05, 19:53 (CDT), Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, currently Solaris is doing bit advertisemet that they did not (never?)
> break compatibility.
Which leads to wonderful things like /bin/sh *still* not being POSIX,
or even ksh[1]...compatibility is nice, but it's not t
On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 11:59:18PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> c) write a wrapper script for the terminal emulator, and cope with
> finding the right options for each possible emulator (potentially
> huge amount of work)
This is how it's done already in the case of gnome-terminal (see
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* Nico Golde ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 15:21]:
> * Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-01 15:16]:
> > * Neil McGovern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 14:02]:
> > > On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 01:58:55PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > > > * Yaroslav Halchenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 12:20
Hi,
* Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-01 15:16]:
> * Neil McGovern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 14:02]:
> > On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 01:58:55PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > > * Yaroslav Halchenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 12:20]:
> > > > I'm not sure if any additional AMs are necessar
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> Awaiting AM assignment 140 days
> Awaiting DAM Approval184 days
I'm already waiting for DAM approval for almost 6 months, and I'm ready to
wait more (after all, there is a psyhological difference between a day and
a month, but not between 6 and 12 months).
The only thing that makes me fee
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On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 06:06:27AM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 11:10:04PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
> > (1) keep vulnerable packages in stable,
> > (2) remove affected packages from distribution,
> > (3) allow new upstream into stable.
> My 1 cent would be a
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* Neil McGovern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 14:02]:
> On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 01:58:55PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > * Yaroslav Halchenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 12:20]:
> > > I'm not sure if any additional AMs are necessary -- there is a
> > > sufficient quantity of them to cover all curre
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 01:58:55PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Yaroslav Halchenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 12:20]:
> > I'm not sure if any additional AMs are necessary -- there is a
> > sufficient quantity of them to cover all current DD applicants...
>
> We would need more good AMs, we hav
* Yaroslav Halchenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 12:20]:
> I'm not sure if any additional AMs are necessary -- there is a
> sufficient quantity of them to cover all current DD applicants...
We would need more good AMs, we have too few.
Cheers,
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Yaroslav Halchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> I'm not sure if any additional AMs are necessary -- there is a
> sufficient quantity of them to cover all current DD applicants...
No.
Marc
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Florian Ragwitz wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 07:03:14AM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
>
>>On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 09:59:04AM +, W. Borgert wrote:
>>
>>>- How do I have to arrange the repository, so that
>>
>>better use arrangement which svn-buildpackage creates
>>branches trunk tag
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 11:10:04PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
>> As it is being currently discussed on debian-security [1], security
>> team has hard times supporting mozilla family of packages, because of
>> unfriendly upstream policy - they don't want to isolate security fixes
>> fro
On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 07:03:14AM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 09:59:04AM +, W. Borgert wrote:
> > - How do I have to arrange the repository, so that
>
> better use arrangement which svn-buildpackage creates
> branches trunk tags upstream build-area and tarballs
>
Dear DDs and The Rest,
I am as the one who applied to become a DD and I am very curious
-- is that just a human factor (people, ie AMs are busy) or it is more
psychological -- test by time?
If you look at http://nm.debian.org/ average statistics
Awaiting AM assignment 140 days
Awaiting DAM App
On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 11:10:04PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
> As it is being currently discussed on debian-security [1], security
> team has hard times supporting mozilla family of packages, because of
> unfriendly upstream policy - they don't want to isolate security fixes
> from a larg
On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 11:10:04PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
> (1) keep vulnerable packages in stable,
> (2) remove affected packages from distribution,
> (3) allow new upstream into stable.
My 1 cent would be a merge of (2) and (3)... it is more of the
formalization so we woudln't need
On Aug 01, "W. Borgert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 10:07:10PM +, Roland Rosenfeld wrote:
> > But how do you push the users to remove the package from their
> > systems? In reality they will keep the broken version installed and
> > so you have (1) again :-(
> Empty p
On Aug 01, Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, if, contrary to fact, the idea were widely supported then posh
> could be adapted so that it implemented the minimum set of features
> that Debian expected sh scripts to have. Then posh could be used to
> test whether scripts were complian
On Aug 01, David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think we should require that a base install should be POSIX
> compliant; for everything else we can be a bit more lax.
I see lack of a rationale here.
> But unlike some others, I don't see the point of rejecting patches
> to fix XSI:isms/b
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Hi!
Nikita V. Youshchenko [2005-08-01 10:34 +0400]:
> Since such cases should be very rare, they may be handled manually (so
> infrastructure changes are not needed). For the same reason, I don't think
> that stability risks are high.
Agreed. The whole point of backporting patches is to minimiz
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 12:40:43AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 08:44:17AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
> > Steven Langasek wrote:
> > > One might as well be able to expand "posh" as the "Pathologically
> > > Overstrict SHell"
>
> > Well, if, contrary to fact, the idea were
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 02:52:52 -0400, Anthony DeRobertis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 30, 2005 at 08:30:51PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
>> They shouldn't be, as they're not supposed to be complete sentences
>> either (think of it as "package -- short des
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 08:44:17AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
> Steven Langasek wrote:
> > One might as well be able to expand "posh" as the "Pathologically
> > Overstrict SHell"
> Well, if, contrary to fact, the idea were widely supported then posh
> could be adapted so that it implemented the min
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:59:18 +0100, Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> This is not a grave bug, it's easy to install rxvt or xterm and
>> configure seyon to use those. I'm actually tempted to reassign the
>> bug to gnome-terminal instead, for willfully breaking compatibility
>> with the
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:13:43 +0200, Harald Dunkel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hi folks, What happens if a package maintainer ignores upstream's
> version number (either on purpose, or by accident, e.g. a typo)? Is
> this allowed?
Err, what do you think could be done in such a case?
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On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 10:07:10PM +, Roland Rosenfeld wrote:
> But how do you push the users to remove the package from their
> systems? In reality they will keep the broken version installed and
> so you have (1) again :-(
Empty package with a higher version number?
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Steven Langasek wrote:
> One might as well be able to expand "posh" as the "Pathologically
> Overstrict SHell"
Well, if, contrary to fact, the idea were widely supported then posh
could be adapted so that it implemented the minimum set of features
that Debian expected sh scripts to have. Then po
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