Re: Status of Kernel 2.4.28 packages?

2005-01-09 Thread Joshua Kwan
Horms wrote: Debian isn't lowering priority on Linux 2.4 work but individual people are. I am one of the people who do work on 2.4 for debian, I won't raise the hands of others. Personally my focus is 2.4.27, because that is what will go into sarge and right now I don't have the time to do 2.4.2

Debianized ndiswrapper-source is better on SourceForge

2005-01-09 Thread William Ballard
All: Some of you have probably seen my gripes about ndiswrapper-source. I moved on past all that -- but upstream is debianizing it and it's better in many ways. The alternate location is: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/debian/ It contains: ndiswrapper-source_0.12-1_i386.deb dated 25-Nov-2004.

Re: updated debian development diagram -- comments?

2005-01-09 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 10:47:50AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 09 Jan 2005, Holger Levsen wrote: > > unstable is described as suited for "...laptops and desktops on > > non-critical > > systems..." > > testing is described as "... can be used for desktop systems that need

Re: Manpages licensed under GFDL without the license text included

2005-01-09 Thread Nick Phillips
On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 04:53:25PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> I think it's enough to add an additional notice stating that the named > >> section is reproduced in the gfdl(7) manpage, incorporated by > >> reference. > > > > I doubt that this would satisfy clause 4.H. of the G"F"DL: > > > >

Re: rudeness in general

2005-01-09 Thread Sam Watkins
On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 04:17:14PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: > I found RMS to be extremely rude and dismissive in the GFDL > discussions. (His outright refusal to comminicate with Branden > Robinson comes to mind.) Perhaps they were both rude, in different ways. Or perhaps it was a sort of mis

Re: Why does Debian distributed firmware not need to be Depends: upon? [was Re: LCC and blobs]

2005-01-09 Thread Peter 'p2' De Schrijver
>Firmware files are not the sort of thing people can create their own >versions of. In most cases the format is not documented and there >are no free or even publicly available tools for this, and even in >cases where it *is* documented, this is not by any stretch of the >imagi

Re: rudeness in general

2005-01-09 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 07:58:46AM +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: > We could even go a little further and try to avoid rudeness on the > mailing lists. I recently reviewed some of the conversations with RMS > on debian-legal regarding the GFDL. Several people were rude and > uncivil to RMS, even sarca

rudeness in general

2005-01-09 Thread Sam Watkins
On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 04:08:36PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Andrew Suffield wrote: > >* New upstream release (closes: #270944, #277543). It's less than two > > weeks since this was released; may you contract an interesting > > venereal disease. > > Is this really called for in chang

Re: Bug#289385: RFH: cdrtools -- searching co-maintainer for the package

2005-01-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
Joerg Jaspert writes: > >Package: wnpp >Severity: normal > >Hi > >Unfortunately we dont have the time the package needs, so help is >needed. Ideally you should know a bit of C and of Debian Packaging. You >should also know cdrecord/mkisofs and its friends and of course have a >cd burner at home to

Re: APT Repository HOWTO

2005-01-09 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Quoting "Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > * Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050109 16:49]: > > On 10164 March 1977, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > > > >> Instead of doing all this by hand I can recommend my own package > > >> debarchiver. The latest versions of it do this pretty good in >

Re: APT Repository HOWTO

2005-01-09 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Quoting Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 10164 March 1977, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > >> Instead of doing all this by hand I can recommend my own package > >> debarchiver. The latest versions of it do this pretty good in > >> an automatic way. > > Thanks. I'll add some information about i

Re: APT Repository HOWTO

2005-01-09 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Quoting "Simon Raven / Eric S. Côté" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Le dim 2005-01-09 a 10:18:30 -0500, Ola Lundqvist a dit: > > Hello > > > > > > > > http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr/?page=debrepository > > > > found a typo on the page: > > "...if I have pakcages ..." near the top. > > eric c./

Re: Manpages licensed under GFDL without the license text included

2005-01-09 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Bernhard R. Link [Sun, Jan 09 2005, 02:26:51PM]: > Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > nvtv: nvtvd.8.gz Oh, sorry, was not a deliberate act. (Must have been from the time when dh_make sugested this crappy license per default). Maintainer: Please relicense under the

Re: Manpages licensed under GFDL without the license text included

2005-01-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 01:20:15PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Bernhard R. Link wrote: > > Looking into sarge I found a number of manpages, that do not look > > redistributeable as they are licensed under the G"F"DL but do not > > include the full licence text needed to be distributeable. Especially

Bug#289545: ITP: gromit -- GTK based tool to make annotations on screen

2005-01-09 Thread Pierre Chifflier
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: gromit Version : 20041213 Upstream Author : Simon Budig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/gromit/ * License : GPL Description : GTK based tool to make annotations on screen Gr

Re: Manpages licensed under GFDL without the license text included

2005-01-09 Thread Joey Hess
Bernhard R. Link wrote: > Looking into sarge I found a number of manpages, that do not look > redistributeable as they are licensed under the G"F"DL but do not > include the full licence text needed to be distributeable. Especially > Debian-specific ones seem to be affected due to some templates d

Re: Why does Debian distributed firmware not need to be Depends: upon? [was Re: LCC and blobs]

2005-01-09 Thread William Ballard
On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 04:52:40PM +0100, Miguel Gea Milvaques wrote: > Hello, > I don't undestand why software loading files (as we are talking) must be > in contrib. An example: xpdf, if you have not a pdf file you could not > use it, only it gave us a blank page. You could read a lot of differen

Re: Why does Debian distributed firmware not need to be Depends: upon? [was Re: LCC and blobs]

2005-01-09 Thread Miguel Gea Milvaques
El dg 09 de 01 del 2005 a les 10:39 -0600, en/na Peter Samuelson va escriure: > [Miguel Gea Milvaques] > > I don't undestand why software loading files (as we are talking) must > > be in contrib. An example: xpdf, if you have not a pdf file you could > > not use it, only it gave us a blank page. Yo

Re: Why does Debian distributed firmware not need to be Depends: upon? [was Re: LCC and blobs]

2005-01-09 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Miguel Gea Milvaques] > I don't undestand why software loading files (as we are talking) must > be in contrib. An example: xpdf, if you have not a pdf file you could > not use it, only it gave us a blank page. You could read a lot of > different files, a free pdf files or a non-free pdf files, an

Bug#289537: O: systrace

2005-01-09 Thread Thorsten Sauter
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I decided to orphan the systrace packages (systrace, xsystrace, kernel-patch-systrace). I don't use anymore, and I have not enough time to give it any attention. If nobody picks the packages I request the removal from the archive. Package: systrace Description: E

Re: Why does Debian distributed firmware not need to be Depends: upon? [was Re: LCC and blobs]

2005-01-09 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2005-01-09 kello 16:52 +0100, Miguel Gea Milvaques kirjoitti: > Then if software as xpdf could be in main, software loading firmware > must be in main. Without commenting on the issue otherwise: This is not a working analogy. xpdf can load any PDF file. Device drivers can, typically, only load

Re: APT Repository HOWTO

2005-01-09 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050109 16:49]: > On 10164 March 1977, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > >> Instead of doing all this by hand I can recommend my own package > >> debarchiver. The latest versions of it do this pretty good in > >> an automatic way. > > Thanks. I'll add some information

Re: Manpages licensed under GFDL without the license text included

2005-01-09 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:53:25 +0100 Florian Weimer wrote: > * Francesco Poli: > > > On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:39:47 +0100 Florian Weimer wrote: > > > >> I think it's enough to add an additional notice stating that the > >> named section is reproduced in the gfdl(7) manpage, incorporated by > >> refer

Bug#289504: marked as done (bugs.debian.org: alt-gr key NOT WORKING !)

2005-01-09 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:36:46 + with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender] has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If

Re: Manpages licensed under GFDL without the license text included

2005-01-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* Francesco Poli: > On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:39:47 +0100 Florian Weimer wrote: > >> I think it's enough to add an additional notice stating that the named >> section is reproduced in the gfdl(7) manpage, incorporated by >> reference. > > I doubt that this would satisfy clause 4.H. of the G"F"DL: > >

Re: Why does Debian distributed firmware not need to be Depends: upon? [was Re: LCC and blobs]

2005-01-09 Thread Miguel Gea Milvaques
Hello, I don't undestand why software loading files (as we are talking) must be in contrib. An example: xpdf, if you have not a pdf file you could not use it, only it gave us a blank page. You could read a lot of different files, a free pdf files or a non-free pdf files, and xpdf we never thing to

Re: APT Repository HOWTO

2005-01-09 Thread Simon Raven / Eric S. CÃtÃ
Le dim 2005-01-09 a 10:18:30 -0500, Ola Lundqvist a dit: > Hello > > > > > http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr/?page=debrepository > found a typo on the page: "...if I have pakcages ..." near the top. eric c./ -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security

Re: APT Repository HOWTO

2005-01-09 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10164 March 1977, Roberto Sanchez wrote: >> Instead of doing all this by hand I can recommend my own package >> debarchiver. The latest versions of it do this pretty good in >> an automatic way. > Thanks. I'll add some information about it. Maybe you want to add a link to the "dak" suite too.

Re: Please test exim4 4.43 in experimental

2005-01-09 Thread Simon Raven / Eric S. CÃtÃ
Le dim 2005-01-09 a 04:12:39 -0500, Marc Haber a dit: > Hi, > > exim4 4.43-2 has been uploaded to experimental. The exim4 maintainers > consider to upload this package for sid and sarge. For this to happen, > we need testing. > > I would like to invite all readers to test exim4 4.43, which can be

Re: Manpages licensed under GFDL without the license text included

2005-01-09 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:39:47 +0100 Florian Weimer wrote: > I think it's enough to add an additional notice stating that the named > section is reproduced in the gfdl(7) manpage, incorporated by > reference. I doubt that this would satisfy clause 4.H. of the G"F"DL: H. Include an unalt

Processed: Re: Bug#289504: bugs.debian.org: alt-gr key NOT WORKING !

2005-01-09 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 289504 general Bug#289504: bugs.debian.org: alt-gr key NOT WORKING ! Bug reassigned from package `bugs.debian.org' to `general'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Debian bug tracking system administ

Re: APT Repository HOWTO

2005-01-09 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hello On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 09:44:26AM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Quoting Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hello > > > > Instead of doing all this by hand I can recommend my own package > > debarchiver. The latest versions of it do this pretty good in > > an automatic way. > > >

Re: APT Repository HOWTO

2005-01-09 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Quoting Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello > > Instead of doing all this by hand I can recommend my own package > debarchiver. The latest versions of it do this pretty good in > an automatic way. > > Just wanted to let you know. > > Regards, > > // Ola > I just added an "Alternatives"

Re: Manpages licensed under GFDL without the license text included

2005-01-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bernhard R. Link: > Looking into sarge I found a number of manpages, that do not look > redistributeable as they are licensed under the G"F"DL but do not > include the full licence text needed to be distributeable. I think it's enough to add an additional notice stating that the named section i

Re: Manpages licensed under GFDL without the license text included

2005-01-09 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 02:26:51PM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > Mark Brown: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > x86info: x86info.1.gz This isn't Debian-specific since I contributed it back upstream. I've contacted upstream about relicensing it under the GPL like the rest of the package

Re: [Fwd: Re: status of the DDTP project?]

2005-01-09 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 12:05:16AM -0300, Fred Ulisses Maranhao wrote: > The project is alive. But there are big problems. > > The server is not replying the e-mails with translations or reviews. > That means that volunteers are working without feedback. > > > > > PS. please CC me as I'm not subs

Re: APT Repository HOWTO

2005-01-09 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Ola Lundqvist wrote: Hello Instead of doing all this by hand I can recommend my own package debarchiver. The latest versions of it do this pretty good in an automatic way. Just wanted to let you know. Regards, // Ola Thanks. I'll add some information about it. -Roberto

Manpages licensed under GFDL without the license text included

2005-01-09 Thread Bernhard R. Link
Looking into sarge I found a number of manpages, that do not look redistributeable as they are licensed under the G"F"DL but do not include the full licence text needed to be distributeable. Especially Debian-specific ones seem to be affected due to some templates debhelper contained in the past.

Re: updated debian development diagram -- comments?

2005-01-09 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 09 Jan 2005, Holger Levsen wrote: > > unstable is described as suited for "...laptops and desktops on > > non-critical > > systems..." > > testing is described as "... can be used for desktop systems that need more > > stability.

Why does Debian distributed firmware not need to be Depends: upon? [was Re: LCC and blobs]

2005-01-09 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jan 08, Josh Triplett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > atmel-firmware . Would you argue that at76c503a-source should neither > > Depends: nor Recommends: atmel-firmware ? If so, why? If you changed > Yes. Read the debian-legal@ archive if you care abou

Re: New stable version after Sarge

2005-01-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Saturday 08 January 2005 07:45, Christian Perrier wrote: > So, if we imagine we release sarge at February 1st (ahah), just > immediately announce that etch will enter the first freeze stages > (base packages frozen, testing-security checked, d-i frozen) on August > 1st. > > This will give a

Re: updated debian development diagram -- comments?

2005-01-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005, Holger Levsen wrote: > unstable is described as suited for "...laptops and desktops on non-critical > systems..." > testing is described as "... can be used for desktop systems that need more > stability..." > > I think this both is wrong. Unstable and testing should not be

Re: updated debian development diagram -- comments?

2005-01-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, first I'd like to thank Kevin for his nice diagram! On Wednesday 05 January 2005 20:38, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Very nice! I expect to use it at some conferences (BTW: Looks like a > nice addition to Debian Eyecatcher[1], I'll add it :) ) but then I also got one concern, especially if this diag

Re: APT Repository HOWTO

2005-01-09 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hello Instead of doing all this by hand I can recommend my own package debarchiver. The latest versions of it do this pretty good in an automatic way. Just wanted to let you know. Regards, // Ola On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 02:52:29AM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > I know that there are several A

Re: LCC and blobs

2005-01-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 08, Josh Triplett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > atmel-firmware . Would you argue that at76c503a-source should neither > Depends: nor Recommends: atmel-firmware ? If so, why? If you changed Yes. Read the debian-legal@ archive if you care about the details. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc

Please test exim4 4.43 in experimental

2005-01-09 Thread Marc Haber
Hi, exim4 4.43-2 has been uploaded to experimental. The exim4 maintainers consider to upload this package for sid and sarge. For this to happen, we need testing. I would like to invite all readers to test exim4 4.43, which can be downloaded from the experimental distribution. My machines are runn

APT Repository HOWTO

2005-01-09 Thread Roberto Sanchez
I know that there are several APT repository HOWTOs floating around out there. However, none were particularly useful to me when I set out to make my own repository. Pretty much everyone out there focuses on the trivial repository format. I wanted to do it right and have a well-structured automat

Bug#289416: general: Typo's in dutch messages for dpkg and cat(libc?)

2005-01-09 Thread Christian Perrier
reassign 289416 coreutils tags 289416 l10n thanks Quoting Rene van Valkenburg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Package: general > Severity: minor > > > Running: su -c "apt-get --purge remove hello" > Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar > Boom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd... Klaar > De volgende pakket

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2005-01-09 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 289416 coreutils Bug#289416: general: Typo's in dutch messages for dpkg and cat(libc?) Bug reassigned from package `general' to `coreutils'. > tags 289416 l10n Bug#289416: general: Typo's in dutch messages for dpkg and cat(libc?) There were no