Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.31.0906 +0200]: > DISTRIB := $(shell something-that-prints-DEBIAN-or-UBUNTU) Rene told me about lsb-release. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :p

Re: intend-to-implement: script to obtain Debian Source

2005-03-30 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:54:01 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen uttered > TTBOMK, he hasn't discussed this with the dpkg maintainer, nor has he > made his code public. > Er, Adam Heath has made plenty of uploads of dpkg, and is listed as an Uploader. Cheers, -- Steve

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels

2005-03-30 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Thomas Bushnell BSG | Huh? I'm not saying I pretend it isn't there. Do I want to modify | the source code? No, because there's nothing I could do with it if I | could. Sure there is, like, reprogramming the image shown when your computer boots. -- Tollef Fog Heen

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread Peter Samuelson
[martin f krafft] > Parts of debian/rules are Ubuntu-specific (e.g. mv README.Debian > README.Ubuntu) and we would love to have that removed. The DISTRIB thing can be implemented quite easily without include files or anything. Just say: DISTRIB := $(shell something-that-prints-DEBIAN-or-UBUNT

Re: intend-to-implement: script to obtain Debian Source

2005-03-30 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Lars Wirzenius | su, 2005-03-27 kello 09:01 +0200, George Danchev kirjoitti: | | > I second suggestion given at #250202 and like to see "unpacked" | > and "patched" targets to hit Policy 4.8. | | I hear that Adam Heath (doogie for those on IRC) has been working on a | new source package format

Re: intend-to-implement: script to obtain Debian Source

2005-03-30 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* George Danchev | I second suggestion given at #250202 and like to see "unpacked" and | "patched" targets to hit Policy 4.8. If so, it should be «unpack» and «patch» to match the build and install targets. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is

Re: Standard description file about maintainer groups

2005-03-30 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Ola Lundqvist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > A common way is to list the contact address for the group > as maintainer and each person responsible for uploads in Uploaders. > You miss non official Debian developers this way though. This is the way d-i packages are handled. This is also the way I

Re: Bug#302283: ITP: sleepshell -- Sleep dummy shell

2005-03-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 10:19:12PM -0300, Leonardo Serra wrote: > You can use it to create SSH accounts for users who will > only use them for SSH-tunneling; to create an encrypted > tunnel to your servers. Or you can use the -N option to OpenSSH. - Matt signature.asc Description: Digital sign

Bug#302283: ITP: sleepshell -- Sleep dummy shell

2005-03-30 Thread Leonardo Serra
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Leonardo Serra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package name: sleepshell Version : 0.0.1-1 Upstream Author : Leonardo Serra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.mariovaldez.net/software/sleep

Re: Policy for devfs support

2005-03-30 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 07:24:05PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Mar 26, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is there a project-wide policy for support for devfs (and devfs-style, > > e.g. udev devfs.rules) device naming? > No, but nearly all packages support both conventions. Nearly a

Bug#302278: ITP: libuser-identity-perl -- manages different identities/roles used for email

2005-03-30 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libuser-identity-perl Version : 0.90 Upstream Author : Mark Overmeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://perlovermeer.net/userid/ * License : GPL + artistic Description

Bug#302235: ITP: authconfig -- Text/Graphical tool for setting up NIS, LDAP, kerberos and shadow passwords.

2005-03-30 Thread root
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ghe Rivero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: authconfig Version : 4.6.11 Upstream Author : Nalin Dahyabhai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/config-tools/authconfig.html * License : GPL De

Re: Standard description file about maintainer groups

2005-03-30 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Ola Lundqvist dijo [Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 10:37:33AM +0200]: > > * Sean Perry [Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:36:49 -0800]: > > > > > Source: mysource > > > Maintainer: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Maintainers: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > I left the Maintainer in place to a

Re: Add a project to debian

2005-03-30 Thread Ben Hill
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 00:22 +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > This is all a bit confusing; there has been a diagram of the way a > package floats around posted here recently, do a search for debian > package diagram or similar on google. http://debian.home.pipeline.com/newdebian2.png HTH Ben -- [

Bug#302242: ITP: php4-dbase -- dBase module for php4

2005-03-30 Thread Kim Lundgren
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kim Lundgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: php4-dbase Version : 4.3.10 Upstream Author : The PHP Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.php.net/ * License : (PHP

CALL WwAVE cANCELATION

2005-03-30 Thread ERNRDT PODLUVKY
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Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread Frank Küster
Ian Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 16:56 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > >> There is a way to cause make to re-read a Makefile: Makefile remaking. >> >> debian/rules: debian/rules.in >> $(command that recreates debian/rules) --infile $< --outfile $@ >> >> ... make

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread Masato Taruishi
> It seems tha dpatch cannot be trivially used to patch debian/rules > when the patch target is called implicitly. Note that it works if > I invoke build and then binary separately. If I invoke binary, which > depends on build, the patches are applied, but the debian/rules file > is already read a

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread Ian Campbell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 16:56 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > There is a way to cause make to re-read a Makefile: Makefile remaking. > > debian/rules: debian/rules.in > $(command that recreates debian/rules) --infile $< --outfile $@ > > ... make will reread the file after it has updated it. doe

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * martin f krafft [Wed, Mar 30 2005, 04:00:21PM]: > also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.30.1529 > +0200]: > > Well, I had never heard of anyone crazy enough to patch > > debian/rules at runtime... You're the first. > > Yeah! > > We are packaging zope-c

Re: Bug#302138: incorrect Description line wrapping with bullet lists

2005-03-30 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wednesday 30 March 2005 11:44 am, Andrew Suffield wrote: > I know of at least two such languages. Don't include 'o'. Ok, will do. Or, um, not do. Daniel -- /--- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --\ |Human beings were created by water to transpor

Re: Bug#302138: incorrect Description line wrapping with bullet lists

2005-03-30 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 09:56:36AM -0500, Daniel Burrows wrote: > Bullet characters are (maybe) "-", "+", "*", and "o"; the frontend may > render them literally or modify their appearence as it deems appropriate. > NOTE: it might be a good idea to exclude "o"; I doubt many packages use "o" >

Re: Bug#302138: incorrect Description line wrapping with bullet lists

2005-03-30 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wednesday 30 March 2005 09:56 am, Daniel Burrows wrote: >   A line beginning with two or more spaces, followed by a bullet character > and a space, is considered to be an element of a bulleted list.  Every > succeeding line that begins with N+1 or more spaces, where N is the number > of spaces p

Re: Bug#302138: incorrect Description line wrapping with bullet lists

2005-03-30 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wednesday 30 March 2005 05:19 am, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > Ideally, all packaging tools would support some kind of very simple > markup language to support enumerations in a sane way, but that's a > long-term project. There's room in the description standard for future extensions: quoti

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread Frank Küster
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.30.1529 > +0200]: >> Well, I had never heard of anyone crazy enough to patch >> debian/rules at runtime... You're the first. > > Yeah! > > We are packaging zope-common from Ubuntu fo

Re: Add a project to debian

2005-03-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 02:30:26PM +, Alex Papadopoulos wrote: > Ok thanks for the quick reply. Another question though that I forgot > before, if the sponsor uploads the packages is he automatically the > maintainer of the package (because if this is the case, then it means that > sponsorin

Re: Add a project to debian

2005-03-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Alex Papadopoulos wrote: > Ok thanks for the quick reply. Another question though that I forgot > before, if the sponsor uploads the packages is he automatically the > maintainer of the package (because if this is the case, then it means that Yes and no. He is as responsib

Re: Add a project to debian

2005-03-30 Thread Alex Papadopoulos
Ok thanks for the quick reply. Another question though that I forgot before, if the sponsor uploads the packages is he automatically the maintainer of the package (because if this is the case, then it means that sponsoring is a very demanding process for him, and makes therefore sponsoring a qui

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.30.1602 > +0200]: > > I don't think so, other than using makefile includes. > > Uh, these are also only read once... Change them BEFORE the ubuntu build. -- "One disk to rule th

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.30.1615 +0200]: > Why not simply do a ifeq($(DISTRIB),Ubuntu) around that and define > DISTRIB at the top of the Makefile? This way you can use the same > debian/rules for Ubuntu and Debian and don't need to use evil > patch systems.

Re: Add a project to debian

2005-03-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 02:18:28PM +, Alex Papadopoulos wrote: > After having read the documentations I understood that I needed to apply as > a new maintainer (with the appropriate identification process, needing an > "advocate" Debian developper) and then find a sponsor that would accept >

Re: FW: Contact Information

2005-03-30 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op di, 29-03-2005 te 11:52 -0700, schreef Annabelle Garcia: > I am sorry to bother you again. I am just following up to see if there > is any way you can direct me to the right contact. Debian is not a company, it is a volunteer-based effort. -- EARTH smog | bricks AIR -- mud

Add a project to debian

2005-03-30 Thread Alex Papadopoulos
Hello, I am interested in adding a project into the Debian Project and wanted to ask a couple of questions on how to achieve this. After having read the documentations I understood that I needed to apply as a new maintainer (with the appropriate identification process, needing an "advocate" Deb

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Parts of debian/rules are Ubuntu-specific (e.g. mv README.Debian > README.Ubuntu) and we would love to have that removed. Why not simply do a ifeq($(DISTRIB),Ubuntu) around that and define DISTRIB at the top of the Makefile? This way you can use the sa

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Alexander Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050330 16:09]: > Just out of curiosity: Why do you need to do this? Sorry, was out of synch and just got your other mail. Yours sincerely, Alexander signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050330 14:08]: > It seems tha dpatch cannot be trivially used to patch debian/rules > when the patch target is called implicitly. Just out of curiosity: Why do you need to do this? Yours sincerely, Alexander signature.asc Description: Digital signatur

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.30.1602 +0200]: > I don't think so, other than using makefile includes. Uh, these are also only read once... -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, martin f krafft wrote: > but I was wondering if there is a better way... I don't think so, other than using makefile includes. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.30.1529 +0200]: > Well, I had never heard of anyone crazy enough to patch > debian/rules at runtime... You're the first. Yeah! We are packaging zope-common from Ubuntu for Debian, patching it with dpatch to make it easier late

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread Michael Koch
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 10:29:41AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, martin f krafft wrote: > > It seems tha dpatch cannot be trivially used to patch debian/rules > > when the patch target is called implicitly. Note that it works if > > I invoke build and then binary

Re: Bug#301892: ITP: cuetools -- tools for manipulating CUE/TOC files

2005-03-30 Thread David Pashley
On Mar 30, 2005 at 12:38, Frank Küster praised the llamas by saying: > Alban Browaeys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Le Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:10:06 +0100, David Pashley a écrit : > > > >> What are CUE and TOC files? What are they used for? It would be useful > >> if you say a little bit more abo

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, martin f krafft wrote: > It seems tha dpatch cannot be trivially used to patch debian/rules > when the patch target is called implicitly. Note that it works if > I invoke build and then binary separately. If I invoke binary, which > depends on build, the patches are applied, bu

dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread martin f krafft
It seems tha dpatch cannot be trivially used to patch debian/rules when the patch target is called implicitly. Note that it works if I invoke build and then binary separately. If I invoke binary, which depends on build, the patches are applied, but the debian/rules file is already read and patches

Re: Development files for manipulating Debian packages

2005-03-30 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* "Ivan Kirchev" | Does Debian package management suite provide C APIs for | easier program manipulation of .deb files? No, dpkg does not provide any library you can use, yet. It's on the list of features planned. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`.

Re: Bug#301892: ITP: cuetools -- tools for manipulating CUE/TOC files

2005-03-30 Thread Frank Küster
Alban Browaeys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:10:06 +0100, David Pashley a écrit : > >> What are CUE and TOC files? What are they used for? It would be useful >> if you say a little bit more about them. > > Well i do not know if one can define CUE file shortly . This is like

Re: Should Debian use lsb init-functions?

2005-03-30 Thread Alban Browaeys
Le Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:06:19 -0600, Ron Johnson a écrit : > On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 06:31 +0200, Alban Browaeys wrote: >> Le Tue, 29 Mar 2005 01:09:55 +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar a écrit : >> >> > On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 02:24:03PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> >> For the record, it is not true

Re: Bug#302138: incorrect Description line wrapping with bullet lists

2005-03-30 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 04:42:24AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > Omitting the check for forced word-wrapping in bullets cuts down the > list of offenders drastically. The following are source packages that > actually display _incorrectly_ in dselect / aptitude because bullet > points incorrectly

Re: Bug#302138: incorrect Description line wrapping with bullet lists

2005-03-30 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Jeroen van Wolffelaar] > It seems like this list has a lot of false positives, take for example > php-mail-mime: > > | Description: PHP PEAR module for creating and decoding MIME messages > | Provides classes to deal with creation and manipulation of mime messages: > | . > | * mime.php: Crea

Re: Bug#301892: ITP: cuetools -- tools for manipulating CUE/TOC files

2005-03-30 Thread Alban Browaeys
Le Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:10:06 +0100, David Pashley a écrit : > What are CUE and TOC files? What are they used for? It would be useful > if you say a little bit more about them. Well i do not know if one can define CUE file shortly . This is like "ar" file but for cdroms "images" (not in the iso m

Re: duplicates of fonts in some packages

2005-03-30 Thread Alban Browaeys
Le Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:45:01 +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo a écrit : > Hello. > > I'm packaging adesklets stuff, and it cames with Vera.ttf font included. > We've got this font in ttf-bitstream-vera package, so I was wondering if is > it ok to duplicate it, since some packages are doing it alre

Re: Bug#302138: incorrect Description line wrapping with bullet lists

2005-03-30 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 03:54:36AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Peter Samuelson] > > I'd like to file a mass bug for these, but it's on the order of 583 > > binary packages in 430 source packages, so I obviously want to get > > some feedback first. > > Jeroen van Wolffelaar pointed out to m

Re: Bug#302138: incorrect Description line wrapping with bullet lists

2005-03-30 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Peter Samuelson] > I'd like to file a mass bug for these, but it's on the order of 583 > binary packages in 430 source packages, so I obviously want to get > some feedback first. Jeroen van Wolffelaar pointed out to me that 430 source packages is a bit much for a mass bug, especially if lintian/

Bug#302138: incorrect Description line wrapping with bullet lists

2005-03-30 Thread Peter Samuelson
Package: linda Version: 0.3.10 Severity: wishlist ObListCC: search for 'mass bug' below. Lots of packages have a Description field that includes a bullet list. There is no good way to do these, unfortunately, but lots of wrong ways. In particular, you'll cause incorrect line wrapping in dselect

No space left on device on haydn

2005-03-30 Thread Andreas Tille
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