On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 02:12:46PM +1000, Sam Couter wrote:
> > Therefore, without emotion and with a pragmatic hand to guide me, I
> > feel that English should be an alias for en_US.
>
> s/without emotion/with typical American patriotism/
> s/pragmatic/dogmatic/
Patriotism != jingoism.
--
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 10:08:04PM -0600, Russel Ingram wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Craig Sanders wrote:
>
> > > I've used the make-kpkg command to create kernel packages, but they
> > > always come out with a custom-1.00 label on them and I haven't figured
> > > out how to get around that.
> >
Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Having the English think that British English is the lingua franca of
> the computing world is the same as the French thinking that French
> is the lingua franca of the world. It's only wishful thinking.
And how is that different to Americans thinking
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > I've used the make-kpkg command to create kernel packages, but they
> > always come out with a custom-1.00 label on them and I haven't figured
> > out how to get around that.
>
> RTFM. see the --revision option.
Does anyone else on this list see this
As a practical standpoint, the localization choices for English go
well beyond spelling... each English variant by definition
incorporates local variations in date format, currencies, etc. (Even
en_IE and en_GB aren't the same any more, due to the Euro.)
Seems to me that "American English", "Aust
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 01:39:38PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 25-Sep-01, 22:59 (CDT), Anthony Towns wrote:
> > and filing, what, a dozen new bugs against ftp.debian.org every week is
> > something other than harassment [0]?
> How is it harrasment?
How is it not?
"Well, clearly after ma
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 09:07:27PM -0400, Sean Middleditch wrote:
> On Wed, 2001-09-26 at 20:50, Ben Burton wrote:
> >
> > > British English is beautiful where it appears in poems, plays, and
> > > novels by Shakespeare and Wilde and other brilliant English authors.
> > > It certainly does N
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Bill Wohler wrote:
> I think English should be an alias for en_US.
Of course you do; you're /from/ the US.
> Having the English think that British English is the lingua franca of
> the computing world is the same as the French thinking that French
> is the lingua fra
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 08:42:31AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> The point being? We do not have to waste time with that now, at least not
> with the kernel. We still need not to get too trigger happy with hardware
> and firmware, but otherwise...
>
> I won't help a Microsoft window
also sprach Duncan Findlay (on Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:54:40PM -0400):
> But, putting my own radical beliefs aside, I think that English should
> definitely be an alias for en_GB, seeing how "American" really isn't "English"
> per se.
agreed!
martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.
On Wed, 2001-09-26 at 20:50, Ben Burton wrote:
>
> > British English is beautiful where it appears in poems, plays, and
> > novels by Shakespeare and Wilde and other brilliant English authors.
> > It certainly does NOT belong in the ls man page.
>
> Why such emphasis? The idea is to spell
also sprach bart bunting (on Thu, 27 Sep 2001 10:32:52AM +1000):
> I have a long standing open ITP for squirrelmail. For various reasons
> I am unable to finish the package to my satisfaction and have been
> looking for someone to take it on. I have a mostly finished package
> with a couple of sm
> British English is beautiful where it appears in poems, plays, and
> novels by Shakespeare and Wilde and other brilliant English authors.
> It certainly does NOT belong in the ls man page.
Why such emphasis? The idea is to spell words like "colour" instead of
"color", not to write the ls
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 05:32:08PM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote:
> I think English should be an alias for en_US.
>
> Having the English think that British English is the lingua franca of
> the computing world is the same as the French thinking that French
> is the lingua franca of the world. I
Package: wnpp
Version: 0.96; reported 2001-09-27
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: links-lua-ssl
Version : 0.96p11
Upstream Author : links-lua team
* URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/links/
* License : GPL
Description : a fork of links supporting lua
Hi,
I have a long standing open ITP for squirrelmail. For various reasons
I am unable to finish the package to my satisfaction and have been
looking for someone to take it on. I have a mostly finished package
with a couple of small bugs in it if anyone is interested in taking it
over.
See the
I think English should be an alias for en_US.
Having the English think that British English is the lingua franca of
the computing world is the same as the French thinking that French
is the lingua franca of the world. It's only wishful thinking.
British English is beautiful where it app
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 01:12:52PM -0600, Russel Ingram wrote:
> Pardon me if I sound like a newbie here. I am fairly new to the
> Debian way, but I am a Linux veteran. I have noticed that there are
> patches available in the debian package tree for the XFS filesystem
> but there are no available
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 06:53:54PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
>
> Thanks. Does anything else use '-t none'?
i don't know, not that i know of, but i wouldn't rule it out in the
future given `none' is pretty generic.
> (And why does mount(8) document '--bind' but not '-t none' or '-o
> bind'?)
On 26-Sep-01, 18:31 (CDT), Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 06:15:34PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > I've a request to have checksecurity skip searching filesystems with
> > type 'none' (not device 'none'). A brief check leads me to believe that
> > these are r
also sprach Christian Kurz (on Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:11:07AM +0200):
> But having a link from either the config-files in /etc/bind to $CHROOT
> or in the other direction, could be in my opinion a security risk. In my
> opinion there should be absolutely no link from $CHROOT to any file
> outside the
also sprach Junichi Uekawa (on Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:23:32PM +0900):
> By the way, are we talking about running bind as non-root
> inside a chroot, or
> are we talking about running bind as root inside a chroot?
is that a serious question? just *why* would you ever run bind9 as
root?
martin;
also sprach Tollef Fog Heen (on Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:25:15AM +0200):
> The right way is, imho, the way postfix deals with it. It took quite
> some time before I discovered it chrooted itself.
i disagree stronlgy mainly because of things like tripwire, which i
think should be scanning *everything*
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 06:15:34PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> I've a request to have checksecurity skip searching filesystems with
> type 'none' (not device 'none'). A brief check leads me to believe that
> these are result of mount --bind, which means that the mount in question
correct, moun
I've a request to have checksecurity skip searching filesystems with
type 'none' (not device 'none'). A brief check leads me to believe that
these are result of mount --bind, which means that the mount in question
is either searched or skipped in its "real" location, and need not be
searched in its
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 08:30:48AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 12:36:29PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > How is that sane? I'm parsing that as "(foo OR bar OR baz) AND foo",
> > which is the same as "(bar OR baz) AND foo", right?
>
> Err, "(foo OR bar OR baz) AND foo
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 12:36:29PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> How is that sane? I'm parsing that as "(foo OR bar OR baz) AND foo",
> which is the same as "(bar OR baz) AND foo", right?
Err, "(foo OR bar OR baz) AND foo" != "(bar or baz) AND foo",
because it can also be "foo AND foo" (= "foo"
Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> AFAIK mount -o ro --bind /etc/ foo/etc does not mount readonly. So
> there would be write access to the root partition in the chroot.
If they are not writable by the user of the chroot process, that isn't
a problem. If the attacker gets root, the use
Andreas Metzler wrote:
>
>
> Yes, if you want mp3-Encoding.
>
> I see that it links against libvorbis, so perhaps sometime it'll
> be possible to use vorbis for soundcompression.
> cu andreas
Yep - as soon as we will have more programmers in avifile team :)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Noah L. Meyerhans writes:
> In the case of the latest iputils package, it is ss010824.
I assume 'ss' means 'snapshot'. You should use a version of the form
20010824, and ask upstream to change.
If a 'normal' version number is anticipated soon, and you want to be
able to switch without using an e
On 26-Sep-2001 Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
> Lintian gives errors when looking at a package with letters at the
> beginning of the upstream version number. Ch. 4 of policy indicates
> that the upstream version can't begin with a letter. However, it
> doesn't really indicate what should be done in c
Previously Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
> However, it doesn't really indicate what should be done in case an upstream
> version does begin with letters.
It shouldn't. Try prefixing it with a 0 or so.
Wichert.
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/ Nothing i
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Sep 26, Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Are there any problems I missed with cimply copying the files?
> Yes: people do not want to restart bind at every configuration changes.
good point.
> >Mount -bind is no option, hardlinks aren't
Lintian gives errors when looking at a package with letters at the
beginning of the upstream version number. Ch. 4 of policy indicates
that the upstream version can't begin with a letter. However, it
doesn't really indicate what should be done in case an upstream version
does begin with letters.
On Sep 26, Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Are there any problems I missed with cimply copying the files?
Yes: people do not want to restart bind at every configuration changes.
>Mount -bind is no option, hardlinks aren't either. Symlinks from
mount --bind is the right solution for
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 08:42:18PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
> I can understand your argument for reassigning the bugs and in
> principle I agree with it. My only objection is that people would have
> to check http://bugs.debian.org/ftp.debian.org instaed of
> http://bugs.debian.org/wn
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> As with account creation for New Maintainers, inclusion of an
> uploaded package with an ITP bug against it is the "final stage" in
> the realization of the new package. We don't have fully fledged new
> developers until their accounts are cre
On 25-Sep-01, 22:59 (CDT), Anthony Towns wrote:
> and filing, what, a dozen new bugs against ftp.debian.org every week is
> something other than harassment [0]?
How is it harrasment? It's a todo list. And won't the bug be closed
automatically when the package is installed? So it's hardly any ex
On 26-Sep-2001 Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 25-Sep-01, 17:56 (CDT), Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> a) you declare a relation on a package more than once i.e. Depends:
>> foo, foo (<< 2.0). Note this check assumes that '|' relations are
>> sane, so Depends: foo | bar | baz, foo i
Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 25-Sep-01, 17:56 (CDT), Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > a) you declare a relation on a package more than once i.e. Depends:
> > foo, foo (<< 2.0). Note this check assumes that '|' relations are
> > sane, so Depends: foo | bar | baz, foo is ok.
>
>
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 06:35:16PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> I know this problem, and I filed a bug on it, but it was not
> reproducible, when the environment _before_ running startx has
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I assumed that the Xserver behaves correctly and
Hmm, I use gdm to log in. Will try w
Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 04:54:29PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> > Rather than making it to be reassigned to something else,
> > it might be better to retitle it to make it look
> >
> > "ITP-uploaded: package - description"
> >
> > and still assigned to wnpp.
>
> >
On 01-09-26 Roberto Suarez Soto wrote:
> On Sep/26/2001, Christian Kurz wrote:
> > > I think that maybe he refers to the fact that, for example, you may
> > > have formatted your ext2 partitions so they are incompatible with 2.0.x
> > Well, I once heared about this, but never read an explanation
On 01-09-26 Riku Voipio wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 04:34:31PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote:
> > On 01-09-25 Steve Greenland wrote:
> > > I am so tired of hearing things like this. Nobody is forcing anyone to
> > > do anything. We already "force" them to use 2.2 instead of still using
> > > 2.0
On 25-Sep-01, 17:56 (CDT), Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> a) you declare a relation on a package more than once i.e. Depends:
> foo, foo (<< 2.0). Note this check assumes that '|' relations are
> sane, so Depends: foo | bar | baz, foo is ok.
How is that sane? I'm parsing that as
#include
Michael Meskes wrote on Tue Sep 25, 2001 um 08:16:35PM:
> Sorry you misunderstood me. I was able to get the Euro symbol but I have to
> run xmodmap every time I start X by hand. It should be run automatically and
> in fact it is, but the result is somehow overwritten again. BTW this is
>
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 04:54:29PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> Rather than making it to be reassigned to something else,
> it might be better to retitle it to make it look
>
> "ITP-uploaded: package - description"
>
> or
>
> "Uploaded: package - description"
>
> and still assigned to wnpp.
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 02:33:04AM -0500, Scott Dier wrote:
> * Anthony Towns [010925 22:59]:
> > Why, btw, are you uploading a NEW package with the maintainer set to -qa,
> > especially when -qa has already asked for the package to be removed from
>
> It's absouletly horrid code to look at and h
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 10:54:43AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 09:53:26AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> >However, the more people are involved, the more coordination has to
> >be done.
>
> And considering we're all antisocial disobliging SoBs, this is a fatal flaw
> At this time being, there's no official XFS kernel images nor patches in
Debian, however there is xfsprogs as far as I know in Woody & Sid. I am
willing to work on an XFS kernel floppy boot disk, but it would be pointless
cine a kernel image with XFS is bloated by about 300K if I'm not mistaken,
On 25-Sep-01, 09:34 (CDT), Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 01-09-25 Steve Greenland wrote:
> > I am so tired of hearing things like this. Nobody is forcing anyone to
> > do anything. We already "force" them to use 2.2 instead of still using
> > 2.0. You want the functionality, you u
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 09:48:42PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> "Oliver Elphick" immo vero scripsit
> > And what does this mean?
> > out of date on ia64: libssl-dev, libssl0.9.6, openssl (from
> > 0.9.6b-1)
> > there are up to date bins in ia64 also
>
> There is a vers
"Oliver Elphick" immo vero scripsit
> And what does this mean?
> out of date on ia64: libssl-dev, libssl0.9.6, openssl (from
> 0.9.6b-1)
> there are up to date bins in ia64 also
There is a version of the package built on ia64, which
has not yet been uploaded.
Which co
Wajig is a simplified command line interface to many of the typical
Debian administration tasks, including package management and
configuration, and daemon control. It is essentially a collection of
"tricks of the Debian trade" packaged up into one python
program. Underneath it uses apt-get, dpkg,
There are a lot of packages waiting on openssl to move into testing.
The latest excuses says:
openssl 0.9.6b-2 (currently 0.9.6a-3) (standard) (non-US) (high)
Maintainer: Christoph Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
openssl uploaded 7 days ago, out of date by 5 days!
Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit
> who the hell has to do more work, if we add *support* for
> *automaticly* running bind9 in chroot jail if the kernel
> supports --bind mounts?
By the way, are we talking about running bind as non-root
inside a chroot, or
are we talking about
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Roberto Suarez Soto wrote:
> On Sep/26/2001, Christian Kurz wrote:
>
> > > I think that maybe he refers to the fact that, for example, you may
> > > have formatted your ext2 partitions so they are incompatible with 2.0.x
> > Well, I once heared about this, but never read an
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 04:34:31PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote:
> On 01-09-25 Steve Greenland wrote:
> > I am so tired of hearing things like this. Nobody is forcing anyone to
> > do anything. We already "force" them to use 2.2 instead of still using
> > 2.0. You want the functionality, you use the
On Sep/26/2001, Christian Kurz wrote:
> > I think that maybe he refers to the fact that, for example, you may
> > have formatted your ext2 partitions so they are incompatible with 2.0.x
> Well, I once heared about this, but never read an explanation what
> exactly causes the differences in the
Title: 웹디자이너의 꿈
> It's the immediate logout issue, I believe. I've been having the same
> problem for half a year now, to no avail. There's other people struggling
> too if you search on Google.
did you check that the database for horde was properly created ?
see if /var/lib/mysql/horde (don't know where to look
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Christian Kurz wrote:
> > > and would instead suggestion to modify the documents stating that all
> > > config files should be in /etc to make a exception for $CHROOT.
>
> >
> > NEVER. This is not some low-grade distribution where you can go around
> > scattering configurati
On 01-09-25 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Christian Kurz wrote:
> > On 01-09-24 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > > On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Christian Kurz wrote:
> > > > Hm, that doesn't make much sense too me. I think the best thing would be
> > > > to have /etc/bind
On 01-09-25 Roberto Suarez Soto wrote:
> On Sep/25/2001, Christian Kurz wrote:
> > Were exactly do we force them? Which debian packages do not work well
> > with a 2.0.x kernel?
> I think that maybe he refers to the fact that, for example, you may
> have formatted your ext2 partitions so
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The bug was quickly closed by one of the FTP admins:
Be happy, you got a reply...
--
Marcelo | - "There have been...accidents." - "What kind of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | accidents?" - "The kind of accidents you prefer to
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 04:11:10PM +0900, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
> mail.*/var/log/mail.log
>
> mail.info -/var/log/mail.info
> mail.warn -/var/log/mail.warn
> mail.err /var/log/mail.err
AFAICT the first on
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 02:01:05AM +, Sulaiman Alhasawi wrote:
> > Also, I recommend you to maintain Arab web pages, documents, and
> > other translations for Debian. Please refer
> > http://www.debian.org/international/ for detail.
>
> Sure . Thats what im interested in and thats why im here
On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 11:21:07PM +0200, NORMAND Jacques wrote:
> > where can I find the descriptions of the official debian subsection which
> > can be specified in the Section field of the control file?
> > I need something similar to the /usr/share/tasksel/debian-tasks.desc file
> > which descr
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 09:53:26AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
>However, the more people are involved, the more coordination has to
>be done.
And considering we're all antisocial disobliging SoBs, this is a fatal flaw ;>
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2. That which causes joy or happiness.
* Steve Greenland
| I am so tired of hearing things like this. Nobody is forcing anyone to
| do anything. We already "force" them to use 2.2 instead of still using
| 2.0. You want the functionality, you use the right tools. You want to
| stick with 2.2, then *you* deal with the issues. The mainta
* Christian Kurz
| On 01-09-25 Steve Greenland wrote:
|
| > I am so tired of hearing things like this. Nobody is forcing anyone to
| > do anything. We already "force" them to use 2.2 instead of still using
| > 2.0. You want the functionality, you use the right tools. You want to
|
| Were exactly
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 10:23:34PM -0700, David wrote:
> At this time being, there's no official XFS kernel images nor patches
> in Debian, however there is xfsprogs as far as I know in Woody & Sid. I am
> willing to work on an XFS kernel floppy boot disk, but it would be pointless
> cine
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 01:04:12PM -0500, Taral wrote:
> All the task-* packages seem to be missing from the main Packages file!
> Where did they go?
the dumpster.
> P.S. If this was announced, perhaps the announcement should have gone to
> the debian-devel-announce list?
its been discussed in v
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit
> When a package that has been ITP'ed is finally packaged, I'd like to
> suggest that it be reassigned to ftp.debian.org. The package changelog
> can and should still use "Closes: #", so that the bug is
> closed automatically, but this way i
* Aaron Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010925 22:43]:
> > Thats not really fair now is it! Branden is trying to make the
> > procedure better if his suggestions are wrong how about making
> > constructive criticism.
> Tell that to James Troup.
Perhaps next time let him make the comment instead.
--
* Anthony Towns [010925 22:59]:
> Why, btw, are you uploading a NEW package with the maintainer set to -qa,
> especially when -qa has already asked for the package to be removed from
It's absouletly horrid code to look at and has a locking scheme I wish
not to overhaul to get into the fnctl, then
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 01:13:26AM -0500, Scott Dier wrote:
> I got sick of how nasty IMP was getting and moved to squirrelmail
> recently. I dont think theres a package out there yet, nor do I know of a
> tool to move IMP database-driven address books to squirrelmail's format
> (yet).
http://bu
I got sick of how nasty IMP was getting and moved to squirrelmail
recently. I dont think theres a package out there yet, nor do I know of
a tool to move IMP database-driven address books to squirrelmail's
format (yet).
* Ilia Lobsanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010926 00:14]:
> It's the immediate logo
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, David wrote:
> At this time being, there's no official XFS kernel images nor
> patches in Debian, however there is xfsprogs as far as I know in Woody
> & Sid. I am willing to work on an XFS kernel floppy boot disk, but it
> would be pointless cine a kernel image with XF
At this time being, there's no official XFS kernel images nor patches
in Debian, however there is xfsprogs as far as I know in Woody & Sid. I am
willing to work on an XFS kernel floppy boot disk, but it would be pointless
cine a kernel image with XFS is bloated by about 300K if I'm not
It's the immediate logout issue, I believe. I've been having the same
problem for half a year now, to no avail. There's other people struggling
too if you search on Google.
blah...
ilia.
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