On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 12:12:56AM +0200, Bastiaan Naber wrote:
> I have updated my unstable box but my address auto completion does
> not work anymore in mozilla. Can anyone reproduce this ? It is
> annoying me as hell.
It seems that a "deeper" problem -- that of history information not
being s
On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 12:25:39PM +1000, Martin Pool wrote:
> "We don't care what the author wants, we have the legal right to
> change what we like" is not a good message to send. Even if you don't
Thankfully, Debian isn't sending this message.
Hans would apparently like people to believe that
On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 22:45:59 -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 06:54:42AM +0400, Hans Reiser wrote:
>> It is really a question of, do you respect the authors?
>
> Who do you respect, Hans? Many Debian Developers are also Free
> Software authors. How much respect are you sh
On Sat, 2003-04-19 at 23:41, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> 1. Is software licensed in the manner Hans intends DFSG-free? That is,
> is it DFSG-free to require that interactive programs output a full
NON-interactive programs. mkreiserfs is not interactive. It is passed
arguments on the command line, mak
On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 19:36:01 +0200, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I wondered whether this use of ucf is safe. If postinst fails for
> any reason, and package is reconfigured, the backup file is
> overwritten. An alternative is to abort postinst if -old already
> exists, and to remov
Don Armstrong writes:
> I (apparently incorrectly) presumed that debconf was also intended to
> allow for the eventual automation of replicated Debian installations.
I distinctly remember reading exactly that.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 07:58:10 +0900 (JST), Atsuhito Kohda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> From: Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bug#189370:
> acknowledged by developer (irrelevant) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003
> 11:23:26 +0100
>> On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 05:53:09PM +0900, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
Keep in mind you're talking to a bunch of people who are amoung the
staunchest free software advocates around. Unlike you, most of them make
$0 for all their contributions. Your implication that we're somehow
profiting from the removal of credits is ludicrous. In any case, there is
already a wid
On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:03:00 +0900 (JST), Atsuhito Kohda
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Okay, I guessed that the old /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf was a conffile but
> the current one is a configuration file so it's okay only reserving
> the old file as texmf.cnf.dpkg-old and explain how to migrate to the
>
[subscribed to -legal, not to -devel; Cc: accordingly]
On Sun, Apr 20, 2003 at 01:24:09AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Op za 19-04-2003, om 22:51 schreef Lukas Geyer:
> > the issue seems to be the fix of #152547. If we are not allowed to
> > remove a screenful of advertising from the output of
On Mon, 21 Apr 2003, Steve Greenland wrote:
> If you have a package that is asking only medium and lower priority
> debconf questions, then debconf should not be used at all.
I (apparently incorrectly) presumed that debconf was also intended to
allow for the eventual automation of replicated Debia
On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 02:44, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 12:25:11 +0400, Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > I want the same visibility of credits for reiserfs that movies give
> > for their actors.
>
> Now imagine if ls or grep wanted the list of contributors to
> be s
From: "Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bug#189370: acknowledged by developer (irrelevant)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 01:45:07 +0200
> >> Atsuhito Kohda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > In this case, administrator should modify TEXINPUTS.latex in
> > /etc/texmf/texmf.d/45TeXin
Roger Leigh wrote:
-SNIP- <
I'll be uploading new cupsys-driver-gimpprint packages in a few days,
once I've rebuilt and fully tested it. In the mean-time, installing
libcupsimage2 should make it work again.
Regards,
Roger
It works as stated with the current cupsys-driver-gimpprint from SID!
Tha
On Monday 21 April 2003 04:24 pm, Adam Heath wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2003, Keegan Quinn wrote:
> > On Monday 21 April 2003 03:29 pm, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
> > > Am I missing something?
> >
> > Only the fact that, as Debian maintainer, you do not have the right to
> > decide which files Debian users
>> Atsuhito Kohda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In this case, administrator should modify TEXINPUTS.latex in
> /etc/texmf/texmf.d/45TeXinputs.cnf and run update-texmf once.
> Generated texmf.cnf should be the same as an old one.
What makes you think that special casing the Debian installation
> > I have updated my unstable box but my address auto completion does not
> > work
> > anymore in mozilla. Can anyone reproduce this ? It is annoying me as hell.
> >
> Ditto. I did the annoying switch to mozilla-snapshot where completion works,
> and Mozilla actually keeps accepting keyboard
On Mon, 21 Apr 2003, Keegan Quinn wrote:
> On Monday 21 April 2003 03:29 pm, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
> > Am I missing something?
>
> Only the fact that, as Debian maintainer, you do not have the right to decide
> which files Debian users may or may not edit. Policy says they can do as
> they like,
At 8:31 am, Tuesday, April 22 2003, Bastiaan Naber mumbled:
> I have updated my unstable box but my address auto completion does not work
> anymore in mozilla. Can anyone reproduce this ? It is annoying me as hell.
>
Ditto. I did the annoying switch to mozilla-snapshot where completion works,
On Monday 21 April 2003 03:29 pm, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
> Am I missing something?
Only the fact that, as Debian maintainer, you do not have the right to decide
which files Debian users may or may not edit. Policy says they can do as
they like, regardless if you like it or your packages care for
From: Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bug#189370: acknowledged by developer (irrelevant)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 11:23:26 +0100
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 05:53:09PM +0900, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
> > From: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > > So you do not understand the value
Package: wnpp
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* Package name: cl-units
Version : 2003.04.18
Upstream Author : Gordon S. Novak Jr.
* URL : http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/novak/units.html
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From: "Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bug#189370: acknowledged by developer (irrelevant)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 12:17:15 +0200
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 05:53:09PM +0900, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
>
> > The current texmf.cnf of Debian is completely the same as the one
> > ups
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Donald Spoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I can confirm that it does break cupsys-driver-gimpprint and
> foomatic-bin because I missed this message, and my CUPS printing
> system quit working on about 16 Apr. These remain broken as of 20 Apr
> 2003.
Hi,
I have updated my unstable box but my address auto completion does not work
anymore in mozilla. Can anyone reproduce this ? It is annoying me as hell.
Tnx,
Bastiaan
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 04:30:54PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > What would a Debian Usability project do?
> What about looking at the new installer, and give suggestions to how
> it can be made easier to understand and user for new users?
Good one. As you can probably see, I'm pretty bu
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 10:11:48PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> Maybe the maintainer just has no clue about how UTF should work in
> that particular application and can't do much about it other than wait
> until upstream has a clue and implements it.
I'm in this position, I'm upstream and mai
mandag 21. april 2003, 02:35, skrev Steve Langasek:
> Please see the bug list for the php4 and php4-imap packages. The
> appropriate place to inquire about package-specific bugs is the BTS, not
> debian-devel.
>
> This bug is being worked on; in fact, it seems the believed-fixed
> package has just
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 08:07:19AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
> Well, I certainly hope he doesn't want the kind of visibility that the
> studio and producer have. Can you imagine it?
>
> # mkreiserfs
>
> [clear screen]
>
>
>
>
> N A M E S Y S
[...]
Dude,
Nikolai Prokoschenko wrote:
> Hello,
Thanks for your input.
> I really don't know how to express what I want to say :) It has come
> to my mind a few days ago when the Vera fonts were released to public.
> My problem was: everybody was acting like mad, screaming "at last,
> some good fonts for li
retitle 189820 ITA: glide -- development files for libglide3
retitle 189952 ITA: device3dfx -- Device driver source for 3Dfx boards for 2.2+
kernels
thanks
Hi,
I'll adopt those packages, and will start triaging all bugs. But I only
have a Voodoo3 2000 PCI, so I would like to have one or more co-
> > c) If the modified program normally reads commands interactively
> > when run, you must cause it, when started running for such
> > interactive use in the most ordinary way, to print or display an
> > announcement including an appropriate copyright notice and a
> > notice th
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On Monday 21 April 2003 19:52, José Luis Tallón wrote:
> IMVHO, there is an intermediate alternative: why not ...
> ... create a new x86-64 architecture
> ... tweak dpkg so that ${DEB_ARCH}=="x86-64" admits both i386 and x86-64
> binaries;
> Naturally,
( forgot to Reply to the list, sorry )
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 20:58:20 +0200
To: Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: José Luis Tallón <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian for x86-64 (AMD Opteron)
At 20:23 21/04/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Le lun 21/04/2003 à 19:52, José Luis Tallón a écrit :
>
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Op za 19-04-2003, om 22:51 schreef Lukas Geyer:
> > the issue seems to be the fix of #152547. If we are not allowed to
> > remove a screenful of advertising from the output of a program, then
> > this unduly restricts the freedom to distribute modified v
"Matt Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Unfortunately your choice is rather weak and doesn't back up your
> argument so I feel obliged to continue the thread a bit further
> (plus its giving my brain some exercise).
>
> [Oh yeah, the quotes are from some developer who's name I've
> promised not
Le lun 21/04/2003 à 19:52, José Luis Tallón a écrit :
> IMVHO, there is an intermediate alternative: why not ...
> ... create a new x86-64 architecture
> ... tweak dpkg so that ${DEB_ARCH}=="x86-64" admits both i386 and x86-64
> binaries;
> Naturally, x86-64 ("native") would be preferred to i386
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 06:33:49PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote:
> And the bit that the "jumped up developers" don't seem to understand is the
> co-operation and consensus. I constantly see comments on how we should
> restrict the number of maintainers, how we need to make sure everyone's
> packages meas
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 07:50:11PM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote:
> Missed that mail. I remember the discussion on what should checksecurity
> include though. Please notice I have include many of the modules we wanted
> in Tiger.
It may have been a private mail; the way I rememb
* Matt Ryan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> There are no ranks in Debian, no one gets paid (AFAIK) and so no view is
> more or less valid than another. I think a small minority of developers can
> easily get identified as pushing their own agendas if we did an informal
> poll on this list. Those are t
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 06:33:49PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote:
> [more of the same]
Plonk.
--
- mdz
At 01:18 22/04/2003 +1000, you wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 21:18, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> Why don't we consider the x86-64 as beeing a 64-bits-only architecture
Because we want to run Netscape, commercial games, Frauhofer MP3 en/decoders,
Oracle, and other binary-only i386 software.
If AMD had mad
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 06:27:33PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
>
> I agreed to take over this checksecurity package, when the maintain
> finds the time to split it out from cron. There was some discussion
> about it recently upon debian-devel.
Missed that mail. I remember the discussion on what
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 07:48:08PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On 20 Apr 2003, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
> > OK, thanks. Here (http://people.debian.org/~terminus/debian-lex/) is a
> > rough Web page which I have shamelessly plagiarised from your Debian-Med
> > project.
> I just builded the Debian-me
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 11:40:49AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:31:10 +0200, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 02:15:59AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > [...]
> >> Over writing user changes is a violation of policy. Asking users i
Unfortunately your choice is rather weak and doesn't back up your argument
so I feel obliged to continue the thread a bit further (plus its giving my
brain some exercise).
[Oh yeah, the quotes are from some developer who's name I've promised not to
use in my emails]
> ...and telling Ben Collins t
On 20 Apr 2003, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
> OK, thanks. Here (http://people.debian.org/~terminus/debian-lex/) is a
> rough Web page which I have shamelessly plagiarised from your Debian-Med
> project.
I just builded the Debian-med pages just for this purpose by
shamelessly plagiarising from Debian-Jr
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 07:16:01PM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote:
> That's what Tiger calls 'signatures'. It's pretty easy to do at the moment,
> but I have not updated signatures for Debian for quite some time. If you
> intend to keep a database you also have to consider that for
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 01:52:18PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 09:05:58AM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a
> wrote:
>
> > It doesn't tackle the issue of dpkg _not_ storing filesystem permissions.
> > This makes it not feasible to easily recover the system after a 'chm
On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:31:10 +0200, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 02:15:59AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> [...]
>> Over writing user changes is a violation of policy. Asking users if
>> it is ok with them if we violate policy is not good enough.
> [...]
On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 11:15:46 -0400, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 11:21:59AM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote:
>> > Perhaps it would, if it had not come on the tails of a string of
>> unwarranted
>> > insults against other developers (most of whom seem to agree with
>>
On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 12:25:11 +0400, Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I want the same visibility of credits for reiserfs that movies give
> for their actors.
Now imagine if ls or grep wanted the list of contributors to
be scrolled past, slowly, on every invocation, and insisted t
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 10:08:57AM +0400, Hans Reiser wrote:
> I find it unspeakably ingrateful to Stallman that some of you begrudge
> him his right to express his (discomforting to some) views to all who
> use his software, and to ensure that they are not removed by those suits
> who are disco
Scott Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> The maintainer of gdm doesnt want to upload it till some key components
> build on all archs. Basically he doesnt want to leave certain
> archs(which he uses) without a gdm. Also I believe he is one of the FTP
This is false because even if the l
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 03:49:43PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
[...]
> Honestly you should not be so upset by these debconf abuses about
> configuration files overwriting, this is a difficult issue and AFAICT
> documentation does not help.
Correction, debconf-devel(7) explains how to do it right,
On Mon Apr 21, 10:05am -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 19-Apr-03, 11:44 (CDT), David B Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > From debconf-devel(8): "low: Very trivial items that have defaults that
> > will work in the vast majority of cases; oinly control freaks see
> > these."
>
> If you
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 02:15:59AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
[...]
> Over writing user changes is a violation of policy. Asking
> users if it is ok with them if we violate policy is not good
> enough.
[...]
I would be glad to learn why ucf does it right.
In your opinion, is proftpd a
On 20-Apr-03, 21:14 (CDT), Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Windows-centric"? FFS, where do you think the term "registry" /comes/
> from?
While the term registry comes from Windows, it's worth noting that AIX
had the equivalent ('object manager') (which has nothing to do with OOP)
On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 11:21:59 +0100, Matt Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> All I have said to date is that the overwrite question was suggested
> in the past by another developer as a way of dealing with the
> problem when it came up before. Some of us implemented the
> suggestion and it seems no
On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 21:18, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> Why don't we consider the x86-64 as beeing a 64-bits-only architecture
Because we want to run Netscape, commercial games, Frauhofer MP3 en/decoders,
Oracle, and other binary-only i386 software.
If AMD had made a 64bit only CPU and devoted thos
Florian Weimer wrote:
> Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I want the same visibility of credits for reiserfs that movies give
> > for their actors.
>
> So you are concerned with the missing ad when mkreiserfs runs?
>
> In this case, your analogy is wrong. The message does not give
On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 08:04:38 -0400, Theodore Ts'o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> This issue has degenerated to name calling at this point, and in
> other threads, Godwin's law has even been invoked, perhaps not to
> great effect.
Yeah, I lost it in the last exchange.
> I agree with you Man
On 19-Apr-03, 11:44 (CDT), David B Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From debconf-devel(8): "low: Very trivial items that have defaults that
> will work in the vast majority of cases; oinly control freaks see
> these."
>From Debian policy, 11.7.3, regarding how to achieve the requirement of
On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:53:09 +0900 (JST), Atsuhito Kohda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> From: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re:
> Bug#189370: acknowledged by developer (irrelevant) Date: Mon, 21 Apr
> 2003 02:18:35 -0500
>> So you do not understand the value of being compatible wit
On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 12:36:10 +0200, Ulrich Eckhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Sunday 20 April 2003 22:30, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> If the upstream author is rude to me, he does not deserve any
>> consideration from myself. If he chooses to alienate his
>> clientele, he should expect to re
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 11:21:59AM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote:
> > Perhaps it would, if it had not come on the tails of a string of
> unwarranted
> > insults against other developers (most of whom seem to agree with my
> > ideas on the technical subject under discussion).
>
> The closest I got to an
On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 12:07:24 +0100, Matt Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> I would like to point out that support for the Mail-Followup-To
>> header is not required. It is sufficient that the mail client lets
>> you edit the headers before sending the mail. This works in all
>> mail clients I'm a
* Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 18:25, Hans Reiser wrote:
> > I want the same visibility of credits for reiserfs that movies give for
> > their actors.
>
> 30 seconds after the movie ends the cinema is 95% empty and the credits are
> only just started. Only the f
[Enrico Zini]
> What would a Debian Usability project do?
What about looking at the new installer, and give suggestions to how
it can be made easier to understand and user for new users?
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 01:10:47AM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> This aside, it's very clear to me that responding to Hans is a complete
> waste of time. He's trolling. If he's just going to keep ranting aimlessly,
> I'd say Debian can only assume we're in violation of whatever the license
> is,
* Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Matt Ryan (2003-04-21 11:03:49 +0100) :
>
> > Again, if anyone knows of another client that supports both
> > requirements I'll give it a go.
>
> A good mail client that works on Windows, provides IMAP and obeys
> standard headers? I suggest Gnus. It does all
On Sat, Apr 19, 2003 at 11:03:03AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Denis Barbier wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 18, 2003 at 07:14:19PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> > > Enough already.
> > >
> > > Folks, if you don't stop abusing debconf with useless notes that belong
> > > in README.Debian and config file overwrit
Matt Ryan (2003-04-21 11:03:49 +0100) :
> Again, if anyone knows of another client that supports both
> requirements I'll give it a go.
A good mail client that works on Windows, provides IMAP and obeys
standard headers? I suggest Gnus. It does all that, and more.
Roland.
--
Roland Mas
Sauvez
On Sat, Apr 19, 2003 at 09:43:05PM +0200, Martin Loschwitz wrote:
> can you please inform the list and me about the current status of the
> mICQ code audit you two wanted to do? It's been a while and I didn't
> hear anything further from you since then.
>
> However, since it is my principle to f
I use both Mutt and OE to read my E-mail (mostly mutt). The one feature
OE has (on both mac and windows) that NO other client I've seen matches
(Mozilla 1.0 came close, haven't tried since then) is its support for
offline IMAP. This e-mail comes to you via putty on my laptop being
NAT'd via my debi
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 09:17:42AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> I know many people think so, and were amazed when i ran a ppc kernel
> cross compiled on m68k on my apus amiga. Which ran very stably indeed.
Kernels, and the toolchain, are amoung the few things which can be
cross-compiled fairly reli
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 09:05:58AM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote:
> It doesn't tackle the issue of dpkg _not_ storing filesystem permissions.
> This makes it not feasible to easily recover the system after a 'chmod -R
> go-rwx /' besides reinstalling all the packages (that's why I p
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 11:08:04AM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote (and CC'd me):
> > (the irony is almost too much to bear)
> Why? I have 5 PC's here (at home) and 4 of them run Debian (mixture of
> stable, testing and unstable). I have one Windows box that I use for email
> and web browsing as I happen t
On Sat, 2003-04-19 at 23:36, Juhapekka Tolvanen wrote:
> Package: gdm
> Version: 2.2.5.5-2
>
>
> That version of gdm is fscking ancient! maintainer of that package
> really needs a clue. I got version 2.4.1.3-1woody1 with these apt-lines:
>
> deb
> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniu
This issue has degenerated to name calling at this point, and in other
threads, Godwin's law has even been invoked, perhaps not to great
effect.
I agree with you Manoj, as I suspect most people who have commented on
this list, but perhaps this is time to refer the issue to the
Technical Committee,
On Mon, 2003-04-21 at 12:58, Jarno Elonen wrote:
> > It's also worth considering that perhaps there is a language difference
> > (does Hans have English as a first language?) that make it seem that the
> > email seem harsher than it really is. Many Europeans are naturally very
> > honest with what
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 11:14:05AM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote:
> It's also worth considering that perhaps there is a language difference
> (does Hans have English as a first language?) that make it seem that the
> email seem harsher than it really is. Many Europeans are naturally very
> honest with wha
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 12:07:24PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote:
> Trouble is I need to know what the sender of the email, I'm replying to,
> wanted in regards to getting copies of the response to both list and direct.
> One could manually parse the email headers and set the reply appropriately
> but thi
On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 18:25, Hans Reiser wrote:
> I want the same visibility of credits for reiserfs that movies give for
> their actors.
30 seconds after the movie ends the cinema is 95% empty and the credits are
only just started. Only the first few names get seen, and those are the ones
that a
Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Anything to do with the ability to mix-and-match 32 and 64-bit code in this
>> processors?
>
> Yes.
Is there a reason for mixing 32 and 64 bits ? Isn't it just a feature
included in the processor because other proprietary operating systems
(and all th
> I would like to point out that support for the Mail-Followup-To header
> is not required. It is sufficient that the mail client lets you edit the
> headers before sending the mail. This works in all mail clients I'm
> aware of, even if some of them make things a bit awkward.
Trouble is I need to
> It's also worth considering that perhaps there is a language difference
> (does Hans have English as a first language?) that make it seem that the
> email seem harsher than it really is. Many Europeans are naturally very
> honest with what they say and at first this comes across as been rude/blun
On ma, 2003-04-21 at 13:03, Matt Ryan wrote:
> As another developer has pointed out, I'm not running Debian on this box.
> There are plenty of other email clients for Windows, but I suspect that all
> of them are going to be somewhat lax in following follow-up headers in
> email.
I would like to p
On Sunday 20 April 2003 22:30, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> If the upstream author is rude to me, he does not deserve any
> consideration from myself. If he chooses to alienate his clientele,
> he should expect to reap what he sowed.
Buit, this doesn't get any problems solved. Using 'an
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 05:53:09PM +0900, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
> From: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > So you do not understand the value of being compatible with
> > other TeX installations? You think it is not arrogant for Debian to
> > assume the rest of the world also runs Debi
> Ah, pissing contest. OK, I have been building TeX since 1989,
> when we used to buy tapes and compile TeX on a dozen Unix systems at
> the university. This was before TeTeX, before Debian, and even Before
> Linux. So, I have 14 years of experience with TeX -- how much more do
> I need to hav
> Perhaps it would, if it had not come on the tails of a string of
unwarranted
> insults against other developers (most of whom seem to agree with my ideas
> on the technical subject under discussion).
The closest I got to an insult was accusing Manoj of having a prune up his
rear. In comparison I
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 05:53:09PM +0900, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
> The current texmf.cnf of Debian is completely the same as the one
> upstream teTeX provided, if no local modification files are put in
> /etc/texmf/texmf.d/ There is no specific for Debian at all.
Gosh, read what Manoj's been
> The difficulty of their character unfortunately often seems to correlate
with
> the important of their software. ;) So even if the upstreams sometimes
heats
> up easily, please spend extra patience on them for the sake of the users.
> Pretty please.. I'd really hate to lose something like Reiserf
> > No offence taken. I joined when Debian wasn't run by anal
> > retentives. Sure there was the whole free software part - but not
> > the SS Nazi version of free software that is being prompted
> > recently. I have to say that I'm beginning to think that your
> > assessment is right and I should
> True, however it seems clear that he is not running Debian.
This is the case as you have noticed.
> (the irony is almost too much to bear)
Why? I have 5 PC's here (at home) and 4 of them run Debian (mixture of
stable, testing and unstable). I have one Windows box that I use for email
and web
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On Mon, 2003-04-21 at 08:08, Hans Reiser wrote:
> I find it unspeakably ingrateful to Stallman that some of you begrudge
> him his right to express his (discomforting to some) views to all who
> use his software, and to ensure that they are not remo
> > Apologies, 'reply-all' is not clever enough in Outlook Express to
> > evaluate the sender preference on being copied on list emails. Any
> > suggestions for a MUA that can perform this feat are appreciated.
>
> Any mailer that honours the Mail-Followup-To: header that I set would do
> nicely. T
> ["About" menu item]
> First time users go to them expecting to find out what
> the program does, and instead they get the name of the author and remain
> just as puzzled about what the program itself is for as they were
> before. I hate them.
I see.. :) It has become a GUI idiom though, so most
Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I want the same visibility of credits for reiserfs that movies give
> for their actors.
So you are concerned with the missing ad when mkreiserfs runs?
In this case, your analogy is wrong. The message does not give proper
credit to developers (actors), b
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